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Mississippi passenger detained, stranded in Hawaii by No-Fly List
Canada Free Press and www.digitaljournal.com ^ | 10/17/2012 | By Elliott Freeman

Posted on 10/17/2012 12:42:08 PM PDT by redreno

A Mississippi man flying to visit his wife in Japan on Monday was detained during a stop in Hawaii and has been barred from reboarding his flight - or any other flight - because his name came up on the U.S. No-Fly List, leaving him stranded on the island. Gulfport resident Wade Hicks, Jr., boarded a military jet at Travis Air Force Base in San Francisco so he could spend time with his newlywed wife, a U.S. Navy lieutenant stationed in Okinawa, Japan, the Canada Free Press reports.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 911truther; govtabuse; hicks; japan; noflylist; okinawa; tinfoilers; truthers; tsa; tyranny; usn; wadehicks; wot

1 posted on 10/17/2012 12:42:13 PM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

I got a name for the no-fly list: Obama.

Unless he flies away and promises not to come back.


2 posted on 10/17/2012 12:44:02 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: redreno

Why do we allow this crap to continue?


3 posted on 10/17/2012 12:47:21 PM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: redreno

Did he post a yello gadsten flag on facebook or something?


4 posted on 10/17/2012 12:48:55 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: redreno

Anyone else see the unconstitutional mess this is? I mean, denying the right to travel based on guilt without due process.


5 posted on 10/17/2012 12:50:17 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: redreno

Obama and this group of anti constitutional Marxists MUST GO!


6 posted on 10/17/2012 12:52:21 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: redreno

Why do we have to hear about this from the Canadian press?? Oh right, we had a debate last night!


7 posted on 10/17/2012 12:54:55 PM PDT by Stormy_MS1
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To: redreno
There is only one reason to put a US citizen on a “no-fly” list, and that is if there is reason to believe he will be a threat to the flight crew or passengers.

He managed to get over there, apparently without incident. They don't mention him causing any trouble aboard the flight. If they are going to stop him from traveling to Japan by military flight they ought at least to have returned him to his point of departure.

Barring him from military craft is one thing. Barring him from civilian flights is something else again. If he is like a lot of people, he may not have money for hotels and meals while he figures out a solution.

He should get a very aggressive lawyer.

8 posted on 10/17/2012 12:57:32 PM PDT by marron
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To: redreno
I put myself on the "No Fly List" in 1992.

Way too much B.S.

9 posted on 10/17/2012 1:08:13 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: redreno

FTA:
“I am a very vocal opponent of 9/11. I’ve seen the evidence, and I think the evidence I’ve seen warrants a new investigation, and I’m very vocal about it as well,” he added.

BINGO! That’s why.


10 posted on 10/17/2012 1:10:48 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GraceG
Did he post a yello gadsten flag on facebook or something?

If you read the article, he's a 9/11 "Truther."

11 posted on 10/17/2012 1:14:04 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: marron

my guess is he caught a mac flight on a military plane to Hawaii then from Hawaii it was a chartered military flight on a commercial line to Japan. I would imagine that the squadron commander would have the ability to approve a flight for him back stateside.


12 posted on 10/17/2012 1:15:53 PM PDT by Docbarleypop
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Being a truther is evidence of stupidity but its not a crime.


13 posted on 10/17/2012 1:23:53 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: redreno

Can’t he charter a privte plane? I believe he can without any problems.


14 posted on 10/17/2012 1:29:02 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: redreno

This is astonishing,and frightening.

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15 posted on 10/17/2012 1:30:43 PM PDT by Mears
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To: redreno

What an expensive place to be stuck. You would think if he were on the no fly list, then he would have been flagged before he made it all the way to Japan and half-way back.


16 posted on 10/17/2012 1:32:52 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: CodeToad

Lets hope some hotrod attorney sues the government!!!


17 posted on 10/17/2012 1:35:35 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Strategerist
If you read the article, he's a 9/11 "Truther."

... and that is relevant to the fact that the US government is denynig him the right to travel because?...

18 posted on 10/17/2012 1:47:08 PM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: rawhide

Sure, for $15,000. That’s more than my annual income. He got over there on a military charter flight. Hopefully they will return him home on a similar flight.


19 posted on 10/17/2012 1:51:34 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: rawhide

I run an aircraft charter operation.
We use the same no fly list. Except, if the aircraft has a gross take off weight of less than 12,500 pounds, we don’t have to check passengers against the no fly list.
So yes, he could charter, but coming out of Hawaii he’s going to need a large private jet, like a Gulfstream, (about $6,000 per flight hour) which is well over 12,500 pounds.


20 posted on 10/17/2012 2:09:26 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: zeugma; Strategerist
>>If you read the article, he's a 9/11 "Truther."
>
>... and that is relevant to the fact that the US government is denying him the right to travel because?...

Because it casts the god that is the State into a bad light; no one can be allowed to even question the rightness of the Actions of the State.
(This is why Fast & Furious has resulted only in kabuki theater.)

21 posted on 10/17/2012 2:57:50 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: redreno

Welcome to the USSA, comrades.


22 posted on 10/17/2012 3:17:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: redreno

Welcome to the USSA, comrades.


23 posted on 10/17/2012 3:18:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: redreno; duffee; onyx; DrewsMum; Tupelo; mstar; jdirt; Vietnam Vet From New Mexico; wardaddy; ...

