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How US Ambassador Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked To Jihadist Rebels In Syria
Business Insider ^ | Oct 19, 2012 | Michael Kelly

Posted on 10/19/2012 6:37:14 AM PDT by KeyLargo

How US Ambassador Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked To Jihadist Rebels In Syria

Michael Kelley | 46 minutes ago

US Weapons Are Going To Hard-Line Jihadists Fighting To Topple The Syrian Regime

The details of the September 11 attack that killed four Americans at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi are still murky and there's certainly more to be known.

Former CIA officer Clare Lopez argues that the key issue is "the relationship of the U.S. government, Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya with Al Qaeda."

That relationship, Lopez argues, could be connected to the rise of Islamic brigades in Syria, who recently created a "Front to Liberate Syria" to wage jihad against the Syrian regime and turn the country into an Islamic state.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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1 posted on 10/19/2012 6:37:19 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Ambassador Stevens was doing gun running to the Syrian rebels.

In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition and began coordinating U.S. assistance to the rebels.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-syria-heavy-weapons-jihadists-2012-10#ixzz29khBKBov

2 posted on 10/19/2012 6:45:17 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Fast and Furious Libya style. Confirmation of Turkish Ambs.

Now we know why he was meeting with the shipping company listed in the documents found.

If the new Libyan government was sending jihadists and 400 tons of lethal cargo to Syria through a port in southern Turkey—a deal brokered by Stevens’ primary Libyan contact during the Libyan revolution—then the governments of Turkey and the U.S. surely knew about it


3 posted on 10/19/2012 6:46:51 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: KeyLargo

Now I think we finally might be ‘getting somewhere’ on who/what/where/why ......


4 posted on 10/19/2012 6:48:58 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: crosslink

September 11th Stevens was meeting with the Turkish backer of the Syrian rebels,

The Spectacle Blog

Exporting Fast & Furious to Syria

By Ross Kaminsky on 10.16.12 @ 2:49PM

I can’t say I came up the the comparison to Fast and Furious, though I can say it’s so obvious that you’d think the Obama administration would have recognized it. I hope that Romney deals with this in the debate tonight.

http://spectator.org/blog/2012/10/16/exporting-fast-furious-to-syri


5 posted on 10/19/2012 6:52:01 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Thanks for posting. I believe there is much more to the story and ME policy than is being told. But I have been watching MI5 every night so I could be jaundiced. Or not.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 6:52:14 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: KeyLargo
Iran/Contra Fast&Furious style smuggling of arms into Syria by this Administration ?
Can we say it Alex ?
Alex ? I take: This establishes " Motive " for this administration to keep Chris Stevens quite for $ 200 ?
7 posted on 10/19/2012 6:52:30 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: MissMagnolia

Foreign and Defense Policy

Obama’s Syrian ‘Fast and Furious’
Marc Thiessen | October 16, 2012, 1:49 pm

Imagine if the Obama administration participated in the creation of an arms pipeline to al Qaeda in Syria – a “Fast and Furious” program running Saudi and Qatari weapons to our terrorist enemies in the Middle East. Then imagine that Vice President Joe Biden looked the American people in the eye during the vice presidential debate last week, and lied about it.

It would make Susan Rice’s blaming the Benghazi attack on a YouTube video pale by comparison.

Yet that is precisely what has happened. The New York Times reported on its front page Monday:

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/10/obamas-syrian-fast-and-furious/


8 posted on 10/19/2012 6:54:22 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
Glenn Beck is unpacking this story now on his show.

On September 11 Stevens held an evening meeting with a Turkish diplomat before retiring to his room at 9 p.m. Gunfire and explosions began 40 minutes later. Is Steven's guest for his last meeting just another eerie coincidence?

Either way it seems that the connection between Benghazi and the rise of jihadists in Syria is much stronger than has been officially acknowledged.

9 posted on 10/19/2012 6:54:54 AM PDT by reegs
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To: KeyLargo
In the aftermath of the Embassy attack there has been a move to turn Stevens into some sort of Sainted Martyr.

In reality, he was an Arabist and an Milddle East Nativist who internalized much of the mind set of the Radical Arab world. He was a supporter of the PLO and maintained close connections dn ties to Middle East radical groups.

For this reason he was chosen as liaison and adviser to the Muslim opposition militias in Libya.

He took sides in the Libyan Civil War and help defeat and eliminate members of opposition groups that Clinton and Obama were not in favor of.

He made a lot of nnemies and while he may have been close personally to many individuals in high places in the Islamist militias, at the end of the day he was still the man who was the face of the Great Satan in the region.

He was also a useful idiot who had been insrumental to the Muslim Brotherhood gaining power in Libya, but in his new position he was becoming an obstacle to those who he had put in power using Libya as a spring board to further Jihad.

