Skip to comments.Florida's own version of 'Fast and Furious' has Jacksonville roots
Posted on 10/18/2012 3:00:49 PM PDT by marktwain
It was January 2010, and Hugh Crumpler III was sitting at a Brevard County gas station with a Chevrolet Suburban full of really dangerous guns. It wouldnt last.
He was there to meet interested buyer Jorge Acosta, who left with 12 Fabrique Nationale Herstal semi-automatic handguns. They are termed matapolicias, or cop killers, by drug cartels in South and Central American.
Federal court documents say Acosta was a Texas resident who was living in the Jacksonville area. He made clear to Crumpler that the guns were not heading to the First Coast.
Jorge Acosta has advised Crumpler on several occasions that Jorge Acosta is sending all of his purchased firearms to Honduras, read court documents, which also said Crumpler had sold him up to 150 guns over a two-year period.
Later that year, Acosta pleaded guilty to gun trafficking-related charges. Crumpler testified against him after he flipped and agreed to work with law enforcement.
The relationship is a snapshot into Operation Castaway, a federal investigation into the flow of illegal guns from Florida to violent foreign drug cartels in South and Central America. Crumpler and federal officials paint two different pictures of the operations.
The government can point to the nine convictions secured based on the investigation.
Operation Castaway was a law enforcement operation which began as an investigation of an unlicensed firearms dealer and resulted in the arrest and conviction of the unlicensed dealer, as well as international arms traffickers, wrote William Daniels, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorneys Office in Floridas Middle District.
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Gunwalker / Murdergate ping.
What is so dangerous about the FN semi-automatic handguns? Sounds like many other 9mm and .40 handguns made by other manufacturers to me.
I suppose dangerous means they will explode if you touch them.
They also have a built-in electronic chip which only allows them to shoot at cops. That is why they are called “cop killer” guns.
So what will we get here? Another meaningless, endless investigation into a brick wall. That’s what.
FN makes a Five-Seven which shoots a very high velocity .22 (actually a 5.7mm) cal bullet that some say can penetrate lighter body armor. I don’t believe there is any evidence that it is deadlier than 9mm or .40 cal but like the federal “black talon” bullets it has developed a reputation based more on urban legend than reality. It is still nowhere near as lethal as a 7.62 x 39 bullet from the AK-47’s that are ubiquitous throughout South America.
“...like the federal black talon bullets “
Agree with everything you posted, just one small quibble, Black Talon ammo was manufactured by Winchester.
I should have known to double check my gun statements when posting on FR :-)
Ok, thanks for the info. It commands a pretty good price, but it’s readily available from online gun dealers like Impact Guns.
Not a prob, easy mistake to make. Just a simple mix up, it not like you said that the loss of 4 Americans in Lybia was “not optimal”. And yes, Federal has some very fine defensive ammo as well.
> FN makes a Five-Seven which shoots a very high velocity .22 (actually a 5.7mm) cal bullet that some say can penetrate lighter body armor. I dont believe there is any evidence that it is deadlier than 9mm or .40 cal
The Five-Seven was used in the Fort Hood shooting. Seems to have been pretty deadly there — 14 people.
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