Mississippi ping


24 posted on 10/17/2012 3:32:08 PM PDT by WKB (After 4 years of Obama I am ready for a little R and R!!)
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To: Strategerist
If you read the article, he's a 9/11 "Truther."

And if you read the rest of the article:

Hicks was puzzled as well, as he has no criminal record or outstanding warrants. He explained that he is a former Department of Defense (DoD) contractor who has also passed extensive background checks to receive an enhanced concealed carry license. In addition, he holds a Transportation Workers Identification Credential (TWIC), a security card issued by the TSA for transportation personnel. However, none of these factors allowed him to get back on his flight, or take another flight home.

You'll also find that his wife is a US Navy lieutenant, stationed in Japan. He was enroute to visit her when he was escorted off the plane in Hawaii.

I may not agree with his politics, but this is ridiculous. The TSA won't tell him why he is on the no-fly list. If it is indeed because he has simply expressed opposition to government actions or government legislation, then almost everyone here on Free Republic had better hope JimRob doesn't get served with a National Security Letter demanding any information he has about the identity of posters.

25 posted on 10/17/2012 6:23:20 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: redreno
Longer article here:

“Sir, you must come with us”

26 posted on 10/17/2012 6:27:49 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: redreno

You shouldn’t believe something just because it’s in prinit or on a fancy Internet site. This whole story simply doesn’t make sense. I smell a hoax.

(Maybe it’s a publicity stunt by a truther who wants to drive traffic to his website and/or to his radio talk show.)


27 posted on 10/17/2012 6:39:32 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: GraceG

I think Wade Hicks’s name got him caught up in Homeland Security’s Gun And Bible Clinging Rednecks, Hicks and Crackers dragnet.


29 posted on 10/17/2012 8:16:56 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Travis McGee
There are some truthers whose beliefs stem not from a legit disagreement with the gov but from an irrational affinity for palestinian jihadis.

Don't see vidence of that here but it's possible he has been doing a little more than he says.

If he has the cred he says he has I'm more concerned a truther could get a clearance, because they are kooks.

There was a case of a jihad sympathizer marrying an Australian Navy female some years ago; he was using her to get info and such to hit a military base down under; I wonder how long he's been married to this LT.

Of course, it's possible that the Feds have been looking for a suspected or known terrorist who has in the past used the name "Wade Hicks" as an alias. The guy's identity could have been stolen; if I recall correctly that is a cause of other false alarms with the TSA.

30 posted on 10/17/2012 8:37:37 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Travis McGee

My mistake- it wasn’t Australian Navy it was the army. The terrorist was Willie Brigitte and he married the Australian army gal who also happened to be a Jewish lesbian who after serving in East Timor converted to Islam and changed her name. Weird story but it ties into a lot of other people who were arrested in the US in terror charity cases and VA jihad.


31 posted on 10/17/2012 8:46:05 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Travis McGee

The aussie woman, before she joined the Army and went to East Timor as a peacekeeper, was involved with the Australian Air training Corps as a corporal. One of the targets Willie Brigitte took a deep interest in was a US low frequency antennae installed at a place called Pine Gap, and some of the investigators thought his intention was to get hi hands on her savings and use her as a suicide bomber against the target- she was emotionally unstable and he was manipulative.


32 posted on 10/17/2012 8:53:52 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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That was part of the Sydney cell which was into this :

OCTOBER 25, 2003 : (AUSTRALIA : LODHI IS SEEN PUTTING AN ENVELOPE IN A TRASH BIN - IT CONTAINED 37 PAGES OF AERIAL PHOTOS OF SYDNEY DEFENSE ESTABLISHMENTS, THE HMAS PENGUIN NAVAL BASE, HOLSWORTHY ARMY BASE AND VICTORIA BARRACKS-— See SYDNEY CELL, LeT) On October 25 last year [03], Lodhi was seen depositing an A4 envelope in a rubbish bin at a public reserve. It was found to contain 37 pages of aerial photographs of Sydney defence establishments, the HMAS Penguin naval base, Holsworthy army base and the Victoria barracks. -—— “Pakistani terror suspect had bomb plans,” afp via Dailytimes, Pakistan, Dec 15?, 2004 Posted on 12/14/2004 3:02:49 PM PST by milestogo


33 posted on 10/17/2012 8:57:29 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Travis McGee; piasa; WKB; Byron_the_Aussie

Wasn’t there an Aussie terrorist with the last name of Hicks in Gitmo? I remember Byron being upset that Hicks was “suffering” in the tropical weather during our winter.

Back in the day...not long after the original 9/11.


34 posted on 10/18/2012 12:04:16 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I can see November from my house! dc2k circa 2010)
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To: Travis McGee; piasa; WKB; Byron_the_Aussie

David Hicks.


35 posted on 10/18/2012 12:09:33 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (I can see November from my house! dc2k circa 2010)
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To: OneWingedShark
Because it casts the god that is the State into a bad light; no one can be allowed to even question the rightness of the Actions of the State. (This is why Fast & Furious has resulted only in kabuki theater.)

Indeed. There is that. It is sad, how far we've fallen.

36 posted on 10/18/2012 6:04:49 AM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: justlurking
You'll also find that his wife is a US Navy lieutenant, stationed in Japan. He was enroute to visit her when he was escorted off the plane in Hawaii.

I may not agree with his politics, but this is ridiculous. The TSA won't tell him why he is on the no-fly list.

A blatant violation of the 6th amendment.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Unless you want to claim it's not a criminal prosecution... in which case the 5th is still being violated:
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

37 posted on 10/18/2012 6:45:25 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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