10 posted on 10/19/2012 6:55:45 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: KeyLargo
If that is true, no amount of 'Cables' between State Dept and Amb. Stevens will exonerate Hillary.

Hillary is done.

11 posted on 10/19/2012 6:57:11 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: KeyLargo

So, if I understand this correctly, the attack began 40 minutes after Stevens met with the Turkish diplomat who was also serving as his weapons broker that supplied the Libyan rebels but who is now facilitating the transport of weapons to Syria from Libya?


12 posted on 10/19/2012 6:59:03 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: reegs

I need help understanding some of this.

Why would Turkey help arm the Syrians? In the past 2 weeks or so I got the impression that the two countries are coming to blows because Syrian rockets (or ours I guess) landed in Turkey, so Turkey retaliated. Is that correct?

If so, I’m just going in circles trying to understand all this now.


13 posted on 10/19/2012 6:59:59 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: KeyLargo

Interesting


14 posted on 10/19/2012 7:00:55 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: KeyLargo

Engaging in regime change without a UN Security Council resolution? Didn’t that used to be frowned upon?


15 posted on 10/19/2012 7:01:37 AM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: KeyLargo
Also the questions American public should ask this admin (and themselves) are -

Where ELSE did F&F extend to?

Where the money is from, to be used on F&F - Libyan front?
Without a budget for 4 years, is Congress even made aware of such expenditures?

16 posted on 10/19/2012 7:02:08 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: KeyLargo

17 posted on 10/19/2012 7:03:42 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Texas Eagle

I am more than a little confused about who is on which side of the issue.

What it looks like to me is that once the weapons deal was done, Stevens was no longer useful, and in fact was a liability who needed to be removed.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 7:03:42 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: kevslisababy

It’s all about Zer0’s Islamic Faith.


19 posted on 10/19/2012 7:05:02 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: kevslisababy

You might be confusing the Assad (government) side in Syria’s internal conflict with the opposition side. Turkey is mad at the Assad regime. This weaponry is supposedly being funneled to people who claim to be opponents of that regime, but who at the same time apparently are linked to al qaeda.


20 posted on 10/19/2012 7:05:43 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: generally
I am more than a little confused about who is on which side of the issue.

Same here.

I guess the question that needs to be answered is: Who benefits?

21 posted on 10/19/2012 7:09:45 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

Loved that series.


22 posted on 10/19/2012 7:09:54 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Go back and listen to Hillary's statement right after the attack. It puts the “WE” in her statement into context as referring to the Obama administration and not the US as a whole.
23 posted on 10/19/2012 7:10:43 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Texas Eagle; rdcbn

Stevens was certainly a useful idiot and an islamophile, just like his bosses, Hillary and Bambi. They probably expected Al Qaeda to love them and reward them for their generous support by at least pretending not to be the savages that they are.

The attack on the consulate was clearly planned in advance and they wanted specifically to get Stevens. Was it because he knew too much or maybe was having a sudden attack of conscience (or had even been told by Hillary or Obama to see if he could get the weapons back?).

It had onviously been planned well before his meeting with the Turk, but maybe the Turk gave the go-ahead signal. Or maybe not. Someone else pointed out that there must have been a mole in the operation somewhere.

Also,I think they wanted to get documents and information that was being kept at the consulate.


24 posted on 10/19/2012 7:13:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: KeyLargo

Thank you, The documents found and posted on this site showed he was meeting with a shipping company, Al Marta Shipping company. They control the ports in Libya. He also met with Arabian Gulf Oil company.


25 posted on 10/19/2012 7:13:52 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: KeyLargo
I will repeat my "dream scenario" that I posted on another thread a week or so ago .... Seal Team 6 perp walking Obama and The Mooch out of the White House .... and doing the same for Biden out of the USNO residence. Unfortunately, we have to go through the impeachment process and cannot take direct action in cases like this. If Obama is not defeated in November, the cowards in Congress need to act or lose the country to the enemy within. Speaking of the 'enemy within', check this out:

Congressman Gave Binder of Muslims to Obama?

26 posted on 10/19/2012 7:14:54 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: KeyLargo

bttt


27 posted on 10/19/2012 7:17:16 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: kevslisababy

If the rockets that landed in Turkey from Syrian territory belonged to Assad’s forces (government), then your parenthesis statement that the rockets are “ours, I guess” couldn’t be more wrong. We don’t provide rockets to the Assad regime in Syria. Russia provides weaponry to them.

What you need is to make a distinction between the Assad regime (government side) in Syria and the opposition that is fighting against Assad. And at the same time, remember that the opposition has apparently been hijacked by al qaeda, whatever name they might call themselves.

