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46% of Muslims in the U.S. think criticism of Islam should be criminalized
Jihad Watch ^ | October 31, 2012

Posted on 11/01/2012 2:30:03 PM PDT by NYer

And 40% think that Muslims here should not be governed by the Constitution, but by Sharia. Does this really surprise anyone? Why should Muslims in the U.S. hold different beliefs from Muslims elsewhere?

"Guess who U.S. Muslims are voting for," by Bob Unruh for WND, October 31:

Nearly half of 600 Muslim-American citizens polled who plan to vote in the 2012 presidential election believe parodies of Muhammad should be prosecuted criminally in the U.S., and one in eight say the offense is so serious violators should face the death penalty.

The results came in a groundbreaking scientific poll for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies. It was taken Oct. 22-26 and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 3.98 percentage points.

The poll also found 40 percent of Muslims in America believe they should not be judged by U.S. law and the Constitution, but by Shariah standards.

And the big winner among Muslim-Americans in the presidential election is Barack Obama, the poll found. More than 72 percent said they are definitely supporting Obama, and another 8.5 percent are leaning that direction. Only 11 percent are for Romney....

“Almost half of those Muslims surveyed – an astonishing 46 percent – said they believe those Americans who offer criticism or parodies of Islam should face criminal charges,” said pollster Fritz Wenzel in an analysis of the survey’s results.

“Even more shocking: One in eight respondents said they think those Americans who criticize or parody Islam should face the death penalty, while another nine percent said they were unsure on the question,” he said.

Wenzel said even the 9 percent “undecided” on that particular question is alarming.

“Seldom in survey research does a response of ‘not sure’ carry such significance, but the response to this question certainly is a surprise, given the severity of the question, and offers insight into the conflict that some Muslims appear to face in making the ideals under-girding American society fit into their religious lifestyle,” he said.

Wenzel’s poll said 7.2 percent of the respondents said they “strongly agree” with the idea of execution for those who parody Islam, and another 4.3 percent said they somewhat agree.

While 80 percent said that they somewhat or strongly disagree with the idea, when those who said they were not sure are added, one in five Muslims across America cannot say they believe Christians or others who criticize Muhammad should be spared the death penalty.

More Muslim women (10.4 percent) than Muslim men (4.9 percent) said they strongly agree with the idea, while 12.4 percent of the women and 7.1 percent of the men were uncertain about the issue involving Muhammad.

Four in 10 said Muslims in America should not be judged by U.S. law and the Constitution, but by Islamic Shariah law.

“A much smaller percentage said they think the U.S. should establish an entirely separate court system to adjudicate matters involving Muslims,” Wenzel said.

While the respondents overwhelmingly lean toward the Democratic Party and like the direction Barack Obama, who repeatedly has praised Islam around the world, is leading this nation, they also have a fundamental conflict with American life, expressing objections to the freedom of speech and religion guaranteed in the Constitution.

American Muslims, Wenzel said, “show signs of ambivalence toward the U.S. Constitution generally and the First Amendment specifically.”

“These survey findings show a community in conflict with the foundations of our nation, as many Muslims favor and enjoy the freedoms offered by the U.S. Constitution, including participation in elections here, but at the same time significant percentages want to be treated differently than the average non-Muslim when it comes to legal matters,” he said.

“While 39 percent of Muslims said they believe existing U.S. courts should consult Shariah law when adjudicating cases involving Muslims, a plurality of 45 percent said they do not agree with this idea. Asked if the U.S. should establish separate courts based solely on Shariah law to adjudicate cases involving Muslim, 21 percent said it should. Two-thirds of respondents – 66 percent – said that separate courts are not necessary to adjudicate Muslims.”

While 9 of 10 of the Muslim respondents said they agree with the First Amendment, they are also in conflict with it, Wenzel said, citing evidence in answers to “another question in the survey which found that one-third of Muslims – 32 percent – believe Shariah should be the supreme law of the land in the United States,” Wenzel said.

“Another shocking finding from the survey is how Muslims view the religious freedoms of Christians. Asked whether U.S. citizens who are Christians have the right to evangelize Muslims to consider other faiths, just 30 percent agreed Christians have such a right. Another 42 percent said they do not have such a right, while 28 percent said they were unsure on the question.”

