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Bill Spadea Sees Mitt Winning One For The Gipper
Conservative HQ ^ | November, 1, 2012 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 11/01/2012 12:58:31 PM PDT by mick

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To: TChris

You have played some typical mormon dishonesty games of pretending that temples are open to everyone because of things like allowing visitors when a new one is built, and before it becomes official, and of allowing some exceptions such as the young standing in for dead people being baptized.

This is from the official church site.

Being Worthy to Enter the Temple:

“”We are not expected to be perfect to enter the temple. Rather, the purpose of the things we learn and the covenants we make in the temple is to help perfect us. We must, however, be worthy to enter.

A temple recommend signifies that we have been found worthy through an interview with a member of our bishopric or our branch president and also an interview with a member of our stake presidency or mission presidency. Temple recommend interviews are opportunities for us to examine our worthiness. In each of the interviews, our priesthood leaders will ask us about our personal conduct and faith. Our priesthood leaders keep these interviews private and confidential.

If our priesthood leaders find that we are worthy to enter the temple, we will receive a temple recommend. We sign our recommend to confirm our worthiness to enter the temple. Our priesthood leaders also sign our recommend as additional witnesses of our worthiness. This recommend allows us to enter the temple for the next two years, provided we remain worthy.””


21 posted on 11/01/2012 5:21:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: okie01

I don’t know if you have ever posted anything of substance, but that post was strange.

You made a silly personal attack and said that I was wrong about almost everything, but you never revealed anything that I am wrong about, or why you would even make such a childish, hostile post that said nothing about anything.


22 posted on 11/01/2012 5:32:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: mick
Our friend Bill Spadea, a frequent guest on New York City area Fox affiliates, who knows politics as a candidate and as the Bush campaign’s national youth director, has an interesting take on what a Mitt Romney victory would mean.

Um, should be pointed out that Spadea was George HW Bush's national youth director ...

Bill’s take is that a Mitt Romney administration will take up where Reagan left off, unlike the three other Republican administrations that have been elected since Reagan left office.

Ok, Reagan was President #40, right? GHWB was #41. Clinton was #42 and GWB was #43. Obama is #44. That math doesn't add up - four Presidents since Reagan, two Republican, two Democrat. Where's the third (missing) Republican Administration?
23 posted on 11/01/2012 5:42:36 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Each term is an administration. There have been three republican terms since Reagan.


24 posted on 11/01/2012 5:47:33 PM PDT by damper99
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To: TChris

This is from the official Mormon site and tells us why Ann’s parents were forbidden to witness their daughter’s Mormon marriage, they could not enter the Temple, just as a regular, non temple Mormon could not.

Who can attend the temple ceremony?
“”Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who have a current temple recommend may be invited as guests to a sealing ceremony in the temple. A temple recommend is a small card that demonstrates they have interviewed with the appropriate priesthood leaders and been found worthy to enter the House of the Lord. Wedding couples are asked to keep those guests to a relatively small number, primarily immediate family and a few close friends; this allows the service to remain reverent and sacred.””

“No photographs allowed”

Do you have a temple recommend? Will you link us to the exact wording of that marriage ceremony?


25 posted on 11/01/2012 5:52:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: ansel12
You are who you are, ansel.

And we love you anyway...

26 posted on 11/01/2012 5:54:31 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: tanknetter

Correct on Bill serving Bush #1.

And I think Vigerie was counting each 4 year term as one. So that would be 3 Administrations.


27 posted on 11/01/2012 5:57:03 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: okie01

“We” at FR don’t much care for posters that do nothing but personalize their posting here, you seem to be carrying some personal baggage to this thread, since the thread topic and the posts don’t interest you at all.


28 posted on 11/01/2012 6:10:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: ansel12
Mitt Romney was one of those, Mitt left the republican party because of Reagan and the right wing, not returning to the GOP until October of 1993, after having become a democrat supporter and fund raiser, and voter.

Ronald Reagan was once a democrat.

29 posted on 11/01/2012 10:53:36 PM PDT by Slyfox
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Good Lord man, you compare Reagan voting for his last democrat presidential candidate in 1948 with Mitt Romney leaving the GOP because of Reagan 30 years later, and voting democrat and fund raising for democrats in the 1990s?

Do you really not see the difference in eras of American history and the post Vietnam, post Roe v Wade, Reagan Revolution decades of the post 1960s?


30 posted on 11/01/2012 11:11:43 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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No, but Reagan did vote a pro-choice bill as governor, and later regretted that vote.

Don't be so critical of Romney. He made a fantastic choice in Ryan as VP. That alone should prove that there are some secret conservative sinews inside the old Mittster.

31 posted on 11/01/2012 11:16:40 PM PDT by Slyfox
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Do you think that the lifelong pro-abortion Romney, hated Reagan’s conservative politics and left the GOP in 1979, because the lifelong pro-life Reagan, signed that bill in 1967?

That is a silly attempt at an explanation, you know very well that Romney hates conservatism because he is liberal, he had to choose someone to balance the ticket.

The liberal Romney chose someone who is conservative, and the conservative Reagan, had to choose the Romney of his time.


32 posted on 11/01/2012 11:43:31 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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OK, that's all fine. I already said that you have to live your religion to qualify to enter the temple. Yes, you need to tithe as part of that. Temples are built using tithing funds, so it's expected of those who will use them.

It's just not such a jaw-dropping pile of astonishment as you're trying to turn it into.

"Regular Mormons" are making the grade all the time. It doesn't take a huge stretch.

33 posted on 11/02/2012 9:21:27 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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Mormons cannot become Gods if they don’t pay the required percentage of the money they make.

Temples are only for those elites. Regular Mormons are not allowed.

You said that the Temples are not places of secrets and elites, that they were open to everyone and nothing was secret about them.

That means that this video is nothing special, so all of us can watch it, even you, whether you are qualified for the temple or not.

BEHIND THE VEIL: Never-Before-Seen Footage of Secret Mormon Temple Rituals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udew9axmdM&feature=player_embedded


34 posted on 11/02/2012 9:54:04 AM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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To: ansel12

Hey, since you’re just making stuff up anyway. Knock yourself out.


35 posted on 11/02/2012 1:37:51 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

Care to be specific about what was “made-up”?

Do you recommend the video for everyone?


36 posted on 11/02/2012 2:03:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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Do you recommend the video for everyone?

What you've chosen to do with the sacred practices of others is on your head, FRiend. Don't try and tie me to it.

37 posted on 11/02/2012 3:14:38 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

You have been telling us that the temples are open to everyone, that they are not privileged, that there are no secrets, they are not for the elites who pay the mandatory tithe to conduct secret ceremonies in, even from the eyes of fellow, lessor, Mormons.

From your posts, there can’t be anything wrong with people learning all about Temple ceremonies, the words, the costumes, the Oaths, the purposes.

All I asked, was “Do you recommend the video for everyone?”


38 posted on 11/02/2012 3:49:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Vote, but don't pretend.)
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