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Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released...
Daily Mail ^ | October 13, 2012 | By David Rose

Posted on 10/14/2012 9:40:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago, according to new data released last week.

The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists, reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012,there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures.

This means that the ‘plateau’ or ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose,1980 to 1996. Before that, temperatures had been stable or declining for about 40 years.

The new data, compiled from more than 3,000 measuring points on land and sea, was issued quietly on the internet, without any media fanfare,and,until today,it has not been reported.

This stands in sharp contrast to the release of the previous figures six months ago,which went only to the end of 2010–a very warm year.

Ending the data then means it is possible to show a slight warming trend since 1997,but 2011 and the first eight months of 2012 were much cooler, and thus this trend is erased.

Some climate scientists, such as Professor Phil Jones,director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia,last week dismissed the significance of the plateau,saying that 15 or 16 years is too short a period from which to draw conclusions.

Others disagreed. Professor Judith Curry,who is the head of the climate science department at America’s prestigious Georgia Tech university, told The Mail on Sunday that it was clear that the computer models used to predict future warming were ‘deeply flawed’.

Even Prof Jones admitted that he and his colleagues did not understand the impact of ‘natural variability’–factors such as long-term ocean temperature cycles and changes in the output of the sun. However,he said he was still convinced that the current decade would end up significantly warmer than the previous two.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: climatechange; environment; globalgovernance; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gorebullwarming; green; jameshansen
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1 posted on 10/14/2012 9:40:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Aggregate global temperatures” is a meaningless concept in the first place.


2 posted on 10/14/2012 9:44:08 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, you have to hand it to AL Gore. He’s that good.


3 posted on 10/14/2012 9:44:21 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Interesting since I saw a Time Magazine today with a shot of some penguins on a small ice float with a caption of “Global Warming”. Yet their online collection of covers do not show this.


4 posted on 10/14/2012 9:47:40 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 8 yr old son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s articles like this that give me a boost of faith that the lies and deception can be overcome.

In this case it’s feels like another “Who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes” moment.


5 posted on 10/14/2012 9:49:10 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SierraWasp; tubebender; steelie

Reality, when it is published, often is very embarassing to the liars of the left like the anti America Enviro Terrorists.

6 years ago a younger relative returned to wino country to work in the wine industry. At that time, he was warned that due to Gorebull warming, in 5-10 years there would be no viable vineyards in Califonia. Oregone would become the premium wine grape growing center for about a decade until Gorbull warming took over them. Then Washington would become the premium wine grape growing center until Gorebull warming criped Washington and the grape growers moved to British Columbia.

The reality is that the grape growing seasons in wino country is now shorter and the average temps are down for the past 5 years. Harvest time for premium reds is later each year and shorter due to the colder days at the end of the shorter season.


6 posted on 10/14/2012 9:50:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Some climate scientists, such as Professor Phil Jones,director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia,last week dismissed the significance of the plateau,saying that 15 or 16 years is too short a period from which to draw conclusions.

This from the same folks who will point to a warm month or season as ironclad proof of global warming.

7 posted on 10/14/2012 9:51:26 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: The Working Man

Considering the fact that the data are massaged to “account” for global warming, in other words fudged to get the desired result, mean global temperature has probably actually decreased in the last 16 years.


8 posted on 10/14/2012 9:54:36 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ( Message to President Obama: Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

‘Professor’ Michael Mann of Penn State University is sourly pissed. His decaades of painstaking manipulation, selective sourcing, and hiding of data has been undone!

Oh, the humanity! Are there no more trees left to cut and examine?


9 posted on 10/14/2012 9:57:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: dirtboy

yeah...the CRU ‘cleaned house’ kicked ass and took names. The same bastard who colluded with Michael Mann (PSU) and that NASA puke, Hansen, has the effrontery to state that 15 years of data are not sufficient? It is more than the collective cherry picked data they used.... F@ck off Jones.


10 posted on 10/14/2012 10:01:43 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In general it was positive. You still have to read and discern carefully. Look at this picture and the caption:


Damage: Global warming has been caused in part by the CO2 emitted by fossil fuels. This image shows smoke billowing out of a power station.

While the caption is technically true (sort of), in that on the left side are two tall smaller-diameter stacks with smoke exiting the tops (hardly "billowing"). The remaining 90% of the picture shows cooling towers with water vapor leaving the top. So, in my humble opinion, the caption is very misleading.

11 posted on 10/14/2012 10:02:42 AM PDT by NonLinear (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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“This means that the ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996”


Wrong. Warmists have claimed temps. have been increasing (with temporary pauses or downswings) ever since the beginning of the industrial revolution.


12 posted on 10/14/2012 10:03:48 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Some climate scientists, such as Professor Phil Jones,director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia,last week dismissed the significance of the plateau,saying that 15 or 16 years is too short a period from which to draw conclusions.

