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New York Times: Will Climate (Change) Get Some Respect Now?
New York Times ^ | October 31, 2012 | Nicholas D. Kristof

Posted on 11/01/2012 3:45:20 AM PDT by Zakeet

President Obama and Mitt Romney seemed determined not to discuss climate change in this campaign. So thanks to Hurricane Sandy for forcing the issue: Isn’t it time to talk not only about weather, but also about climate?

It’s true, of course, that no single storm or drought can be attributed to climate change. Atlantic hurricanes in the Northeast go way back, as the catastrophic “snow hurricane” of 1804 attests. But many scientists believe that rising carbon emissions could make extreme weather — like Sandy — more likely.

“You can’t say any one single event is reflective of climate change,” William Solecki, the co-chairman of the New York City Panel on Climate Change, told me. “But it’s illustrative of the conditions and events and scenarios that we expect with climate change.”

In that sense, whatever its causes, Sandy offers a window into the way ahead.

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I was schooled in the far-reaching changes under way several years ago by Eskimos in Alaska, who told me of their amazement at seeing changes in their Arctic village — from melting permafrost to robins (for which their Inupiat language has no word), and even a (shivering) porcupine. If we can’t see that something extraordinary is going on in the world around us, we’re in trouble.

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“For the extreme hot weather of the recent past, there is virtually no explanation other than climate change,” James E. Hansen, a NASA climate scientist, recently wrote in The Washington Post.

Politicians have dropped the ball, but so have those of us in the news business. The number of articles about climate change fell by 41 percent from 2009 to 2011, according to DailyClimate.org.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; environment; globalwarming; sandy
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You right wing nuts should quit your hateful agenda of denying the obvious ... cause I learned that we need a carbon tax from the Eskimos in Alaska when they showed me a shivering porcupine ... and if you can't see that something extraordinary is going on in the world around us, then we're in trouble!

1 posted on 11/01/2012 3:45:26 AM PDT by Zakeet
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You can’t say any one single event is reflective of climate change,” William Solecki, the co-chairman of the New York City Panel on Climate Change, told me.

Well, there's your answer right there.

So shut up about it.

2 posted on 11/01/2012 3:48:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Zakeet

Yea, let’s talk about the cold front from the North that stalled Sandy and drove the storm inland.


3 posted on 11/01/2012 3:50:51 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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To: Zakeet

I just released some methane into the atmosphere.


4 posted on 11/01/2012 3:51:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zakeet

The only respect climate change will get is from Al Gore who is trying desperately to recoup millions of dollars he invested in this hoax. This global warming scam has been debunked by so many scientists and meteorologists that the few left who believe it look like idiots. And most who support it have some kind of monetary reason to keep perpetuating the hoax.


5 posted on 11/01/2012 3:54:12 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: central_va

I SO believe in climate change. Yesterday I didn’t have to wear a coat; today I did. Freaky.


6 posted on 11/01/2012 3:54:22 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Zakeet

Liberals, please do your fair share to end climate change: stop breathing.


7 posted on 11/01/2012 3:54:26 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Zakeet

Nope no respect for Climate Change Liars here!

Mel


8 posted on 11/01/2012 3:54:46 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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Respect in that all of the scamming vermin in the organized crime syndicate called globull warming are prosecuted and jailed for the largest hoax to ever be perpetrated on Humans... respecting the rope they use to hang them with... or 4 inch steel cable in fat al gore's case.

LLS

9 posted on 11/01/2012 4:00:38 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: Zakeet
“For the extreme hot weather of the recent past, there is virtually no explanation other than climate change,” James E. Hansen, a NASA climate scientist, recently wrote in The Washington Post.

Whenever Jim Hansen, a political hack, talks about "climate" change, he really means man-caused climate change, specious reasoning.

Yes, there is and will continue to be climate change on Earth, Mars, Venus, and other planets in our solar system. The cause of climate change is the Sun.

Other than foolish and scientifically illiterate politicians and hacks like Hansen who want to blame mankind, there is no real, meaningful evidence that mankind is a factor in natural climate change. Look outside, the only greenhouse gas is water vapor in the form of clouds. The connection between carbon dioxide and weather change cannot be made because there is none, except by alchemists.

