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Early briefings on Libya strike focused on Al Qaeda, before story changed
Fox News via PatDollard.com ^ | 10/29/12

Posted on 10/29/2012 3:51:00 PM PDT by JihadiKiller

FYI, Catherine Herridge is the reporter who has been busting this whole story wide-open from the beginning. So far, she has the best inside sources actually willing to talk. She’s the one who first reported that the admin 3 times denied a rescue team for the ambassador…

Excerpted from Catherine Herridge’s report today in Fox News: Two days after the deadly Libya terror attack, representatives of the FBI and National Counterterrorism Center gave Capitol Hill briefings in which they said the evidence supported an Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda-affiliated attack, Fox News has learned.

The description of the attack by those in the Sept. 13 briefings stands in stark contrast to the now controversial briefing on Capitol Hill by CIA Director David Petraeus the following day — and raises even more questions about why Petraeus described the attack as tied to a demonstration.

Fox News is told that Petraeus seemed wedded to the narrative that the attack was linked to a demonstration and was spontaneous as opposed to pre-meditated.

Fox News is told that Petraeus was “absolute” in his description with few, if any, caveats. As lawmakers learned more about the attack, including through raw intelligence reports, they were “angry, disappointed and frustrated” that the CIA director had not provided a more complete picture of the available intelligence.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazicoverup; benghazigate; coverup; libya; petraeus; shadowwars; threatmatrix
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1 posted on 10/29/2012 3:51:01 PM PDT by JihadiKiller
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To: JihadiKiller

that is very disappointing


2 posted on 10/29/2012 3:54:40 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Extremely disappointing. But the point is, if you decide to serve an immoral master, you will eventually find yourself in a situation where your morality is going to be tested.

I hope things are not as they appear.


3 posted on 10/29/2012 3:57:33 PM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: JihadiKiller

I’ll give Petraeus the benefit of the doubt for now, because he is a hero for his job in Iraq.

Obama is a creep that doesn’t deserve any leeway, and is IMO far more likely to be behind all of this.


4 posted on 10/29/2012 3:59:42 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: JihadiKiller

Obama Admin. Was Likely Running Arms To Islamic Jihadists Through Benghazi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJuXspuWkC4


5 posted on 10/29/2012 3:59:46 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: yldstrk

Maybe the CIA planned the whole YouTube video diversion and Nokoula-whatever-his-name-is is part of a massive psy-ops effort to trick — not to fool Americans per se but... uh... er... well, I don’t know why they’d do that actually... Ahem.


6 posted on 10/29/2012 4:00:34 PM PDT by Publius Maximus (It was a nice Republic, while it lasted.)
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To: JihadiKiller
Who gives a crap HOW it started? That's totally irrelevant and a diversion from the security draw-down beforehand and the fact that the U.S. military did not respond to a terrorist attack on our Ambassador on our property.

The 0bama regime condemning and JAILING a film maker in America as their top priority stinks to high heaven and does lend credence to 'false flag' theories.

7 posted on 10/29/2012 4:00:58 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Shadow44

Obama’s not behind this; he’s just the mouthpiece, the teleprompter reader.

The barbarians on the other end of his BlackBerry are behind it.


8 posted on 10/29/2012 4:01:16 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: JihadiKiller

Amazing


9 posted on 10/29/2012 4:02:52 PM PDT by mgist
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To: rlmorel

A willing suspension of disbelief?


10 posted on 10/29/2012 4:03:47 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: yldstrk
that is very disappointing

I suppose. But once you sell out your country for political gain you are finished as a hero. RIP the Petraeus we thought we knew.

BTW, is FR broke are is it in the garage for repairs? I've never seen it this slow on just an average day. Something is wrong.

11 posted on 10/29/2012 4:04:09 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: JihadiKiller

Also posted on my profile page.