There are, tragically, thousands of Syrian citizens who have been killed or who have fled Syria and become refugees. Just ordinary people. They hate Assad and they don’t typically cheer for al qaeda either, they just wanted to be left alone to live their lives. But they have been trapped in the situation and their lives have been destroyed.

I wrote on this topic days ago, to answer the claim that we (America) should do nothing...even if Romney wins...just let them over there kill each other off. Let Assad slaughter his own people, let the opposition do their thing without our involvement, etc. My anwer was...and it has become evident by events now...that al qaeda is a huge factor and it wouldn’t be good if the Assad dictatorship continues the slaughter NOR would it be good if al qaeda dominates Syria, right on Israel’s doorstep.

To do NOTHING is bad, just as doing the wrong thing (Obama regime actions) is bad.


28 posted on 10/19/2012 7:19:44 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: KeyLargo

Does this help explain why the 2 Navy Seals were in the neighborhood as all this went down?
Or were they just tourist on vacation?


29 posted on 10/19/2012 7:20:22 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: livius
Stevens was certainly a useful idiot and an islamophile, just like his bosses, Hillary and Bambi. They probably expected Al Qaeda to love them and reward them for their generous support by at least pretending not to be the savages that they are.

Oops. The frog helps the scorpion cross the stream and then the scorpion stings the frog anyways.

Clearly Stevens was the frog.

The jury is still out on whether Butch and Bambi are frogs or scorpions.

30 posted on 10/19/2012 7:20:57 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: reegs

Will there be a transcript Beck reporting this on his site?


31 posted on 10/19/2012 7:25:31 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (What Clint Said !!!)
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To: generally
My bet is Steven's was supposed to be taken hostage so he could work with al Qaeda in Syria without anyone knowing about it.

Remember, there wasn't supposed to be any security there to put up any resistance.

32 posted on 10/19/2012 7:28:49 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: KeyLargo; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; navyvet; Travis McGee

This is getting really interesting. Sounds like whomever is in charge of the farm set up this newest fast and furious!

Of course this again brings up that old Latin Phrase “Cui bono!”

Or who benefited from this.

Cui bono - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono - 27k - Cached - Similar pages Cui bono (”To whose benefit?”, literally “as a benefit to whom?”, a double dative construction), also rendered as Cui prodest, is a Latin adage that is used either


33 posted on 10/19/2012 7:39:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: KeyLargo
I had suspected that was going on, or something similar.

'I suspect something shady was going on by the Ambassador. Protocol would have required a detachment of Marines to provide security. I dunno what he was doing, I suspect he was favoring one faction over another instead of being the neutral party. '

34 posted on 10/19/2012 7:45:50 AM PDT by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: KeyLargo; Uncle Chip; All

this is surprising?
only to people who didn’t read Steven OWN secret cables,
reveal by Wikileaks.
...in it, he seem to clearly support the Islamists,
against Qaddafi. He even admitted, some of them,
had returned from trying to kill Americans,
in Iraq and Afghanistan.
...he cheerfully worked with them, to overthrow Qaddafi.
(who actually had been helping the USA AGAINST the Islamists, until USA planes in NATO started bombing him...)
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so why should it be a surprise, that Stevens was using his Islamist friends, to help overthrow Assad, in continuation of Obama’s support of the Islamist “Arab Spring” ?


35 posted on 10/19/2012 7:58:14 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: KeyLargo
we'll see this on the network news and in the headlines of the slimes and compost ... right?

.

36 posted on 10/19/2012 8:05:35 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: KeyLargo
"Who the hell is Ben Gazzi?"


37 posted on 10/19/2012 8:13:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Texas Eagle

That’s true. I think Butch may be a little on the frog side still, but Bambi may be a scorpion dressed as a frog.


38 posted on 10/19/2012 8:13:23 AM PDT by livius
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To: KeyLargo

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39 posted on 10/19/2012 8:14:16 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: livius
" The attack on the consulate was clearly planned in advance and they wanted specifically to get Stevens. Was it because he knew too much or maybe was having a sudden attack of conscience (or had even been told by Hillary or Obama to see if he could get the weapons back?) "

Rethink this:

Put this all in light of the fact that they ( this administration, all the Intel Agencies, the State Department according to Col. Hunt's statements. ) were all listening in on all of this as it was taking place and most likely those drones where there to watch it live.

They waited, no, they sat there for 6 hours and did nothing while they heard the screams for help as those men were drying.
Did this administration panic as it went down and wanted to hide this from the American public that they were running arms into Syria illegally ? a La Iran/Contra/Fast&Furious ?

Or ?