10 posted on 11/01/2012 4:02:50 AM PDT by olezip
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To: central_va

Ah Ha! So you are the one!


11 posted on 11/01/2012 4:03:11 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Zakeet

If climate change was real, we should expect extended summers and shorter winters.

It hasn’t happened. There is no anthropogenic factor that drives climate on earth big enough to have a global impact.

No - what liberals do in supporting this scam is to take away our freedoms - to dress as we want, live as we want, work where want and vacation where they want.

Its not about protecting the environment; that’s merely a cover for our lives being under the thumb of benevolent commissars and bureaucrats.

A free country doesn’t need more central planning and regimentation from Washington; it needs more personal choice and freedom.

Now you know why Nicholas Kristof wants Big Government to keep tabs on us.


12 posted on 11/01/2012 4:03:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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>> I was schooled in the far-reaching changes under way several years ago by Eskimos in Alaska, who told me of their amazement at seeing changes in their Arctic village — from melting permafrost to robins (for which their Inupiat language has no word), and even a (shivering) porcupine. If we can’t see that something extraordinary is going on in the world around us, we’re in trouble.

“Proving” theories by anecdote instead of experiment is not doing science. At least not in *my* universe — maybe in Manhattan that’s how it works.


13 posted on 11/01/2012 4:05:13 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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Get ready, people. If Romney wins, “climate change”, the homeless, and a bunch of other stuff is going to make a HUGE comeback in the news.


14 posted on 11/01/2012 4:07:50 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Zakeet
Folks here in New Jersey are comparing Hurricane Sandy to the destruction left by the Great Atlantic Hurricane of 1944 (this was before they named these storms). Did people back in 1944 blame hurricanes on "climate change," too?

I came across an interesting item when doing some research this morning. Hurricane Irene was apparently the first hurricane to make landfall in New Jersey since 1903. I didn't believe this at first, but apparently every other major storm since then either made landfall after declining to a tropical storm or made landfall elsewhere while causing widespread damage in New Jersey.

Does anyone think the jack@sses at the New York Times will mention this sort of thing?

15 posted on 11/01/2012 4:16:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: central_va

“I just released some methane into the atmosphere.”

Was it SBD? (silent but deadly)


16 posted on 11/01/2012 4:17:27 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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The funny thing is, if you go to Wikipedia’s current page on Ice Ages, the latest effect on climate attributed to Mankind is... We’ve forestalled the next period of glaciation. (You know, Chicago under a mile of ice, maybe a few thousand humans left alive on the planet...)

Seems like a good thing to me!


17 posted on 11/01/2012 4:23:35 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Alberta's Child
Correction there ... that's Hurricane Sandy, not Irene. Irene had weakened to a tropical storm by the time it reached New Jersey in 2011.
18 posted on 11/01/2012 4:32:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Zakeet
You can’t say any one single event is reflective of climate change ... it’s illustrative of the conditions and events and scenarios that we expect with climate change.

Ahhhhh, a bit of reality juxtaposed with smooth spin. He is right, no single storm indicates any kind of long term tend. However, they are still basing all of their " the sky is falling" sales pitch on computer models, not reality. Models aren't reality, especially when you take them outside their nominal inputs. In other words, when you try to use them to be predictive of situations with input well beyond any known input set. Then you have absolutely no real world data to anchor them too, no way at all of verifying their behavior. Trust me, grin, I'm involved professionally with large scale complex computer models every day, I know their usefulness and their limitations. Oh, and to make the gw, crowd's argument even more ludicrous, we now know they have been fudging, falsifying, and cherry-picking their data - this by their own admission in that series of emails that came out. I would have thought anyone and everyone would be too embarrassed to associate themselves with the dead-horse of gw. Guess maybe they are trolling, seeing if there is any life (ie money) left in it...

19 posted on 11/01/2012 4:33:43 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Zakeet

Isn’t it time for lefty network reporters and execs to stop buying houses on the water-front?

Hypocrites all.


20 posted on 11/01/2012 4:36:40 AM PDT by cgbg (No bailouts for New York and California. Let them eat debt.)
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