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How to Lose a Winnable U.S. Senate Race (AZ)
Time ^ | October 19, 2012 | ALEX ALTMAN

Posted on 10/20/2012 3:24:26 PM PDT by neverdem

Richard Carmona, the Democratic candidate for the Arizona senate seat being vacated by Jon Kyl, is a former U.S. surgeon general and decorated military veteran. A Hispanic American, he overcame childhood homelessness and has deep roots in the Tucson area, where he served as a deputy sheriff for more than two decades. Barack Obama himself called Carmona to urge him to run, knowing the Spanish-speaking doctor is the kind of blue-chip candidate capable of wresting away a Senate seat in a red state. And Carmona seems poised to do just that. The past two polls in Arizona have shown Carmona edging ahead of U.S. Representative Jeff Flake, the Republican nominee, and Democratic forces have begun pouring cash into the state in hopes of snatching an upset victory.

But with one stupid quip, Carmona may have badly damaged his chances. During a testy exchange in a Thursday night debate, moderator Brahm Resnik quipped, “Now I know how Candy Crowley felt,” he said. To which Carmona replied: “You’re prettier than her,” and patted the moderator’s hand.

“Not sure how to take that,” Resnik said. Nor should women in Arizona. Here’s the video of the exchange:

(Excerpt) Read more at swampland.time.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az2012; carmona; flake; kyl
There are two short videos at the source.
1 posted on 10/20/2012 3:24:30 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
This is pretty freaky.
2 posted on 10/20/2012 3:30:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Get the transcript Candy! - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: neverdem

Putting this quip aside for a second, just how the hell is Flake in trouble in Arizona to begin with?


3 posted on 10/20/2012 3:30:33 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: neverdem

Of course I would’ve written the storyline differently - like ‘democrat hoisted on his own petard’, or ‘how to win a seat by turning liberal hypersensitivity back on a Democrat’.


4 posted on 10/20/2012 3:30:34 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: neverdem

Didn’t know this guy was a deputy sheriff in Tucson. Did he work for doofus Dupnik?


5 posted on 10/20/2012 3:30:45 PM PDT by PressurePoint
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To: neverdem

Much worse than Binders


6 posted on 10/20/2012 3:31:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem
has deep roots in the Tucson area, where he served as a deputy sheriff for more than two decades

I presume that he served under Sheriff Clarence Dupnik. I wouldn't exactly consider that a recommendation.

7 posted on 10/20/2012 3:34:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GeronL

I was actually going to say, “well at least he didn’t mention women in binders” :-)


8 posted on 10/20/2012 3:34:38 PM PDT by illinifan (The Left doesn't want you to be upwardly mobile. They want you to be angry and disaffected)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

There is a candidate in Dallas saturating the airwaves accusing her opponent of being pro-rape. Crazy


9 posted on 10/20/2012 3:34:58 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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10 posted on 10/20/2012 3:35:42 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: C. Edmund Wright
He's remembered by many here as the guy who co-authored the amnesty bill with McCain. Though, that never seems to hurt McCain.

I just, in the past few days, have been seeing these Carmona guys signs popping up. I was wondering who he was, I had not heard his name or seen the signs prior to this week.

I am voting for Flake but his arrogance during the whole immigration bill left me with a sour taste in my mouth for him. Kyl too, though he wasn't arrogant about it, it turned me off from him and I had really liked him at one time.

11 posted on 10/20/2012 3:37:31 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Putting this quip aside for a second, just how the hell is Flake in trouble in Arizona to begin with?

The polls are wrong and Flake will almost certainly win - but he does have a reputation as a lobbyist-owned insider.

12 posted on 10/20/2012 3:38:03 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Putting this quip aside for a second, just how the hell is Flake in trouble in Arizona to begin with?

Latino solidarity and an open seat?

Real Clear Politics says it's a toss up.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/senate/2012_elections_senate_map.html

13 posted on 10/20/2012 3:47:11 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: All

Carmona seems to have issues with anger and women

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4k8sMJdIhJg


14 posted on 10/20/2012 3:52:43 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: neverdem
I remember some time ago hearing him on conservative talk radio here is Oro Valley (Tucson) on the weekends, I think it was a regular show; but I never took to him because he wasn't conservative enough for me. Turns out he was a registered Independent.
There was a negative ad against Flake a few months ago, where Flake was caught saying “I lied” about term limiting representative.
Of course, I will vote for Flake, but he is soft on illegal immigration, if memory serves, but fiscally fine.
15 posted on 10/20/2012 4:06:05 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: neverdem

How can Democrats support someone who is so insensitive to women’s needs that he would publicly make a derogatory remark about a woman’s looks? Especially Candy Crowley’s, who has become a heroine to liberals everywhere.