One in five say Muslim men should be allowed to follow their religion in America and have more than one wife, and 58 percent said criticism of their religion or of Muhammad should not be allowed under the Constitution.

While 43 percent said they disagreed with the idea of Christians evangelizing Muslims, another 27 percent said they were undecided. Only 19 percent said they “strongly agree” with the idea that Americans have a right to invite Muslims to consider another faith.

Nearly one in three said Israel either has no right to exist or they were uncertain whether it does.

Robert Spencer, author of “Stealth Jihad” and “Did Muhammad Ever Exist?,” told WND the survey is a “disquieting indication that Muslims in the U.S. support Shariah blasphemy laws and want to bring them to the U.S.”

“This should not surprise anyone,” he said. “There is no reason to believe that Muslims in the U.S. believe in a different form of Islam from that which prevails everywhere else. But it underscores the need for Americans to defend, forthrightly and without apology, the freedom of speech, as it is increasingly embattled today, and to revive and enact anti-Shariah laws nationwide.”

Spencer has authored 12 books on Islam and has led seminars about jihad for the United States Central Command, United States Army Command, the FBI, the Joint Terrorism Task Force and others.

Pamela Geller, author of ”Stop the Islamization of America” and a WND columnist, said: “Restrictions on free speech are part of Shariah. This poll does nothing but show that Muslims in this country adhere to Shariah in large numbers. What is surprising is that the percentage of those who oppose free speech isn’t higher. But probably many of the respondents already know better than to say what they really think to non-Muslim pollsters.”...



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: culturaljihad; islam; muslims; sharia; shariah; softjihad; stealthjihad
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1 posted on 11/01/2012 2:30:09 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

....and 85% of AMERICANS don’t give a rats petunia what any muslims “think”


2 posted on 11/01/2012 2:32:07 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: NYer

Well, isn’t that just too damned bad. Excuse my language. Good grief!


3 posted on 11/01/2012 2:32:39 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: NYer

46% of Muslims in the U.S. think criticism of Islam should be criminalized-—Well f@ck them too.


4 posted on 11/01/2012 2:32:41 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: NYer

Which is why a muslim is not, will not and CANNOT be American.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 2:32:47 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: NYer

99% of Native US citizens think mohammedites should return to where they came from.


6 posted on 11/01/2012 2:32:53 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: NYer

May piss be upon them.


7 posted on 11/01/2012 2:32:56 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: NYer

And we just keep letting them in as if they were normal, reasonable, people seeking freedom and opportunity.


8 posted on 11/01/2012 2:33:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: NYer

Yet Muslim immigration continues to grow, and will continue to grow so long as we allow chain migration, and have the absurd Diversity Visa program, and allow refugee populations from places like Somalia.

In this, the GOP and Democrats are equal villains.


9 posted on 11/01/2012 2:34:25 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: NYer

A separate court to ajudicate muslims? Ok

We will get a catholic priest to preside.

Criticize chrisianity. ...die.

How do you like them apples


10 posted on 11/01/2012 2:35:02 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: NYer

Get rid of the muslims.

Everywhere.


11 posted on 11/01/2012 2:35:41 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: NYer

Muslims don’t want to be governed by nor protected by the Constitution, fine! Let’s criminalize all muslim criticism of Jews. They’ll get the free speech point real fast!


12 posted on 11/01/2012 2:35:57 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: NYer

What about the 60 percent of Americans that think
Islam should be criminalized?


13 posted on 11/01/2012 2:36:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NYer

It’s time to kick ‘em all out before it’s too late.
Their choice should be to go to a concentration camp or LEAVE.
We are AT WAR with Islam.
Pure and simple.


14 posted on 11/01/2012 2:38:55 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: NYer

I have just signed a bill that bans islam...the bombing begins in five minutes.


15 posted on 11/01/2012 2:39:08 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: NYer

For 1400 years Islam has advocated murdering infidels..
NOT for what they believe BUT for WHO they(YOU) are..

And will continue advocating that until ALL MUSLIMS cease to exist...

The ONLY way to stop Muslims murdering people is to get rid of all muslims..
Not only that BUT Mohahaad advocated murdering muslims IF they rejected Islam..

