Posted on 11/01/2012 1:49:19 PM PDT by topher
Joining the chorus of Roman Catholic clergy in Illinois criticizing President Barack Obama before next week's election, Peoria Bishop Daniel Jenky ordered priests to read a letter to parishioners on Sunday before the presidential election, explaining that politicians who support abortion rights also reject Jesus.
"By virtue of your vow of obedience to me as your Bishop, I require that this letter be personally read by each celebrating priest at each Weekend Mass," Jenky wrote in a letter circulated to clergy in the Catholic Diocese of Peoria.
In the letter, Jenky cautions parishioners that Obama and a majority of U.S. senators will not reconsider the mandate that would require employers, including religious groups, to provide free birth control coverage in their health care plans. "This assault upon our religious freedom is simply without precedent in the American political and legal system," Jenky wrote.
"Today, Catholic politicians, bureaucrats, and their electoral supporters who callously enable the destruction of innocent human life in the womb also thereby reject Jesus as their Lord," Jenky added. "They are objectively guilty of grave sin."
Will this offset bloomberg’s endorsement of Obama ?
I have heard estimates that over 50 percent of Catholic bishops voted for Obama in 2008.
I really like this Bp. Jenky.
Peoria Catholic bishop assails Obama on abortion
Artlcle has following subtitle (which is interesting):
Letter to parishioners is similar to pre-election statements issued by Springfield and Rockford dioceses
I have heard estimates that over 50 percent of Catholic bishops voted for Obama in 2008.
Source please?
Not Cardinal George. I don’t think this Bishop would have.
And it sounds, from the subtitle of the article in the Chicago Tribune on this, that the Bishops of Rockford and Springfield did not vote for him...
Good for him, if he actually mentions Obama by name. I think that’s necessary, so parishioners can’t pretend to themselves that they don’t know which candidate is pro-abortion.
The GOP platform is strongly pro-life, but the politicians on the national level barely mention the subject. McCain never brought it up, and neither has Romney to any great extent. And of course the press covers for Obama. All people are told is that he is “pro women.”
I don’t think Bp Jenky did!
Will this action actually influence the election?
Bam-Bam has been running ads on Washington, DC television stations with multiple sound clips of Romney saying that he wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned, and wants to de-fund Planned Parenthood ... followed by "I'm Barack 0bama, and I approved this message."
They're the best pro-Romney ads I have ever seen.
What level within the Church does it take to ex-communicate these bastards? Just do it already.
I had a head-to-head dealing with Bishop DiLorenzo, very revealing. I’ll tell you about it if you like.
What the Bishop wrote in the letter follows:
Today, Catholic politicians, bureaucrats, and their electoral supporters who callously enable the destruction of innocent human life in the womb also thereby reject Jesus as their Lord. They are objectively guilty of grave sin. For those who hope for salvation, no political loyalty can ever take precedence over loyalty to the Lord Jesus Christ and to his Gospel of Life. God is not mocked, and as the Bible clearly teaches, after this passing instant of life on earth, God’s great mercy in time will give way to God’s perfect judgment in eternity.
Link to the letter:
Provide a verifiable link or cram it
If he’s not interested, I am.
And I’d bet other FReepers are as well.
Bloomberg’s might, as well as Christie’s. what did Obama promise them?
Problem is, regardless of who is running the ads and for what purpose, Romney has no intention whatsoever to lift a finger to overturn Roe v Wade, homo marriage, open homo military, or anything else “That is already done”. As Ryan says, “Let’s move on”. Anyone voting for R-R expecting any of that to happen is going to be severely disappointed.
Huh...I know Dan Jenky...Notre Dame, Holy Cross guy, used to be the rector of Dillon Hall.
Pretty much what I said on another thread.
If they do it again it will mean that they will endorse late term abortion and same-sex-marriage.
Not a very good example to their flock.
B16 and Higher Up may frown on that.
>> Romney has no intention whatsoever to lift a finger to overturn Roe v Wade, homo marriage, open homo military, or anything else “That is already done”. As Ryan says, “Let’s move on”. Anyone voting for R-R expecting any of that to happen is going to be severely disappointed.
Four more years of Obama will not reverse any of these. Chances are, they will gain ground as he presses for gay marriage in 50 states, unlimited taxpayer-funded abortions right up until the moment of birth, and a military where gays prey on straights.
R-R will stop the advance of the gay/baby killer agenda and just might put Americans back to work and give us some energy independence that puts us in control of our future again. Maybe they’ll even give us the backbone and morals to tell the gays and baby-killers that enough is enough and then start rolling back their advances of the last 4 years.
Love to Freepmail me is you like.
I have heard estimates that 5% of the American public would like to be a fire truck.
See my response.
That's really funny! I was just thinking that the GOPe and the Romney campaign don't want to stress that he is pro-life, for fear of offending people. And that Obama doesn't want to, either, for fear of persuading people to vote for Romney. . . . But evidently the latter is not true.
When my son was a wee tyke he wanted to grow up to be a garbage truck.
Chilling? It would be to me.
Perhaps he thought it would be a resume enhancement?
And that answers the perennial question. “What has 4 wheels and flies”
And that answers the perennial question. “What has 4 wheels and flies”
Jenky rocks!