If Don Imus can get fired for calling a few Black cheerleaders ‘’nappy-headed ho’s,’’ shouldn’t Arizona’s Democratic Senate candidate be forced to step down for implying that a fat middle-aged woman is ugly? Where’s the outrage?!


16 posted on 10/20/2012 4:06:16 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: neverdem

Carmona must have hurt his paw at the debate-
The Humane Society spent about 60 grand on Carmona on 10/19/2012,

Guess they spayed him too, why else would they be spending that much on a candidate?


17 posted on 10/20/2012 4:07:04 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: neverdem

Do you have to be gay to run for statewide office in AZ?


18 posted on 10/20/2012 4:11:01 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: neverdem

Carmona was a good SG and would be an asset to the Senate. Too bad he is a D and there are too many Ds in the Senate.


19 posted on 10/20/2012 4:13:18 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: neverdem

LOL... the site in your post comes back...”sorry Charlie”...when copy and pasted.


20 posted on 10/20/2012 4:26:05 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If Ted Kennedy was still alive, he would be campaigning for him


21 posted on 10/20/2012 4:32:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

flake is an open borders rino


22 posted on 10/20/2012 4:33:55 PM PDT by Jeff Vader (voting for romney, would much rather have Sarah Palin)
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To: neverdem

Arizona is like Massachusetts in reverse. We are a very conservative state that sometimes elects Democrats to statewide office or Republican-leaning districts when they are perceived as competent and moderate or conservative.

Note what I say about “perceived”; not all of them deserve their reputations.

Before Carmona, who is really not that bad for a Democrat, there were Napolitano, Mitchell, Stump, DeConcini, and Babbitt.

Flake is a good guy, but he’s been coasting, and all of a sudden he is now finding that he’s got a real fight on his hands.


23 posted on 10/20/2012 4:36:54 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I have seen this ad frequently and it is scary

GO FLAKE!

24 posted on 10/20/2012 4:37:17 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: neverdem

unfortunately, the guy sounds like perfect senate material


25 posted on 10/20/2012 4:37:23 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: greatvikingone
Carmona was a good SG and would be an asset to the Senate. Too bad he is a D and there are too many Ds in the Senate.

Yeah, he sounds like a real gem

26 posted on 10/20/2012 4:40:19 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
, just how the hell is Flake in trouble in Arizona to begin with?

In 19809 (In the Reagan landslide) Barry Goldwater almost lost to George Schultz. That race was not decided until Wed. morning. I remember, because I was there.
27 posted on 10/20/2012 4:44:15 PM PDT by John D
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To: greatvikingone
"Carmona was a good SG and would be an asset to the Senate."

That's hard to see how when his chief of staff is blaming a non-candidate for Carmona's troubling outbursts.

Politico: "Tameron, Carmona’s top campaign aide, said Beato was attempting to deflect attention from her own activities by raising the explosive allegations against Carmona."

"Deflect attention from her own activities" ??! Like what, going to the grocery?

Just to be clear, my opinion of him was and remains -- he's a hardcore douchebag. Arizona is going to shitcan Carmona's political career, and there's nothing for him after this but Tucson dogcatcher...

28 posted on 10/20/2012 5:36:54 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NE1, NC, FL, VA, OH, CO, IA, NV, NH = 291EV)
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To: neverdem; All

Carmona is a loose cannon. Read up on his shootout with a suspect and the number of innocent people he narrowly missed hitting. His resume looks good but he sides with the team that required our Border Patrol agents to use beanbags against known dangerous targets. Az doesn’t need him or his ilk.


29 posted on 10/20/2012 5:44:45 PM PDT by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Kolath

Is that an ad? It should be on TV in AZ...


30 posted on 10/20/2012 6:33:53 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Jeff Vader
flake is an open borders rino

I get that, but the Democrat will be more open border, more left leaning, and represent a party that is more of both also.