But that's been 16 years of the very hightest levels of eeeeevil SUV's belching C02 in the history of man. And 16 years with no doubt the highest number of eeeeevil light bulbs burning ever...and cows farting.....and people exhaling and......

How could all this horrible human activity be going on and not having an impact? Hmmmmm??????????

13 posted on 10/14/2012 10:04:31 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Obama will fight for Big Bird with one hand and flip the bird to America with the other.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Time to celebrate!
Feed a cow spicy chili.
Burn leaves in yard. Careful toxic fumes
Take the long way to supermarket.


14 posted on 10/14/2012 10:05:10 AM PDT by Morris70
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Does that mean that the CAGW alarmists have finally jawboned the climate into compliance with their visions?


15 posted on 10/14/2012 10:06:23 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The climate nazis have two goals:

1. Keep the scam alive so that the massive waste of taxpayer dollars/pounds/euros will continue.

2. Convince the stupid people that’s it’s real in order to advance their political agenda.

They will ignore, debunk, or marginalize any inconvenient facts that pop up along the way.


16 posted on 10/14/2012 10:07:44 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: NonLinear

Yabut the casual view of the pic is that it is of some smoking part of Hell.


17 posted on 10/14/2012 10:08:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"It's Not Over Until I Say It's Over !!!!


18 posted on 10/14/2012 10:10:34 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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To: chessplayer

The heat from CO2 is still being collected somewhere where it can’t be found, but once released will fry everyone. Mark my words.


19 posted on 10/14/2012 10:10:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DManA

btt


20 posted on 10/14/2012 10:10:53 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: DManA
The "system" under study has never been precisely defined.

It's an elephant described by people voluntarily wearing blinders.

21 posted on 10/14/2012 10:15:39 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NonLinear

Interesting picture and caption. I guess we will never know whether the person who wrote that caption was ignorant or intentionally deceptive. Certainly, most people who look at the picture would be easily deceived into thinking that was smoke.


22 posted on 10/14/2012 10:17:34 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The figures, which have triggered debate among climate scientists

LOL!

Real scientists don't debate 'facts'.

23 posted on 10/14/2012 10:21:25 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; AdmSmith; ...

Thanks Cincinatus’ Wife.


24 posted on 10/14/2012 10:33:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MamaTexan

It was just a way to distribute dollars to a few....


25 posted on 10/14/2012 10:35:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Grampa Dave; Paladin2; Rocky; WhiskeyX; BwanaNdege; Sherman Logan; MrB; justa-hairyape; ...

It would be interesting to see if anyone has a consistent record of temperatures , growing season dates and lengths in the Wino region....not sure if one of the Universities would be reputable enough to trust their records.


26 posted on 10/14/2012 10:37:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Grampa Dave; Paladin2; Rocky; WhiskeyX; BwanaNdege; Sherman Logan; MrB; ...

It would be interesting to see if anyone has a consistent record of temperatures , growing season dates and lengths in the Wino region....not sure if one of the Universities would be reputable enough to trust their records.


27 posted on 10/14/2012 10:39:21 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: MamaTexan

Real scientists are skeptics. These climate warming fanatics are not scientists. They are polemicists. They finesse data to comport with their thesis.


28 posted on 10/14/2012 10:43:29 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: MamaTexan
Real scientists don't debate 'facts'.

I was taught that scientists are always trying to disprove theories. By trying to disprove them they end up providing support for them.

Global warming science is the opposite. Global warming scientists are always trying to find ways to support the theory. When any contrary evidence is provided, these scientists work hard to discredit anything that would shed negatively on their precious theory.

29 posted on 10/14/2012 10:47:11 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

DUH! My bill for winter clothing could prove that. I have to scrape the frost off of my TV screen to see the newest news on globull warming you keep talking about. Until palm trees and pineapples grow north of 45 degrees latitude outside of a greenhouse, these people are full of shit!.


30 posted on 10/14/2012 10:47:30 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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Oh NOOoooooooooooo!

The poor polar bears! They'll probably freeze to death or at least won't have anywhere to swim.

Oh, the humanity!

31 posted on 10/14/2012 11:03:42 AM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Well, you have to hand it to AL Gore. He’s that good.

just like professor Harold Hill in the Music Man

32 posted on 10/14/2012 11:06:00 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (The)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wish I’d invented the “climate change is America’s fault” scam.

Hmm! It’s a wee bit warmer today than it was last year, or a hundred, or a thousand years ago! Evil Americans! Give me money!

Oh, dear! It’s a wee bit cooler today than it was last year, or a hundred, or a thousand years ago! Bad citizens! Cut me a check!


33 posted on 10/14/2012 11:10:32 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think that sometime in the last five years or so, a well known statistician/physicist(?) made a well received commentary that 17 years was an appropriate “window” for comparing temperature records. We are approaching that now, for sure. The “normal” window used by old-time climate scientists (not the dopes we have now) was well established to be 30 years.

