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Obama: Green energy not ‘socialist plot’
The Hill ^

Posted on 10/08/2012 9:09:14 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama: Green energy not ‘socialist plot’ By Ben Geman - 10/08/12 09:59 AM ET

President Obama quipped Sunday night that energy efficiency initiatives are not a “socialist plot” in remarks that contrasted his energy policies with rival Mitt Romney’s.

The president, fundraising in Los Angeles, addressed energy during a $25,000-per-plate dinner with backers that included actor George Clooney.

“On energy, I’m big on oil and gas, and developing clean coal technology, but I also believe that if we’re ever going to have control of our energy future, then we’ve got to invest in solar and wind and biofuels, and that it does make sense for us to double our fuel-efficiency standards on cars,” Obama said, according to a White House transcript.

“And that's not a socialist plot for us to reduce our energy usage,” Obama said to laughter, according to the transcript. “It’s the smart thing to do. It’s right for our national energy. It’s right for our economy. It’s right for the environment. [Romney] disagrees.”

Obama didn’t get specific about Romney's alleged disagreement.

But the GOP nominee in late August bashed new auto mileage rules for model years 2017-2025 that will ultimately require automakers to build cars and light trucks with a fleet-wide average of 54.5 miles-per-gallon.

Romney, through a spokeswoman, called the standards “extreme,” and said they will “limit the choices available to American families.”

The Romney campaign also emphasized the higher up-front costs of the vehicles, while the Obama administration touted savings in fuel costs over time and reduced oil consumption. (Click here for much more on the rules.)

While energy efficiency programs often have bipartisan support, various federal standards have drawn pushback from some Republicans who call them undue federal intrusion into consumer choices.

House Republicans, over the last two years, have sought to roll back lightbulb efficiency standards contained in a bipartisan 2007 energy law.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012issues; bhoenergy; bhofascism; bhosocialism; envirowhackos; greenfraud; greens; obama; youlie
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1 posted on 10/08/2012 9:09:16 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Of course it’s a freaking Socialist plot.


2 posted on 10/08/2012 9:10:15 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Sub-Driver

Green energy is a socialist plot. Duly noted, Mr. Liar.


3 posted on 10/08/2012 9:12:53 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ha! The socialist plot telling us it’s not a socialist plot.

To quote Col. Potter, “Mule cookies.”


4 posted on 10/08/2012 9:13:17 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: babble-on

It’s possible to not know that it’s a socialist plot,
it’s possible to believe it’s not a socialist plot.

It’s possible to be a useful idiot who wants to feel good about himself for caring about the “erf” and wanting “green” energy that “doesn’t hurt the erf”.

But 0bama is not in one of the above categories. He knows that “green energy” is a vehicle to advance global communism and enrich his supporters with taxpayer money in the process.


5 posted on 10/08/2012 9:13:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes it is, you gelded bullsh!t maker.


6 posted on 10/08/2012 9:15:40 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama loved the poor so much, he created millions more.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Mr. Big Talker comes up with silly rebuttals days after the debate. He is making himself look even more pathetic, if that’s possible.


7 posted on 10/08/2012 9:16:20 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Romney vs Obama, Round One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyNxHOZiQPA)
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To: Sub-Driver

Uh, “big on oil”, what for french fries?


8 posted on 10/08/2012 9:16:30 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He should tout the energy saved from people not driving to their former jobs.


9 posted on 10/08/2012 9:16:41 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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If it wasn’t a Socialist Plot then “WE” wouldn’t have to “invest” in it at all! People looking to make a profit would gladly handle that.


10 posted on 10/08/2012 9:17:12 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Sub-Driver

How about a Marxist plot?


11 posted on 10/08/2012 9:17:21 AM PDT by maggief
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To: MrB

I don’t know about global communism, I can even see “green energy” as a way (a misguided, incredibly expensive way) of reducing our dependence on energy produced by the world’s worst dictatorships,

but definitely it was primarily a way to funnel government resources to an inefficient wasteful industry, in the most inefficient and wasteful conceivable fashion possible, unsecured lending.


12 posted on 10/08/2012 9:17:35 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Sub-Driver
I also believe that if we’re ever going to have control of our energy future, then we’ve got to invest in solar and wind and biofuels, and that it does make sense for us to double our fuel-efficiency standards on cars,” Obama said, according to a White House transcript.

“And that's not a socialist plot for us to reduce our energy usage,”

If the government controls the means of production, and it is the government's responsibility to decide how they are to be used, then it is a form of socialism.

13 posted on 10/08/2012 9:17:45 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Vince Ferrer
He should tout the energy saved from people not driving to their former jobs.

Best laugh of the day here. Thanks for posting that.

14 posted on 10/08/2012 9:18:38 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Sub-Driver

Well it certainly is a fraud, scam, and excuse to loot the public trough.


15 posted on 10/08/2012 9:18:51 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Sub-Driver

No its actually more of a fascist scam that even Hitler would have found stupid.


16 posted on 10/08/2012 9:19:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Sub-Driver
The socialists push the idea and then the well intentioned people who listen to them create something that often goes out of control. One such glaring example is The EPA
17 posted on 10/08/2012 9:19:47 AM PDT by Baynative
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To: babble-on

“reducing our dependence on foreign energy”
is another excuse they provide to people who WANT to believe that’s the goal.

If that wasn’t a lie, then we’d be developing our own “fossil fuel” resources in our country like gangbusters. It’s exposed as a lie, or a false goal, by the fact that he’s shutting down all domestic sources of energy development.


18 posted on 10/08/2012 9:20:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, it’s sure not an economic miracle either!

Unless, you consider losing trillions of dollars but getting reelected a miracle.


19 posted on 10/08/2012 9:21:47 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Sub-Driver
It's a way of distributing money to friends, supporters and enablers.


20 posted on 10/08/2012 9:23:24 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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