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Billy Graham's lurch towards Mitt Romney risks his legacy [Lib Suddenly Cares about Evangelicals]
The Guardian ^ | October 18, 2012

Posted on 10/18/2012 6:03:49 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

As America's pastor for the past half century, Billy Graham has earned a reputation as a wise and holy man. But the respect he has gained as a man of unflinching, unerring principles has been severely compromised by his Evangelistic Association's decision to remove a reference to Mormonism from its website...

"I hope millions of Americans will join me in praying for our nation and to vote for candidates who will support the biblical definition of marriage, protect the sanctity of life and defend our religious freedoms," Graham said.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012endorsements; billygraham; christians; christianvote; evangelicals; religion
I agree with Billy.
1 posted on 10/18/2012 6:03:55 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’d rather vote for someone who has some funny beliefs about God than someone who believes there is no God, or someone who worships Satan/Mohammad


2 posted on 10/18/2012 6:05:46 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Liberals in PANIC mode.


3 posted on 10/18/2012 6:09:03 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Guardian understands evangelical Christians as a pig understands calculus.
And even if they understood it, they would not be concerned about it. The gift of faith is not given to the worldly.


5 posted on 10/18/2012 6:09:35 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SoFloFreeper

Actually this further cements Billy Graham’s legacy as a man of God who also loves his country.


6 posted on 10/18/2012 6:11:53 AM PDT by Josa
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To: SoFloFreeper

.....and yet the left has no problem with people like REVEREND Al Sharpton or REVEREND Jesse Jackson or REVEREND Jeremiah Wright getting involved in political activities.


7 posted on 10/18/2012 6:12:29 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Guardian???

The rest of the time, that British Marxist rag is probably calling Billy Graham a zealot and redneck.


8 posted on 10/18/2012 6:15:59 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SoFloFreeper

The whole article suggests the reason the Grahams are endorsing Romney is because they are RACISTS. The author is a moron as are most of the commnters at the site.


9 posted on 10/18/2012 6:17:21 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: SoFloFreeper
Dear Guardian,

Billy Graham's legacy will remain intact regardless of your mewlings in your Communist rag. Christians understand the impact his ministry has had on people around the globe. God (that guy that you don't believe in) knows it as well.

Romney may not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ in the same way as most Christians, but, if nothing else, devout Mormons live very upright lives placing their faith and families above politics unlike the writers and editors of The Guardian who worship anti-human, anti-God politicians - men worshipping the creation instead of the Creator. How simple-minded.

God will bless Billy Graham with eternal life and the reward of spending that life with Him. I honestly hope the same will be true of you, but it is a sad truth that you will likely arrogantly cling to your false religion until your dying breath and reap the agonizing recompense for your sin.

10 posted on 10/18/2012 6:19:09 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I laughed out loud when I read this. The Guardian — which is as red of a Godless Communist publication as you can get — is concerned that an Evangelical is supporting someone who belongs to that wicked Mormon “cult.” Are they going to start advocating Blue Laws for England next?


11 posted on 10/18/2012 6:20:03 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SoFloFreeper
Uh oh. Billy Graham's reputation among godless liberals is at risk.
12 posted on 10/18/2012 6:20:40 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Billy Graham has earned a reputation as a wise and holy man.”

B. Graham is Baptist and would not agree with that “holy” part.

He sold out when he took down, “Mormonism is a cult” from his web site. Vote for Romney or not as you please, that does not change what Mormonism is.


13 posted on 10/18/2012 6:21:42 AM PDT by Holly_P
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why should British people care about what candidates we should support as Americans? Do you see American columnists telling the English to vote Labour/Conservative or to support or oppose Prime Minister Cameron? I am sick and tired of Canadians and British sticking their nose in our politics. Leave us alone.


14 posted on 10/18/2012 6:22:12 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: Holly_P

In all fairness, the Evangelicals called Catholicism a cult as well.


15 posted on 10/18/2012 6:23:34 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
" or someone who worships Satan/Mohammad/baallah. "

There now, fixed.
16 posted on 10/18/2012 6:23:55 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: SoFloFreeper
Like, Graham would support Pres. Pro-Abort, whose HHS seeks to perpetrate one abrogation of religious rights after another?

Give unto us a break, libs. Your fig leaf of new-found piety and solicitous concern for religious leaders' legacies doesn't cover diddly-squat on your exposed anatomies.

17 posted on 10/18/2012 6:25:09 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

A vocal minority in my observation.

Freegards


18 posted on 10/18/2012 6:26:47 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hey Billy... satan noticed... job well done sir!

LLS


19 posted on 10/18/2012 6:34:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ll choose a Mormon over a Muslim any and every day


20 posted on 10/18/2012 6:37:10 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Instead, you have to ask for your liberal views to be washed away as well because your faith will always be suspect unless you subscribe to a certain brand of Christianity.

True. Take every view to the Bible and see what washes away. I noted Ted Olson was Ryan's debate partner. I don't agree with Ted Olson on gay marriage either, but so far that lie has not penetrated to become orthodoxy in the R party. When it does, I'll abandon them too.

21 posted on 10/18/2012 6:39:29 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Billy Graham’s lurch towards Mitt Romney risks his legacy”

Not in my Book.