Anyway, we are getting close to having good satellite data now for either time frame, since we’ve been collecting it since the late ‘70’s


34 posted on 10/14/2012 11:17:31 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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Even Prof Jones admitted that he and his colleagues did not understand the impact of ‘natural variability’–factors such as long-term ocean temperature cycles and changes in the output of the sun. However,he said he was still convinced that the current decade would end up significantly warmer than the previous two.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for; the evidence of things not seen.

He is a true believer (in a lie, of course).

35 posted on 10/14/2012 11:19:32 AM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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36 posted on 10/14/2012 11:20:19 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released...

Shhhhhhhhh. Be vewy vewy quiet. We'ew keeping sequets hewe.


37 posted on 10/14/2012 11:21:44 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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More reason why we should never get our science from Al Gore...real scientists are debunking the Global Warming Myth everyday


38 posted on 10/14/2012 11:30:10 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Izzy Dunne; All
FR thread: "SolarCity - Another Obama Scandal"

GIM: Generation Investment Management LLP co-founders: [Al Gore and David Blood [headed Goldman’s $325 billion asset management division] LINKS to their advocacy and editorials.

"The $683 million "Climate Solutions Fund" piece of GIM has made direct, minority investments in a number of cleantech firms including SolarCity, Tigo, Ausra, and SMA." Source Oct. 4, 2012 "...........Gore entered the investment world full time by co-founding Generation Investment Management [GIM], a London-based investment firm. He was the type of high-profile partner sought by Goldman Sachs executive David Blood, who had headed Goldman’s $325 billion asset management division and was looking to start a new firm. The pair launched GIM in 2004 to back companies focused on sustainability, including clean energy, water scarcity and poverty....

___________________________

....Gore also found himself to be a sought-after star among elite Silicon Valley investors. In late 2007, he became a senior investment partner at one of the world’s most successful venture capital firms, Kleiner Perkins. He was combining forces with longtime friend John Doerr in a joint mission to spur clean tech.........

As Obama was preparing to take office, it was clear his public agenda supporting clean energy aligned with Gore’s personal agenda. Obama held a highly publicized meeting with Gore at transition headquarters in Chicago to talk about energy policy. Later, Obama closely echoed several of Gore’s talking points and his plan for public investment in clean energy. Obama even adopted Gore’s campaign catchphrase for the effort, “Repower America.”

“This is a matter of urgency and national security,” Obama said. “We have the opportunity now to create jobs all across this country in all 50 states to repower America, to redesign how we use energy and . . . make us competitive for decades to come — even as we save the planet.”.....

Gore’s investments coincided with the government’s largest investment in clean tech. A full 10 percent, estimated at $80 billion to $90 billion, of the 2009 stimulus package was devoted to clean energy.......

....Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.), who chairs the Energy and Commerce Committee and is a leading critic of clean tech funding, said Gore’s portfolio “is reflective of a disturbing pattern that those closest to the president have been rewarded with billions of taxpayer dollars . . . and benefited from the administration’s green bonanza in the rush to spend stimulus cash.”......." Oct 10, 2012 [Washington Post]

39 posted on 10/14/2012 11:38:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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I have no idea why the text in Post #39 is in red.


40 posted on 10/14/2012 11:40:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Innovative

I’d call that a flat trend line.


41 posted on 10/14/2012 11:40:57 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

An awful lot of people are going to lose their very high paying jobs or maybe they won’t...too established. It’s like living with the lie that Hitler was a Catholic and a right wing extremist. It’s carved in stone.


42 posted on 10/14/2012 11:41:32 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BTW, thanks for keeping us informed. You post very informative articles which I really enjoy though don’t usually contribute. Keep up the great work.


43 posted on 10/14/2012 11:44:29 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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I have no idea why the text in Post #39 is in red.

Your link, "SolarCity - Another Obama Scandal" was not properly closed with a slash. It looks like this < a>.

44 posted on 10/14/2012 11:45:20 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You are right! (but then you knew that) I just went back and looked where I forgot something and saw the missing /. Maybe in a way it is appropriate — the watermelon has been cracked open.


45 posted on 10/14/2012 11:49:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: bronxville

You’re welcome.


46 posted on 10/14/2012 11:50:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bookmark bump


47 posted on 10/14/2012 11:53:07 AM PDT by nralife (www.fireholder.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wouldn’t want to have our wine producers accidentally have their buildings and homes burned down over this issue.


48 posted on 10/14/2012 11:58:00 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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"I have no idea why the text in Post #39 is in red."

I haven't checked the thread source code to examine your post yet, but I bet you left off the "</a>" to terminate your "Solar City" link...

49 posted on 10/14/2012 11:58:50 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Turning natural variation into a problem.


50 posted on 10/14/2012 11:59:22 AM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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