As some have said, after the deal was done Chris Stevens became a liability and he had to be made to shut up ? i.e. kept quite Chicago Style ?
40 posted on 10/19/2012 8:15:06 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: KeyLargo

For years, former presidents and Washington officials have whispered that Jimmy Carter committed treason against the U.S. and should be prosecuted. The stigma of prosecuting a former POTUS, however, and the fear of political retribution have prevented any such against Carter.

If Obama’s administration is arming the Islamic terrorists who killed 3000 people on 9.11.2001, Romney must pursue charges of treason against Obama. Political consequences be damned, Obama must not get away with arming an enemy against whom we are at war. Period.


41 posted on 10/19/2012 8:17:00 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Grampa Dave
Egypt's Morsi was demanding other countries bring down Syrian government in his UN speech. Both Hillary and Obama want to keep funding Egypt.

link

42 posted on 10/19/2012 8:20:20 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: reegs

[ Glenn Beck is unpacking this story now on his show.
On September 11 Stevens held an evening meeting with a Turkish diplomat before retiring to his room at 9 p.m. Gunfire and explosions began 40 minutes later. Is Steven’s guest for his last meeting just another eerie coincidence?

Either way it seems that the connection between Benghazi and the rise of jihadists in Syria is much stronger than has been officially acknowledged. ]

What the heck would Glenn Beck know?

Oh well, besides Everything that has happened in the middle east for the last two years because he listens to the islamists IN THIER OWN WORDS!


43 posted on 10/19/2012 8:29:43 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Paladin2

Who is that?


44 posted on 10/19/2012 8:32:54 AM PDT by golfisnr1
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To: IMR 4350

Doubt the Bam crew wanted a hostage scenario just before the elections. Perhaps trying to speed up the overthrow of Assad in Syria with more artillery to the rebels might have been a feather in the cap to Bam before Nov 6th.


45 posted on 10/19/2012 8:33:44 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I think the administration definitely knows a lot more than anybody is admitting too - but the problem is that so many of the things they do can as well be attributed to incompetence as to malice, so sometimes it’s hard to sort it out.

Everybody at the top - who would probably have been required to give or approve the orders to send help - seems to have been AWOL. Was that stupidity and incompetence, or was it intentional?

I do think the attack was connected to the weapons that Obama has been busy distributing to radical groups throughout the ME. Supposedly, at the time of the attack, there was or recently had been a group of CIA operatives in Benghazi who had been trying to track down the distribution route for the weapons.

Possibly Stevens was left there to die because the administration hoped that’s what would happen; but possibly it was an accident because they had hoped that he’d be able to put the genie back in the bottle and found out way too late that he couldn’t.

As for the attack, the jihadists obviously were looking for him and wanted to kill him. They had been tipped off and knew exactly when and where to go. They had to have planned it well in advance of the Turk’s visit.

AQ might have attacked anyway, just to show us that they were still powerful (although against no odds, since we didn’t have any military protection there) and still hated us, but this was so focused on Stevens that they must have had a further objective beyond that and it must have been coordinated from the outside. So there is the usual question, what did Obama know and when did he know it?

This has the potential to be a huge scandal for Obama and might even overwhelm the ability of the MSM to spin it favorably. Their only hope is to prevent further discussion of it.


46 posted on 10/19/2012 8:41:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: KeyLargo

One of the first info drops by wikileaks published in The Telegraph was State Department cables discussing a training program in the US for protest leaders for the creation of the “Arab Spring”. We brought over Muslim militants from Egypt to train them to lead the Arab Spring. Global community organizing...

I think the US government and leftist activists like Soros, code pinko and Google were all involved in creating the regimes changes in the Middle East, knowing it would lead to the Muslim Brotherhood taking over those nations they targeted. The leftist media played their part by endlessly repeating the lies that it was a freedom democracy movement.

So...why would it surprise us if the ambassador was involved with Muslim radicals in Libya when we have seen State Department cables showing the US government and Obama’s political allies funded, organized and ran the show of regime changes to the Muslim Brotherhood?


47 posted on 10/19/2012 8:50:13 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: kevslisababy
Why would Turkey help arm the Syrians? In the past 2 weeks or so I got the impression that the two countries are coming to blows because Syrian rockets (or ours I guess) landed in Turkey, so Turkey retaliated. Is that correct?

You are correct..

However the jihadis still need some further training in the missile aiming and compass reading category.

48 posted on 10/19/2012 8:56:40 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: txrangerette

Thank you. That is where I was the most confused.


49 posted on 10/19/2012 8:56:58 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: livius
You know your going to hear it... so you might as well say it.


The main stream media, Liberals, Democrats are going to cry : " SOME HOW IN SOME CONVOLUTED WAY THIS IS NOT AS BAD AS ABU-GRAPES AND WATERGATE... NIXON's COVER UP ! "

50 posted on 10/19/2012 9:05:18 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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