12 posted on 10/29/2012 4:06:21 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: JihadiKiller
I don't want to believe this General had anything to do with this treasonous coverup. This article (emphatically denies) he or the CIA were part of Obama's and Hilliary's treachery. Obama never steps up the plate as a leader....he is a born follower, leaning hard towards the cowardly side. He blows a loud horn but the notes are truly sour....impeach the little basta**!
13 posted on 10/29/2012 4:07:33 PM PDT by yoe (Vote for the Real American whose love for his country has NEVER been in question.)
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To: rlmorel

Sice roberts... I no longer trust anyone until they have proved themselves trustworthy. I hope the General is clean but there are few excuses to cover this situation. We shall see.

LLS


14 posted on 10/29/2012 4:08:15 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: JihadiKiller
I don't want to believe this General had anything to do with this treasonous coverup. This article (emphatically denies) he or the CIA were part of Obama's and Hilliary's treachery. Obama never steps up the plate as a leader....he is a born follower, leaning hard towards the cowardly side. He blows a loud horn but the notes are truly sour....impeach the little basta**!
15 posted on 10/29/2012 4:08:43 PM PDT by yoe (Vote for the Real American whose love for his country has NEVER been in question.)
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To: JihadiKiller

so Petraeus didn’t betray the left...he betrayed US


16 posted on 10/29/2012 4:09:34 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Lorianne
Impeach obama ... open the wasps nest up, spill the cart, create the biggest noise.

I don't want him to even SEE the election.

17 posted on 10/29/2012 4:10:27 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: yldstrk
"that is very disappointing"

As it has been and ever more shall be.


18 posted on 10/29/2012 4:10:52 PM PDT by I see my hands (On the other hand.. dictators don't lose elections.)
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To: yoe

The General should stand up and defend our country. Where is his voice and why is he silent.

I have heard him speak before and he definitely has the platform - Why so silent General?

You sleep with bugs, you are going to get bit.


19 posted on 10/29/2012 4:11:18 PM PDT by Dacula
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To: onyx; FReepers; All

Please Support Free Republic.

We're Voting the Marxist OUT!

20 posted on 10/29/2012 4:11:19 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=om93destr)
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To: rlmorel

It’s pretty sad then the only heroes in all of this were the ones who deviated from their superior’s actions.


21 posted on 10/29/2012 4:12:20 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: JihadiKiller

The RinoCratic DC Oligarchs would prefer We the People , their employers, behave as We the Peons and Peasants ...and just shut up and let them do as they damn well please!!!!


22 posted on 10/29/2012 4:12:44 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: DuncanWaring

And who do you think are the barbarians on Obama’s blackberry? I have my own thoughts on the likes of Soros, the Saudis, the Rothchilds(yes them), Putin and many Europeans we kept from going down the tubes after WWII. Our exceptionalism has gathered many wannabes; only problem is all these want us to be like them at their disposal.


23 posted on 10/29/2012 4:13:29 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: JihadiKiller

I agree with all who have used the term disappointing. This is an absolute shot to the gut. When I saw the general was standing by the video-protest scenario, I was speechless. None of it made any sense. I always feel when someone acts in an unexplainable way, there is some sort of blackmail involved. The Chicago Way is to know all things at all points in time. Well, come what may to whomever. This isn’t going away.


24 posted on 10/29/2012 4:18:03 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (2016 looms)
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To: JihadiKiller

CIA Director + CIA assets and Operatives = Petraeus knew and probably devised the gun running scheme (or worse).


25 posted on 10/29/2012 4:19:44 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: JihadiKiller

I’d say that it is fairly easy to determine that General Petraeus was certainly involved with what happened as well as the cover up.

The simple fact that he has not resigned in order to preserve his honor indicates that he has none.

If I was an employee of this administration, I would not stand for this treasonous crap for one second.

Not one second.

The general is guilty of treaosn just like all the rest, put him in front of a military tribual and try him for high treason, just like every other slithering snake in this administration.


26 posted on 10/29/2012 4:20:56 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: JihadiKiller
This was discussed in great detail on FR on Friday evening, when Patraeus denied that the CIA recommended against military intervention. FNC news stories going back to mid/late September have the GOP angrily -- and incredulously -- cross-examining Patraeus in the Intel Committee.

