Posted on 10/24/2012 11:06:35 PM PDT by Arthurio
EVAN MCMORRIS-SANTORO OCTOBER 24, 2012, 11:01 PM 8102
If Mitt Romney was hoping the Richard Mourdock story he’s deeply entwined in would go away fast, he apparently didn’t get the memo to one of his top surrogates.
Just as Democrats and the Obama campaign began amping up their effort to highlight Romney’s ties to Mourdock after the Indiana Senate candidate uttered his claim that pregnancies caused by rape are “something that God intended to happen” — and Romney and the Republicans worked to put the moment behind them — John McCain sat down with CNN to throw a wrench in the Republican effort.
Last week, McCain was in Indiana campaigning for Mourdock, who won the Republican nomination by beating the man McCain backed, veteran Sen. Richard Lugar.
Asked if he’s still backing Mourdock following his rape comments Wednesday, McCain instead backed far away from him.
“It depends on what he does. I think it depends on what he does,” McCain said. McCain said that “if he apologizes and says he misspoke and he was wrong and he asks the people to forgive him,” the Arizona Senator would get behind him again.
Both the DSCC and the Obama campaign sent the clip to reporters Wednesday night:
McCain’s response to Mourdock is markedly different from Romney’s as well as many of the other national Republicans who stood behind him as the story unfolded today. Romney, who’s starring in a statewide ad campaign on Mourdock’s behalf, repudiated Mourdock’s comments but promised to stick by him and declined to call on Mourdock to take the TV ads off the air.
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Heh. My SWAG at the 0.01% might be about right. Justice survey awhile back said about 200,000 rapes in a year. Another study shows chance of pregnancy at 3 to 5 %. Call it 5%, so 10,000 rape pregnancies (I imagine “rape” includes incest?). Say 1 million abortions - and it is 0.01% (Of course I just checked that 1 million, and it is more like 1.4 million. :( Per year.
Our preacher just had a good sermon on our Sovereign God that as he talked about it, it made sense. Of course I’ve forgotten the main point now!
But that God IS sovereign, in spite of the sin and bad things that happen. And he also made the point that SOMEtimes, but not usually, God does cause bad things to happen to people if it will make them turn back to Him in the long run). Things like the Babylonian captivity.
But usually, the bad things that happen to us are either other people’s sin, our sin, are stupidity, or acts of nature. BUT - through it all - God is still Sovereign.
Herman Cain is replacing Boortz.
Your view is of God as a cruel puppet master and the rejection of free will and the consequences thereof. God intends for us to be righteous and blessed.
In your view, God must also intend for abortions to take place since nothing occurs by accident.
Of course God is sovereign.
But that does not mean that God wills sin or evil. Or that God intends sin.
To say that God intends for someone to rape someone is just plain wrong.
God’s sovereignty means that good can come about when someone (the sinner or someone else) does GOOD in the face of someone other than God doing evil.
God
does
not
do
evil
or will evil or intend evil.
Evil is done by men and angels in disobedience to God.
Rape is evil.
Repeat after me, Mourdock you idiot, rape is evil.
The sovereignty of God in the face of evil done by men is a difficult teaching to explain to non-believers.
A politician like Dummb Mourdock would be far wiser to stick to the fundamental justice issues involved in the gotcha question.
The child conceived in the wake of a rape is innocent. Killing that child is unjust. The rapist is the evildoer and the rapist must be punished. The child is innocent.
That’s reasoning any person, Christian, Jew, Muslim, secularist can understand. Some may argue with it, resist it but it is defensible and communicable.
Leave the question of God’ sovereignty aside when asked about the rape and incest “exceptions.”
Just leave it aside, Mourdock. There is absolutely nothing to be gained for your good prolife intentions by venturing into the theology of God’s sovereignty and the question of evil.
Stick with
Child innocent.
Rapist guilty.
Child good. Rapist bad.
It’s not rocket science, stupid Mourdock.
You’ll have other chances to witness for your faith in God’s sovereignty. And before you do that on occasions when it actually serves God’s will to engage in theological discussion of God’s sovereignty, for God’s sake, stupid Mourdock, get your theology about God’s freedom and human freedom, God’s permissive will and God’s active willing,
get
it
straight.
No one disputes his freedom to say it.
I dispute his intelligence. He has a stupid theology and he’s even stupider in terms of political prudence.