Aren’t these guys late to the party? Where were they all these years when Democrat politicians like the Kennedys were spouting their nonsense about being against abortion personally, but supporting it politically. That, btw, is a creepy position to take. It means you think abortion is murder, but it should not be banned.
Another reason to hate this butt hole
Until Obamacare, the web site of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops bragged about having worked for socialism for a hundred years.
It’s still embarrassing with its politically correct laundry list:
You should have called the St. Joseph Foundation in San Antonio and asked them to assist you in making a formal complaint to the Vatican. Bishops do NOT have a free hand to slander their flock. As in any court of law, of course, you need documentation, but if somebody was willing to certify a letter stating what they told you the Bishop had said about you, plus other witnesses certifying what you said and when that got you in trouble with him in the first place, that would be pretty convincing in Rome.
I've heard more politics from the pulpit in the past 3 months than in my entire 45 years. Last week, Father came "this close" to calling out Obama and our state Congressional people by name.
If only, going forward, they would make it a common practice to give those types of strong, decisive, Church-in-the-modern-world homilies -- you know, much like the dreaded, monthly "contemporary music" Mass. Had they been doing that for the past 25 years, we wouldn't be in the predicament we're in.
Ironic how Father John Jenkins (CSC), president of Notre Dame, and Bishop Dan Jenky (CSC) have similar names but very different views on Obama.
Maybe Father John Jenkins (CSC) has fired up the rest of the CSC congregation because of the scandal he caused at Notre Dame (having so many Catholics and Christians oppose the honor given Obama there).
With the name similarity, one might confuse the two...
Please don't be a fu## head. I challenge assertions on this board - I do not insult people. You several that have may learn from that. I have heard (rumor, not verified) estimates (projections, speculations) that over 50 percent of Catholic bishops voted for Obama in 2008.
Let's analyze my assertion. Many Catholic bishops have advocated for statism, for federal dollars to go to their causes. Many Catholic bishops are okay with sanctuary for illegal immigrants.
I can't believe the bishops are that much more grounded in reality and rationality that some would not see the "history" in the 2008 Obama election and the erasure of race as a factor in society and all of that tripe. And I certainly can't see that when a big majority of Catholics voted for Obama in 2008 that there were not a similar number of votes from the bishops.
I am not insulting Catholics. I am marveling at the fact of the letter to be read at mass. I am grateful for it.
With regard to the gal who was so humiliated at Mass, that vicar subscribes to the liberalist fantasy that there is no free speech in (Catholic) churches, especially wr to abortion. We had a legal advisor to one of the Bishops speak at Missouri Catholic Conference in 2004 try to say that the word “abortion” cannot be spoken in a church or church facility. Turns out the room was full of pro-life attorneys, some with far better credentials than he had, and they (politely) ate him alive.
That said, the liar lawyers don't give up. In 2008, another attorney in church employment sent a letter to all the Catholic clergy in the state, to the same effect: don't mention anything remotely political or about abortion, and don't allow any parking lot literature from Right to Life or ELSE. He didn't sign it, but foolishly put his personal contact information on it. Found a copy and gave it to the Bishops. He lost his job.
They STILL don't give up, however. Now there's a statement on MCC’s website that claims non-profit organizations can't endorse a political position and that includes church (public access) parking lots. Jeez, there must be tens of thousands of nonprofits advocating political positions. What the liberals really mean is that they don't want Christians to advocate Christian positions, especially on moral issues. They just can't say what they mean.
I don't know who the "XX% of Catholics voted for Obama" posts that are present on any Catholic thread are supposed to move (well, yeah, I do), but I don't see the profit in them.
If you are concerned about Bishops sho vote for Obama, or push immigration "tolerance," or other social justice agendas, take it up with them. This conservative Catholic knows all too well and is tired of the implied slander.
I am not Catholic. My daughter and her family are. I did not accuse ANY FR Catholics of voting socialist. Goodness, I would so like people to read what I say instead of infer what I might mean. I'm trying to help for goodness sake.
You are very much like the leftist who changes the subject. I implied no slander. That is all on you. I love my daughter and her church.
I once posted (well-meaning) on the Catholic thread. I was trashed and deleted. I get more of the same here. Are conservative Catholics more intolerant than leftist Catholics? Can some of you see this?
What were you trying to accomplish?
The fact is that every thread involving Catholics and politics has numerous posts stating that X% of Catholic lay/clergy voted for put-your-leftist-cause/candidate-here.
Because it's safe to say that FR Catholics aren't part of that percentage, I guess I just don't get the purpose of those posts. No one's bothered to ever enlighten me on it, so I'll have to persist in my ignorance.
I’ve heard that you talk out of your dirt chute.
Damn you A.A. Cunningham. Damn you! You’ve heard nothing. It sounds as though you will hear nothing. You certainly can’t read.
Hello Mod. Expel me if I’m out of order but I’m effing tired of this ad hominem trash in response to a carefully phrased opinion.
If these are members of the FR Catholic Caucus making these hits on me then the caucus should be ashamed, ashamed!
I’ve been here 14 years. I spent time and money to get GWB reelected in 2004. I fought many hours hopelessly in 2008 to try to elect John McCain. I am here for Mitt Romney.
I donate monthly to FR. If you trolls want me to leave over this nonsense I will.
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