While the Committee leaks came from a Democrat Congressman from MD and are therefore certainly suspect, GOP Congressmen have had more than a month to come forward and say "Wait, that's not what the DCI said." To date they have not come forward. Friday is the first time Patraeus has broken his silence since mid-September.

I think even a very charitable person has to assume he was part of the initial cover-up.

27 posted on 10/29/2012 4:20:56 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Now, slow response time on FR, yeah, that depresses me...)
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To: JihadiKiller

Forget Benghazi for a minute. Read THE ILLINOIS PAY TO PLAY blog. No, it’s not mine. Benghazi was just a small piece of the puzzle. Obama and Hillary may have been setting the Middle East on fire to make money for themselves and their Democrat buddies by rebuilding it after they set it on fire. They’re like arsonists who own the home furnishing store in town. They set a fire to sell the homeowner some new furniture. That’s the big story. That’s Crimes Against Humanity Nuremberg Trials stuff!


28 posted on 10/29/2012 4:22:19 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rlmorel

“If you dance with the Devil, the Devil doesn’t change. The Devil changes you.”


29 posted on 10/29/2012 4:23:59 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Dacula

We know how the thugs from Chicago and Arkansas work....he’s probably been threatened.


30 posted on 10/29/2012 4:24:41 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Zer0 Fiddled While Tyrone Burned. Impeachment NOW! !!)
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To: JihadiKiller

Another thing that is really disappointing is that FR probably would have had over 400 responses to this thread a few years ago. Not anymore, this place cannot support the eager patriots that wish to respond to various threads.

Election night, make extra plans elsewhere. Around here? you will never be able to participate.

Very sad, this was a very wonderful place.


31 posted on 10/29/2012 4:26:44 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Mygirlsmom

Then the General is less an honorable man than Tyrone Woods who gave his life in order to save over 30 AMERICAN lives.


32 posted on 10/29/2012 4:33:23 PM PDT by Dacula
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To: JihadiKiller
I'm sorry to hear this. I have wanted to believe that Petraeus might be one of the good guys, but if this is true he's not what he appeared to be, at least not any longer.

Dance with the devil...

33 posted on 10/29/2012 4:33:25 PM PDT by GBA (Vote as if your Freedom depended on it...)
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To: Shadow44

Petraeus is no hero.
He is a PhD in international relations.
So of course, he fully supports the evil rules of engagement in Afghanistan. His rules have denied grunts in Afghanistan artillery or close air support.
Men have died, screaming for support and had it denied.
Men have died, inside their own compounds where they were not allowed to carry rifles, gunned down by the Muslims hired to guard them.
In Iraq, he is a supporter of FBI showing up and conducting interviews after firefights and prosecuting soldiers and marines.
Petraeus was fine with making grunts in a combat zone have a day of indoctrination about how to be nice to homos.
Petraeus makes our men handle a Koran with gloves.
And now,,, he knows the full truth about what happened, and is doing a Kabuki dance, giving us half truths. A half truth is a full lie.

He is no stranger to refusing fire support for political reasons, so Libya was nothing new to him. No need to admire Petraeus as far as im concerned. He’s just another McCrystol or Wesley Clark, or Dempsey. A turd to be flushed.

Schwartzkopf was our last real General. We may never have another that isn’t a marathon running, laptop carrying, tee-totaling, homo supporting abstainer from manhood, pussy that is indistinguishable from the average corporate evecutive at GE or GS.


34 posted on 10/29/2012 4:33:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Shadow44
I’ll give Petraeus the benefit of the doubt for now, because he is a hero for his job in Iraq.

I always gave him the benefit of the doubt. As the mom of a solider who served in the 101st AB under Petraeus, I was mistaken. That's all I'm going to say here.

35 posted on 10/29/2012 4:33:58 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Shadow44
I’ll give Petraeus the benefit of the doubt for now, because he is a hero for his job in Iraq.

Benedict Arnold comes to mind when you say that.