31 posted on 10/20/2012 6:45:56 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: greatvikingone

how would he be an asset to the Senate?


32 posted on 10/20/2012 6:47:43 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Putting this quip aside for a second, just how the hell is Flake in trouble in Arizona to begin with?

The illegal alien vote the Democrats depend on? That's why they pushed this scumbag Carmona to run in the first place.

33 posted on 10/20/2012 7:00:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: greatvikingone
Carmona was a good SG and would be an asset to the Senate.

No. He wouldn't.
He would fall right into line with the rest of the socialist, America-hating scumbag Democrats. He would be a nightmare.

34 posted on 10/20/2012 7:08:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Well there are some things not adding up here. We know Obama will not win this state - and one would think the Senate would follow in this years election.

And I hear Flake is soft in immigration, which also doesn’t make sense that he would get beat in the hispanic vote worse than Mitt.

Or, polls could be BS.


35 posted on 10/20/2012 8:07:18 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Holy hell. Talk about a “war on women!” That’s frightful.


36 posted on 10/20/2012 8:16:12 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Or, Flake being soft on illegal aliens hurts him with the conservative base, which takes him for a pandering fool.


37 posted on 10/20/2012 8:19:19 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

He probably is a pandering fool. But he will vote against Obama Care - his opponent will not. The conservative base will be slitting their own throats, and mine and yours, if they sit it out for Flake.


38 posted on 10/20/2012 8:33:01 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Flake also supports the sodomization of the US military.
He is slitting his own throat.


39 posted on 10/20/2012 9:32:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Why would his quip (joke) cause him not to get elected if he was in the lead or gaining on Mr. Flake for goodness sake Joe Biden is the VP and look at the crap he says and does. I think the man was going to lose anyway and they are just using this as an excuse.
40 posted on 10/20/2012 11:58:08 PM PDT by funfan
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I didn’t say I wasn’t voting for him, just why I’m not too enthusiastic about it. in many ways it’s the same as the Presidential election.


41 posted on 10/21/2012 5:46:59 AM PDT by Jeff Vader (voting for romney, would much rather have Sarah Palin)
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To: Lancey Howard

So let me get this straight....Flake is MORE pro gay and MORE pro illegal than the Democrat who is running?


42 posted on 10/21/2012 6:08:04 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
So let me get this straight....Flake is MORE pro gay and MORE pro illegal than the Democrat who is running?

Unlikely. They're probably about the same.

Anyway, do you have reading comprehension issues, or did you just reply to the wrong post by mistake? I sure never said or implied that Flake was "MORE pro gay and MORE pro illegal than the Democrat who is running". My point is that on two critical issues Flake fell flat on his face, and that may hurt him at the polls by alienating conservatives. I thought I was pretty clear.

43 posted on 10/21/2012 8:48:38 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I knew exactly where you were going, but you were being obtuse and just ranting about Flake - the kind of thing that is primary stuff. Those sentiments, while I understand them, do not explain why he is having trouble this late in the game while Obama is getting killed in Arizona - unless Arizona republicans are idiots.


44 posted on 10/21/2012 9:32:22 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
...but you were being obtuse and just ranting about Flake

No. I wasn't. You're a liar or a moron. Or both.

Those sentiments, while I understand them, do not explain why he is having trouble this late in the game while Obama is getting killed in Arizona...

My point, for the final time, is that maybe the GOP candidate is the problem.

45 posted on 10/21/2012 11:40:26 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I was playing with you, and in your anger and pursuit of the perfect candidate, you totally missed it.

Flake not a perfect candidate? Gee, knew knew? Wow, what a shock. You don’t say. Oooh, I never saw that coming. I thought he was Ronal Reagan. /sarc.

Still, nothing you says answers the question in the state dominated by McCain.
Bye.


46 posted on 10/21/2012 12:04:14 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright ("You Might Be a Liberal" (YMBAL) Coming out Sept 1 by C. Edmund Wright)
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To: rwfromkansas

It is on the TV, all the time.
My wife and I both looked at each other in disbelief the first time we saw it. That kind of ad is a career-killer.

Carmon came back with an ad that had a woman supporting him. IMHO, it wasn’t very believable. But the leftists in Tucson will vote for him, regardless. He’s one of theirs.


47 posted on 10/21/2012 11:15:42 PM PDT by HiJinx (Bring back public hangings!)
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