Skip to comments.Union: Border agents opened fire on each other [Nick Ivie death]
Posted on 10/07/2012 5:28:46 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
PHOENIX (AP) The U.S. Border Patrol agent killed last week in a shooting in southern Arizona apparently opened fire on two fellow agents thinking they were armed smugglers and was killed when they returned fire, the head of the Border Patrol agents' union said Sunday.
The two sets of agents approached an area where a sensor had been activated early Tuesday from different directions early Tuesday and encountered each other in an area of heavy brush, National Border Patrol Council president George McCubbin said.
Agent Nicholas Ivie apparently opened fire first and wounded one of the other agents but was killed in the return fire.
"I don't know what it was he saw or heard that triggered this whole event," McCubbin said. "Unfortunately it resulted in his death and another agent injured."
Acting Cochise County Sheriff Rod Rothrock confirmed the scenario but would not say if Ivie was the first to shoot, saying that was up to the federal agencies involved.
The new details add to a FBI statement Friday that the shooting appeared to be a friendly fire incident that involved no one but the agents.
Sensors are set up in different areas along the U.S.-Mexico border to detect smugglers or illegal immigrants, with Border Patrol agents responding when they're set off. The shooting occurred in a rugged hilly area about five miles north of the border near Bisbee, Ariz., an area known for illegal trafficking.
McCubbin and Rothrock both said the two sets of agents knew the others were heading to the area on foot but apparently didn't know they were so close. McCubbin said he'd been briefed by the agency, while Rothrock's agency has been involved with the investigation.
"It was dark, very, very rugged terrain, and what they could see of each other was further..."
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No kidding!!! The very idea that these two “groups” were not communicating and each knowing where the other is does not make a lick of sense!
BTW thats some union you got there, using the reputation of the dead agent to cover this administration's *ss.
I don’t care who came up with this, I still thinl it’s a lie.
I bet it was a video.
The last time we saw a death “investigation” wrap up so fast was...a couple weeks ago when Chris Stevens died of smoke asphyxiation because his Libyan “friends” couldn’t carry him to the hospital fast enough to save him.
Race war within the border patrol? I know one of them was white..
Just another Obama cover up. Move along.
I think the first part is correct. Wonder how much this tale is costing?
1. It was a government gun-running operation, not a gun-smuggling investigation.
2. Conveniently omitted is the fact that this killing took place at the station named for the last agent killed on the border, Brian Terry.
Now why would you exclude such a fascinating detail from your story, AP? Because it makes the cover-story that much more implausible, perhaps?
Why did they have live ammo?
Died of a bean bag bullet??
I don’t believe it. These people are in continuing radio contact and just don’t start shooting. Remember they have to warn them in seven languages and then plead with them to cooperate and then they must take a lot of gunfire before they can perform defensive fire to cover their retreat. Sounds like some gun running, smuggling, sex slave trafficking, or money laundering gone wrong.
First they said only three agents were involved and now there were four? Who was the fourth?
“In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, the Border Patrol and other federal and local agencies flooded the area with personnel looking for who they believed were assailants who had attacked the agents.”
“’That was the initial reports from the beginning,’ McCubbin said. ‘That was the reason for the saturation manhunt there. They even had permission to fly into Mexico. They were seeking people out. What this was based on, we’d have to assume it was based on the initial statements given by the agents on the scene.’”
makes even LESS sense.
Ha. They’re actively seeking out border agents who have gone off shooting at each other with ammo they don’t have.
Chaos agents, obviously. They need to get Smart. Or Smart needs to get them first.
McCubbin and Rothrock both said the two sets of agents knew the others were heading to the area on foot
"A visitation was to be held in Sierra Vista, Ariz., on Sunday night for Ivie, who is survived by his wife and two young daughters.
His funeral is set for Monday morning."
Autopsy conducted? Bullet recovery/identification?
Hmmmm....I wonder if Agent Nicholas Ivie had any possible connection to âFast and Furiousâ...Just a thought
Another huge lie from the administration! Convenient thAt the shooter was shot himself. Wow the lengths to which thse people will go to avoid a touchy subject at election time is unparalleled.
Not buying it!
Another coverup--piling sand on a fresh pile of excrement so the smell will not emanate from this admin. before the election.
Anything mentioned about Night Visor Goggles?
Bunch of liars, telling lies.
Evidently the Sinaloa boys are getting cover from the BP? I find that hard to believe.
It sure does. I read that Soros was quietly buying the gun companies out. Why is he being allowed to do this? Got Marlin Firearms [is closing it’s doors] Got this in an email
THIS GUY SOROS IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS THAN OBAMA, WHO IS SIMPLY ONE OF HIS “DOG ROBBERS” OBAMA WILL BE GONE AFTER AWHILE, BUT WHAT WILL BE LEFT IS WHAT SOROS & HIS CRONIES WANT.
The best way to take away the guns, is to buy all the companies. Read on. Another sneaky underhanded job by Obama.
Read and Weep
Marlin Firearms is already closing its doors!
They are doing it to us, America! Even if you do not own a gun you need to know this. This needs to be spread to all gun owners and sportsman. We cannot rely on the media to inform us of these types of matters.
Something You May Not Know That Is Happening ... Who is buying companies, manufacturing guns??? For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of the companies are Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R.
Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States. If you control the manufacturers you can decide to
stop selling to civilians.
What a perfect way to control guns. Now if you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management. Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS!!! He wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out. Why have we not heard about this in the “mainstream” media? I would think this would be BIG news. (Soros also owns Progressive Insurance). If you don’t know who George Soros is, you need to do some Research. He backed Obama with millions of dollars and Obama is a puppet on a string controlled by Soros. Send this to every gun owner in America.
Just found out this may not be true.
You are true Red, White, and Blue. Thank You!
SandRat — I so agree with you, from the first time I heard the “rumor” to the “confirmations” I saw yesterday. All the news does is lie to us — from the headlines to the weather. I just about don’t believe anything they (or what they were spoon-fed by the goobt) tell us anymore.
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