Of course it could be that the CIA simply is incapable of doing any job whatsoever, since we never seem to know anything.

36 posted on 10/29/2012 4:35:56 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any enemy that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

he’s probably been threatened.....
I think they have something on him.


37 posted on 10/29/2012 4:37:17 PM PDT by pugmama
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To: JihadiKiller

Another general officer who has sold his soul to Obozo, forgetting his obligation to his country and those serving it.
Shameful....


38 posted on 10/29/2012 4:38:24 PM PDT by matginzac (Nici)
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To: yoe

second accounts rarely erase the first story, especially when the second account is issued to deny the first story line was ever spoken.


39 posted on 10/29/2012 4:39:44 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any enemy that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable.)
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To: JihadiKiller

I hope Catherine Herridge has very good security. Jennifer Griffin too. they’re likely to need it.


40 posted on 10/29/2012 4:40:41 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: JihadiKiller

I hope Catherine Herridge has very good security. Jennifer Griffin too. They’re likely to need it.


41 posted on 10/29/2012 4:40:47 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: JihadiKiller
We don't know anything about what's going on behind the scenes. Petraeus might be doing all he can to defend America from the monster that is Obama.

Or he might be someone who has turned (but that seems out of character).

Either way...all we have is vapid speculation.

We should focus of what we can establish with some degree of certainty. What is going on with Petraeus is beyond our understanding at this point.

42 posted on 10/29/2012 4:41:02 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: SE Mom
I always gave him the benefit of the doubt. As the mom of a solider who served in the 101st AB under Petraeus, I was mistaken. That's all I'm going to say here.

I did (too), and I was (as well).

Mr. niteowl77

43 posted on 10/29/2012 4:47:25 PM PDT by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: DesertRhino

As they say in East Tennessee,

“Y’all can’t get the water to clear up,
Until you get the turd out of the creek.”


44 posted on 10/29/2012 4:49:24 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: pugmama

“he’s probably been threatened.....
I think they have something on him.”

I think it’s more likely that he thinks things were done right. It fits with everything he’s done. But lets say they have something on him and are threatening him. The Bible says “the truth will set you free”.

So he stands up, and says, “here is the bad thing i did. I did it, and am guilty. But now the administration wants me to lie. I was threatened by david axelrod that if i didnt do “X”, they would expose me.”

We can’t ask him to risk that, but he can ask better men than him to risk and lose THEIR lives? He’s a conspirator or a coward. There is no other option.


45 posted on 10/29/2012 4:51:51 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: rlmorel

If you live with the Political Devil (Obama), you will die with the Devil. Both Obama & Petraeous are finished politically, both “Traitors” to the USA, our public servants and our military. “TREASON is the word i am looking for!!!”


46 posted on 10/29/2012 4:53:58 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: rlmorel

I agree, man. Petraeus was our very best commander in Iraq. Let’s hope he hasn’t become Marshall Ney.


47 posted on 10/29/2012 4:54:51 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: FredZarguna; DesertRhino; SE Mom
This is a lengthy, but worthwhile article by Andrew McCarthy from 2010 which delves into the mindset of Petraeus on Israei (and thus Islam). Petraeus’s Israel Problem; His policy is to turn our back on a staunch ally.

Petraeus sees Islam vs the west differently than most conservatives. The idea that the attack was because something (the video) provoked the Muslims to do it, fits into his worldview of Islam vs. the west. I think Petraeus twisted the facts to include the video because it fit his preconceived idea of what caused the terrorists to attack us (our ambassador et al). IOW, they were reacting to something we iniated. He is blind to the truth, IMO.
48 posted on 10/29/2012 4:55:41 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Red_Devil 232

that comparison is an insult to turds.


49 posted on 10/29/2012 4:57:29 PM PDT by uncitizen (Arrest him for treason today!)
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To: JihadiKiller

I will give Petraus the benefit of the doubt. I cannot imagine a man of his background and character doing anything that is not in the interest of the personnel under his command. Will wait for confirmation/updates.


50 posted on 10/29/2012 4:59:21 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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