Posted on 10/24/2012 9:38:38 AM PDT by Altariel
There is a time and place for everything. Many a would be politician has torpedoed his chances because he can’t say what he means so that the enemamedia can’t distort it and use it against him.
Why do you think this question was asked?
I agree, although I also recognize that the media can distort ANYTHING.
Knowing that, it is our job to make sure they don’t get away with it - not to blame our people for having the audacity to be up-front rather than tiptoeing around the abusive drunken husband (media) all the time. Sure, don’t do stuff you know is going to anger the abusive jerk, but when just living your life is provocation enough for him, we become enablers of the abuse if we blame the person who didn’t tiptoe gingerly enough in the opinion of the abuser.
And I really do believe that the abusive husband analogy is an apt portrayal of the media and the dysfunction that surrounds the media. We act like the media is God - all-powerful. We sacrifice our children, our principles, and everything else to appease that abusive husband - and blame anybody who doesn’t accept the abuser’s rules/threats/manipulation. The pathology is incredibly similar.
Why do you think this question was asked?
NO I DO NOT AGREE WITH BEING 'DEFENSIVE' ABOUT WHAT HE SAID, BECAUSE THE NEXT THING IS....
WE WILL BE COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN ABOUT WHAT WILL BE 'TOLERABLE' TO SAY ABOUT ABORTION!
Why do you think this question was asked?
Raped women would be less willing to choose to kill the child if they understood that the child is not a monster and her life is not ruined by the child’s life. Which is what Mourdock is saying. Why such resistance to that simple truth?
GOP candidates should do themselves a favor and repeat Romney’s talking points, even then they would actually sound better.
Media questions are always asked in order to trip up a conservative candidate and get fodder for distortion. I don’t contest that and I see your point about not unnecessarily giving them that fodder.
But at what point does wisdom become slavery? Have you ever been in an abusive situation? Do you recognize the comparison I’ve made - where the fear of abuse controls a person’s life? When the media takes a statement and blows it into something it never was - and then the rest of us pile on the person, blaming THEM for the media’s manipulations - we become part of the pathology of an abusive media. It’s what cults do. It’s why Islam is a cult. It’s why the usurper-in-chief blames a video or a Koran-burning rather than recognizing that a spoiled abuser is simply throwing a deadly tantrum to try to control the rest of us. There’s a whole pathology at play, and people slip into the enabling, denying, etc roles so very, very easily if they aren’t watchful.
Do you understand what I am saying on this?
I bring this up because it seems like your gripe isn’t necessarily over whether what Mourdock said was RIGHT, but only whether it was SMART. When we have to be so afraid of saying something that is right or true, it’s time to ask ourselves what or who is controlling us and why.
exactly
G-d IS NOT micro-managing our lives
everything that happens to us is not a result of G-d micromanaging our lives (G-d’s relationship with Adam identified this)
G-d is never micromanaging the life of a rapist - they ignore G-d, or a rapist’s victim at the moment of the rape
to say that a child conceived by rape is a “gift of G-d” is to say that the rape was a gift of G-d
that is NOT Christian, religious, moral or anything but assinine
on the other end, after the rape, yes, every human life is precious, and once conceived, AFTER the child is conceived, that life is precious, to G-d and it ought to be to us
yet, to say it is a “gift” of G-d is in my view immoral
if that statement were not immoral then there really would be nothing wrong with rape as a legitimate form of human conception, when in fact to most Christians it is not even moral or ethical for a husband to rape his wife - so how can the rape and any result of it be “gift of G-d” - it can’t, anymore than can the trauma at the time, for the victim, and the trauma that can continue for years for the victim be called a “gift of G-d”
what evil does is never a “gift of G-d”
no Christian is correct when they excuse evil acts that humans do as “an act of G-d” (just as stupidly as when Pat Robertson faulted some of our “sinful” Americans for the attacks on 9/11).
when an evil act occurs, G-d has been and is being ignored by those committing the act - they have abandoned G-d and G-d has abondoned them (for the moment, they may repent later), therefore what they do is not a “gift” from G-d
afterward, we do seek gifts from G-d, to help us through what we must do to go one with our lives; we seek the gifts of G-d’s peace, G-d’s strength, G-d’s forgiveness for our enemies, G-d’s wisdom and G-d’s grace
but the rape - its is not a “gift” period
For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. Psalm 139:13
Because they (pro-abortionists) never seem to want to accept the fact that the Pro Life position considers a human life to be BORN at CONCEPTION.
They are like the DEVIL tempting JESUS in the desert every time.
Because they (pro-abortionists) never seem to want to accept the fact that the Pro Life position considers a human life to be BORN at CONCEPTION. They are like the DEVIL tempting JESUS in the desert every time.
(Mourdock, not you.)
It was asked to make pusillanimous fools run around in circles with their hair on fire, screaming and shouting and throwing their candidate to the wolves.
Did it succeed?
Exactly. And Romney and the GOPe will backstab him, because power is more important than principles.
That is the democratic, abortion on demand position, what are you doing here?
He’s a proabort Rombot. What can you possibly expect from them? A spine?
This should have been a safe seat. It’s now lost to the godless left, no doubt for some greater good, I guess. Unreal.
Only G-d can create life. If G-d didn’t create that life as a gift, then why DID He create it?
In the middle of the destruction of 9-11 the rubble formed a cross. Many viewed that as the Lord giving a sign of comfort in the middle of the sorrow and destruction. If somebody said that the appearance of that cross at that place and time was a gift from the Lord, would they be saying that the terrorist attack was G-d’s gift also? Or can the Lord allow something bad - that He hates - to happen but put a blessing right in the middle of it anyway?
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