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Plouffe: We expected aggressive Mitt, not 'fundamentally dishonest' Mitt
politico44 ^ | 10/4/12 | DONOVAN SLACK

Posted on 10/04/2012 1:23:18 PM PDT by ColdOne

Top aide David Plouffe suggested on Thursday that Team Obama was caught off guard by the "remarkable" level of "dishonesty" displayed by Mitt Romney during the debate.

~~SNIP~~

"Going forward, one of the things we're going to have to address is that dishonesty," Plouffe said. "It's hard to remember a time in American politics where you had someone who's a major nominee for the presidency being that fundamentally dishonest about core parts of his campaign platform."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates
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1 posted on 10/04/2012 1:23:22 PM PDT by ColdOne
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puffeee forgot to mention taking out Big Bird. I really despise these life forms.


2 posted on 10/04/2012 1:24:39 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: ColdOne

Hooray! More BS!


3 posted on 10/04/2012 1:26:24 PM PDT by inkfarmer
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To: ColdOne

Translation: “We are going to fight dirtier than anyone ever has in the next few weeks.”


4 posted on 10/04/2012 1:27:50 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: ColdOne

The spin is making me dizzy.


5 posted on 10/04/2012 1:28:08 PM PDT by Calpublican
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To: ColdOne

So many “lies” and Obama couldn’t pick out a single one during the debate. Hmm.

Of course, these kind of “help the prez” articles are the ones actually filled with the lies.


6 posted on 10/04/2012 1:29:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ColdOne

I’d pay good money, and throw in a body part or two, to see a video of Obama’s inner circle discussing last nights disaster.


7 posted on 10/04/2012 1:30:12 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: ColdOne
"It's hard to remember a time in American politics where you had someone who's a major nominee for the presidency being that fundamentally dishonest about core parts of his campaign platform"

Well then your memory must be truly awful. One only needs to recall the Dim nominee just four short years ago.

8 posted on 10/04/2012 1:32:57 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: ColdOne
That these people are so predictable does not make them any less detestable...
9 posted on 10/04/2012 1:33:29 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfwklFM-M


10 posted on 10/04/2012 1:33:33 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ColdOne

Hello, Mr. Pfluffle, it was a debate; if Mr. Romney said anything that was untrue it was up to Obama to refute it then and there. Instead he stood by in a daze while Romney told the country flatly that Obama was going to cut $700billion from Medicare, didn’t even know the law regarding shipping jobs overseas, and was telling untruths about Romney’s tax plans - and O said nothing.......


11 posted on 10/04/2012 1:34:15 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: ColdOne

They’re going to use “framing” to try to create the impression in the minds of “low-information voters” that Romney told nothing but lies during the debate, that this is commonly known by all the “smart people,” and that Romney’s performance therefore means nothing.

This is kind of like what they did with the word “swiftboating.” They - and their media enablers - have tried to turn that word into a synonym for “successfully undermine by lying.”

George Lakoff (rhymes with).


12 posted on 10/04/2012 1:34:56 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Now the leftist freaks I know will start telling me Romney is “dishonest” and pretend that they thought of it themselves.


13 posted on 10/04/2012 1:35:51 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: ColdOne

All Romney has to say all day is “Look up the facts for yourself”

Liars calling him a Liar are very stupid. If there is one thing America wont buy is that Saint Mitt the Bishop (yes he is an actual Bishop in his church) is a liar- but Mitt needs to STRESS THAT All day

Make the contrast with Obama obvious- “ONE of us is a liar, alright...” and leave it at that

This will embed the impression Mitt is Honest and Obama AND HIS ENTIRE CREW are lying a$$holes.


14 posted on 10/04/2012 1:37:23 PM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: ColdOne
Later, Plouffe tweeted this message...


15 posted on 10/04/2012 1:37:33 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: ColdOne
Top aide David Plouffe

How can you take any accusations or threats seriously when they are made by a guy(?) name Plouffe?

16 posted on 10/04/2012 1:37:51 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping, gay bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO!)
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To: ColdOne

If I could get my hands on this slimy little creep it wouldn’t be pretty.


17 posted on 10/04/2012 1:38:04 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: ColdOne
There is no way around it - Mitt is a bully.