If YOU tolerate Islam you tolerate MURDER of non muslims..
Its as simple as that.. PROOF: 1400 years of in your face proof..
Islam has ALWAYS murdered non muslims even illegally in non muslim countrys..

**INFIDEL = YOU...


16 posted on 11/01/2012 2:40:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: knarf

Certainly looks that way!


17 posted on 11/01/2012 2:40:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: barmag25

if only


18 posted on 11/01/2012 2:40:51 PM PDT by surrey
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To: NYer

islam is the Borg. It can only be defeated and exterminated or surrendered to and I’m not surrendering.

BTW, there ain’t no Seven of Nine in islam.


19 posted on 11/01/2012 2:41:15 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: NYer

The prophet is a pedophile. Now come and arrest me and see what happens.


20 posted on 11/01/2012 2:41:58 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (I advocate indentured servitude for the 47% until the national debt is eliminated.)
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To: NYer

             

21 posted on 11/01/2012 2:42:05 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Aetius

Probably the same Somolians being bussed in to vote dem in Ohio.


22 posted on 11/01/2012 2:42:06 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: knarf
Which is why a muslim is not, will not and CANNOT be American.

Excellent response! I've have more than enough islam already and I just don't see the appeal.

They apparently hate all the best stuff: God, women, dogs, bacon, freedom, liberty, etc...nope, I just don't get it, don't want it and will fight against it.

23 posted on 11/01/2012 2:43:19 PM PDT by GBA (Vote as if your Freedom depended on it...)
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To: NYer
Message to this nation's moslems....that clown you worship,”Moe”-something-or-other,fornicated with pigs when he wasn’t fornicating with young boys.
24 posted on 11/01/2012 2:43:19 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: NYer
To paraphrase the warden from Cool Hand Luke:

"What we have here......is a failure to acculturate."

25 posted on 11/01/2012 2:44:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: NYer

The U.S. should pass a law to criminalize Islam.

The “nation” of Islam should be declared the world’s number one enemy.


26 posted on 11/01/2012 2:45:31 PM PDT by adorno
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To: NYer
What a coinky-dink! 46% of non-Muslims think Islam should be criminalized.
27 posted on 11/01/2012 2:45:38 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: NYer

And I believe ALL practicing Muslims should be expelled from the United States.

But the socialist Dem’s have been building this demographic super electorate for 50 years through immigration and government dependency, and it looks like they will soon have their permanent majority.

Short of reshaping our society through Christian revival, does anyone see a way out?


28 posted on 11/01/2012 2:46:47 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: NYer

How about they all go back where they came from instead of coming here and spreading hate and Christophobia and Judeophobia.


29 posted on 11/01/2012 2:47:11 PM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: NYer

This is why Americans MUST exercise our free speech, while we still have it.


30 posted on 11/01/2012 2:49:19 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: NYer
46% of Muslims in the U.S. think criticism of Islam should be criminalized
And you know what the Muslims think the penalty should be... throw acid in the face, chop-off the hands, set on fire, catapult into the desert and then shoot the nearest little girl in the head.
31 posted on 11/01/2012 2:50:05 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (WINNING IS EVERYTHING!)
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To: NYer

But it is still okay to blaspheme Christ and to persecute Christians????


32 posted on 11/01/2012 2:50:34 PM PDT by magdalen
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To: NYer

That from the ideology of death and destruction cleverly disguised as a religion.


33 posted on 11/01/2012 2:50:58 PM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: Cyber Liberty

” 46% of non-Muslims think Islam should be criminalized. “

More like 86%


34 posted on 11/01/2012 2:51:05 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: Minutemen

“99% of Native US citizens think mohammedites should return to where they came from.”

No, not the 47% for Obama.


35 posted on 11/01/2012 2:52:24 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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Big deal. MileHi thinks 46% of Muslims should be neutralized. And not just in the US.

Looks like we have what you call your irreconcilable differences.

36 posted on 11/01/2012 2:53:26 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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As I have said before, Islam is not consistent with our Constitution or our culture. Unlike ALL other major religions, Islam is inherently seditious and a threat to our Constitution. Therefore, it should not receive protections under freedom of religion.