No one is robbing him of his religious freedom so why should others be robbed of their fundamental freedom of expression regarding a man who wants to be their representative? A "religious belief" is no free pass; it's not as if you wouldn't criticize those politicians who express a religious view in support of homosexual marriage for example.
Correction that’s Herman Cain not Michael Cain
Excellent. Would that someone who the MSM run to for comment on this subject could nail it to eloquently.
Nor should Romney if he wins the election. McCain will lead the RINOs in opposing the kind of pull out by the roots changes we need across the executive branch.
Just as I don’t care whether a pro-abortion politician “personally” opposes abortion, I don’t care whether a pro-life politician gets his convictions from the Pope, or “prayer,” or “the Lord,” or “my heart,” or whatever. They can’t seem to resist talking about their private religious views, or prayer, or their reading of Scripture, and every time they do it, the baby-killers have a field day painting them as theocrats and wackos.
Hanoi John still committing treason against the USA...doing everything possible to keep that Socialist for another 4 years in the White House
LLS
What YOU said....
SAD but very true. I will NEVER, EVER, EVER forgive McLaim for two things. For his allowing his own staff to trash Sarah Palin and secondly for him saying “you have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency”. Well - we're living it and YOU betcha I live in fear along with millions of others here in this great nation because of Obama’s presidency - or fake. This man has done more to harm this nation from within than any enemy from without.
Vote R/R on Nov. 6 and get everyone you know to vote R/R also.
A scorpion approached a frog by the side of a stream and asked if the frog could give him a ride to the other side. The frog said "No! If I let you near me you'll sting me and I'll die!" The scorpion said "No, if you die I will drown because I cannot swim". The frog considered this and decided it made sense so he let the scorpion onto his back. About halfway across the stream the scorpion stung the frog. As the frog began to die and both were sinking to certain death the frog asked "But why?!". The scorpion replied "I can't help it, it's my nature."
Here we are, a couple of weeks before an election and the country is at stake. We are perched on the back of the GOP frog, hoping to get across safely but McCain just has to sting, it's his nature to attack the GOP.
Acts 2:23 combined with the Old Testament prophecies and Jesus’ own words concerning His death and resurrection (Matthew 16:21), leaves no doubt that the crucifixion didn’t just happen. It was planned by God.
Does that mean that God bears all responsibility, and those who actually were instrumental in the rejection and crucifixion of Jesus are not guilty? Not at all. Jesus came to the earth to die in our place and thereby purchase redemption for us. That was His plan. But He didn’t force anyone to fulfill it.
His ministry and message placed Him in direct opposition with the devil and his followers. Their hatred for Jesus caused them, of their own free will, to crucify Jesus.
God, in all His wisdom, simply knew what man would do, and He determined to use their rejection of His Son to accomplish His will. He NEVER controls our will to accomplish His Will. We freely obey or freely not obey. God didn't make us robots. Love doesn't control. God is all Love.
..."Who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth". 1 Tim 2:4
Will everyone be saved? NO!
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to DESTRUCTION, and MANY enter through it". But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to LIFE, and only a FEW find it". Matthew 7:13,14
God wants all to be saved; yet MANY will not be through their own free will.
Do you lock your doors at night? Why? Seems you are trying to preventing God's Will from happening. Do you take aspirin or any meds? Why? Do you pray for the sick? Why?
According to your way of thinking God wants someone to rob/kill you and HE wants you sick. YET you are going against His will to try and prevent it? Now why would such a 'well informed good Christian' go against His Will?
See how that teaching will make one take no responsibility for their own actions and give cover for satan? See how twisted that teaching is? Do you resist satan as God tell us to? According to your thinking, you can't, after all, satan's doing God's will. That is truly fork tongue teaching!
God created us in His image and likeness and homos say God made them that way. Just like you saying God created satan. God created LUCIFER not satan. Get to know the difference!
So much for your 'Historic Christianity'. It's not even Christian but perverted teaching meant to deceive. But according to your teaching God wants us deceived. Now where would that teaching come from as GOD clearly warns us satan has come to kill, rob and destroy and satan is the Father of Lies/Deception.
“The sovereignty of God in the face of evil done by men is a difficult teaching to explain to non-believers.”
Heck - it is hard for believers to understand too! (At least for me.) That is why a non-believer’s question of “so why did your mom live and your dad die if God was watching over them” (for instance) is a hard one - and another “gotcha” question for so many people.
McCain, the Democrats’ favorite Republican. He’s probably jealous of the fact that Romney’s so far done better as a candidate than he did in 2008.
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