22 posted on 10/18/2012 6:55:58 AM PDT by moovova (I work well with others, as long as they leave me alone.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"for the past half century, Billy Graham has earned a reputation as a wise and holy man. "

He hasn't changed.

Perhaps those who disagree with him should reassess their positions.

Note tagline.

(BTW--I am not an Evangelical Christian. I am a very open-minded Episcopalian.)

23 posted on 10/18/2012 6:56:28 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: Holly_P

“He sold out when he took down, “Mormonism is a cult” from his web site. Vote for Romney or not as you please, that does not change what Mormonism is.”

Oh here we go again! The BAC’s are out trying to tell us that we are electing a Pope and we should not vote for A MORMON”! So how is the snake handling going?


24 posted on 10/18/2012 7:15:46 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: grellis

This whole argument is absurd. We are electing a secular official, not a theologian. Anybody but a Marxist!


25 posted on 10/18/2012 7:17:22 AM PDT by Augustinian monk (People ask me 'Why pray if God is sovereign?' Why pray if he isn't?- Michael Horton)
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To: SoFloFreeper

And Obumbler’s embracing the muslim brotherhood wasn’t risky to his evil legacy??The hypocrisy on the left knows no bounds!! At least morons don’t shoot 14yr old girls in the head for wanting an education or arresting a down syndrome child for saying something about the Koran.....GEESH!! Islam the religion of DEATH and ruled by evil men! Women don’t have a chance in hell in that occult....HEY NAGS get a freakin clue!!


26 posted on 10/18/2012 7:34:44 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: grellis

Well said! I’ll take a Morman any day over a muslim, and by the way, I went to Wheaton College, the same college Billy Graham went to, and I remember him as a good person.


27 posted on 10/18/2012 7:38:36 AM PDT by MondoQueen
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To: Holly_P

Well, I’m not voting for Barack Hussein Obama. It’s good you aren’t the judge of Billy Graham or anyone else.


28 posted on 10/18/2012 7:38:47 AM PDT by Twinkie (PEOPLE ARE HURTING IN OBAMA'S ECONOMY . . .)
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To: Holly_P
B. Graham is Baptist and would not agree with that “holy” part.

I don't know what being a Baptist has to do about his being a Holy man.

Colossians 1:22 says that Christ reconciled Christians through his death and Resurrection (this is where the Reconciliation part comes in) to be Holy and blameless and beyond reproach. That is, all people who believe in Christ as Savior are Holy, blameless and beyond reproach.

Being a Baptist has nothing to do with it. I'm a Baptist, and I agree with it because the Bible says it.
29 posted on 10/18/2012 7:50:30 AM PDT by righttackle44 ( I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine . . .)
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To: SoFloFreeper
If Jesus Christ came down (as he will someday) and personally declared that he was just as okay with Mormons as he was with Baptists, Lutherans and any other denomination which worshiped him, there would be a certain crowd who would immediately denounce him as a sellout and claim he was Unchristian.
30 posted on 10/18/2012 8:05:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: RochesterNYconservative
In all fairness, the Evangelicals called Catholicism a cult as well.

No they don't, are you saying that Catholics are grouped with the cults at the site?

31 posted on 10/18/2012 8:52:56 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Vigilanteman

False, Jesus will not reject Christianity and the bible.

All Christian denominations Orthodox, Protestant, Catholic, agree that Mormonism is not a Christian religion, or part of Christianity, but that it is a different religion, made up by Joseph Smith.


32 posted on 10/18/2012 8:56:52 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: SoFloFreeper

Romney’s Mormonism doesn’t matter a whit to me.

His liberalism, however, does.


33 posted on 10/18/2012 9:00:14 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
My own thought is this. Mormon theology is not Christian theology. The question, in my mind, is” can a Mormon come to a saving relationship with Jesus Christ despite the erroneous beliefs that he has about Him?

I don't know. I tend to believe not, but I hope that he can. I leave that to God, and advise all to examine closely the claims of Christ; be they Mormons, Scientologists, JW’s, or any member of other non-Christian religions.

But, if you choose othewise, that's between you and God.

In the meantime, here on this fallen world, the choice is not between Jesus and Obama, but between Mitt and Obama. Any vote but a vote for Mitt is a vote for Obama.

34 posted on 10/18/2012 9:10:26 AM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: Augustinian monk
We are electing a secular official, not a theologian.

To a muslim there's a difference, you think?

35 posted on 10/18/2012 6:17:40 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: grellis

No. Because Islam is more of an ideology than a personal faith. Its a form of nationalism for the Arab world with anti-western themes. That’s why obama hearts it.


36 posted on 10/19/2012 7:35:42 AM PDT by Augustinian monk (People ask me 'Why pray if God is sovereign?' Why pray if he isn't?- Michael Horton)
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To: grellis

No. Islam is more of an ideology than a personal faith. It’s a form of nationalism for the middle east with anti-western themes. That’s why obama hearts it so.


37 posted on 10/19/2012 7:37:21 AM PDT by Augustinian monk (People ask me 'Why pray if God is sovereign?' Why pray if he isn't?- Michael Horton)
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To: GoldenPup
As America's pastor for the past half century,

Eh???

Dude was never my pastor, in any sense of the word.

38 posted on 10/19/2012 7:42:53 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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