No other organized body of people posing a threat to our Constitution has been permitted exist in our country. Vastly smaller paramilitary or separatist groups have been routinely squashed out of existence. Islam, which poses an infinitely greater threat, should be treated no differently.

Muslims who are US citizens should be asked to sign oaths of allegience to the US and our Constitution and, upon discovery of open support for Shariah law, support (financial or otherwise) for radical Islam causes or groups, or participation in anti-US demonstrations or rallies, should be stripped of their citizenship and deported, or, depending on the circumstances, punished as if they had committed treason. Practicing Muslims should NOT be allowed to immigrate into the US, only out of the US.. This issue is just that serious. Ignoring it is NOT an option


37 posted on 11/01/2012 2:53:39 PM PDT by RatRipper (RE Obama: Romney just can't beat the lying, commie SOB bad enough to suit me. . . .)
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Photobucket This is my new "Meme". I just invented it. Whenever I give the "Thumbs up" I am making fun of and ridiculing the Prophet Muhammad. Whenever anybody in the world does this they are making fun of the Prophet Muhammed.
38 posted on 11/01/2012 2:54:18 PM PDT by 12chachacha
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To: Doogle

I care about what they think. I care so much that I want to see them deported.


39 posted on 11/01/2012 2:55:54 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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I wave at all you Muslims...with my left hand!
I lift my feet and proudly display the bottom to all you Muslims!
I do not recognize Muhammed as any deity!
I do not accept nor believe Sharia law has any more validity than the contents of a septic tank!
I do not recognize Islam/Muslim as a socially acceptable members of OUR society!


40 posted on 11/01/2012 2:56:51 PM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: tomkat

Heh, heh, when Sir Winston held up two fingers with the palm inward, he was flipping the bird, British style.

And we know what Churchill thought about the ROPers.


41 posted on 11/01/2012 2:56:50 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Free speech is more important than Islam.")
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To: South Dakota

interesting idea. might be easier to simply prohibit moslems from entering the country.


42 posted on 11/01/2012 2:58:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NYer

47% of the people in this country are idiots.


43 posted on 11/01/2012 2:58:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To former friends and relatives. Don't ever contact me if you still support obama.)
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To: NYer

Islam should be treated as a criminal enterprise, banned, and prosecuted.


44 posted on 11/01/2012 3:00:33 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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Though nobody has done a poll of Americans, I wonder...

“How many Americans think Islam should be criminalized?”

It’s simple, really, and what much of the rest of the world already does with religions that it does not accept as compatible with their nation.

The courts have long recognized that the Bill of Rights is not universal. Free speech can be restrained if it is creates a public menace or threat, among many other restrictions.

Likewise, the US has no obligation to accept the practices of a religion that are contrary to our freedoms and liberties. We easily outlaw religious murder, human sacrifice and cannibalism, so why not outlaw those parts of Islam that are repulsive as well?

Yes, you can freely practice your religion, but you cannot incite violence, threaten others, call for the overthrow of our form of government, reject the legal authority of our courts, criminally abuse others, to include women and children, you cannot oppress other religious faiths or lack thereof, to engage in polygamy, to have sex with or marry children below the legal age, etc.

If Muslims can steadfastly obey these rules, then they can live in America and practice their religion in peace. If they cannot, then any time they violate these rules, they must be punished, and if they will not stop violating these rules, they are free to leave America.


45 posted on 11/01/2012 3:06:14 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: NYer

75% of Americans believe Muslims should be shipped back to wherever the hell they came from.


46 posted on 11/01/2012 3:07:33 PM PDT by Venturer
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If all the religions, in all the world, throughout all time could crap up a turd, it would be Islam.


47 posted on 11/01/2012 3:12:25 PM PDT by pallis
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Islam sucks.

It literally has nothing about it which redeems it.

Only someone with brain damage would convert to it.

48 posted on 11/01/2012 3:12:40 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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I’d like to give the extremist muzzies a bacon-wrapped jalapeno and then tell them to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine, next roughly escort them to a B52 bomb bay door, strap ‘em in tightly, have the bomber fly over their land of origin, open the bomb bay doors, and let them out without a parachute.

Oops, guess I’ve seen too many B-rated action/adventure movies...


49 posted on 11/01/2012 3:15:37 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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50 posted on 11/01/2012 3:19:47 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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