18 posted on 10/04/2012 1:40:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro (A bisexual Muslim is one who owns both a camel AND a goat.)
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To: ColdOne

The Left is free falling, like always when their theft and failed racial and economic ideas reach reality.

Plouffe, Yahoo! and the rest of the MSLSD complex are freaking out...

They know there will be a fight they might lose, but don’t forget the Bulge when we thought the Nazis were about to surrender.


19 posted on 10/04/2012 1:41:40 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: ColdOne

This line of spin, clearly coordinated based on the numerous leftist media outlets running with it, can be effective and worries me. Many of the sheep want to hate the rich White Guy, who they believe has ill-gotten wealth. This meme gives them cover — “He’s a lying rich White Guy. It might look like he beat our man, but only because he’s duplicitous.”


20 posted on 10/04/2012 1:41:56 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: ColdOne

Translation: Prevarication is OUR job.


21 posted on 10/04/2012 1:42:02 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Olog-hai
Obama started lying in the first minute of the debate. For instance “The auto industry is roaring back.” Last time I checked, US auto sales were a bit anemic, the Volt was out of production, and GM was sliding slowly back into bankruptcy.
22 posted on 10/04/2012 1:42:11 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: ColdOne
obama could counter a lie but he is disarmed by the truth and you are a liar plouffe and **** you plouffe!
23 posted on 10/04/2012 1:44:02 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("If it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: ColdOne

It must be so difficult for these libs after they have worked so hard to portray Romney as they want and then the real deal shows up unfiltered. Yikes. The audience sees for themselves and all these libs scream, “He lied.” Ain’t selling guys.

I love how these MSMers and Obama campaigners (indistinguishable) when they take a tiny quote and create a whole distorted story line such as the 47% event.


24 posted on 10/04/2012 1:45:45 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: ColdOne

I thought only Tree-House Al Gore came with Debatamatic programmable personas.

*Click* He’s “invade your personal space” Alpha Al! (with Kung-fu grip!)

*Click* Sighing Al!

*Click* Orange Skin Slicked Back Al! (How did that get in there?)


25 posted on 10/04/2012 1:50:59 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: ColdOne

Actually it’s not hard to remember at all, if you can only remember the last thing Obozo said.


26 posted on 10/04/2012 1:53:14 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: ColdOne

Apparently, this is going to be the talking points as a result of Romney’s whooparse on Obozo last night.

Bammy was leading the charge this morning at a rally in Denver...calling Romney a liar. This is all they have.

If Romney was lying why didn’t Obama point out his lies last night? Because, when you lie as much as Obama does, you don’t know the truth from your lies. Clearly, Obozo doesn’t have a clue and all he can do is lie.


27 posted on 10/04/2012 1:54:10 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: wideawake

I knew that was coming. Hussein is a bully and doesn’t understand the difference between being aggressive in making your point and using ad hominem insults. I’m sure Romney’s advisors are well aware of that and preparing for it.

Obozo”I won” “If they bring a knife, we bring a gun”. “Get in their faces”


28 posted on 10/04/2012 1:55:47 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

His name sounds like a descriptor of the sound a f@rt makes when one has eaten a few two many been burritos.


29 posted on 10/04/2012 1:56:14 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!r)
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To: ColdOne

Oh, to see a bounce for that rat.

On the end of a rope.


30 posted on 10/04/2012 1:57:12 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: ColdOne
"fundamentally dishonest"

That's it - that's the "Narrative" that the Dems and the MSM decided on after the debate. You will be hearing it hundreds of times.

31 posted on 10/04/2012 1:58:40 PM PDT by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: BlueStateRightist

It doesn’t worry me. Romney’s had to deal with that meme from the start.


32 posted on 10/04/2012 1:58:40 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: ColdOne

The psychiatric term is “projection”.


33 posted on 10/04/2012 1:59:25 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ColdOne

To paraphrase the Kingfish: Do the name 2008 ring a familiar note?


34 posted on 10/04/2012 1:59:25 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: mrsmel
In the words of Col. Jessep:

Please tell me that you have something more, Lieutenant.
or
You want the truth? You can't handle the truty...

35 posted on 10/04/2012 2:02:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
DANG!!!

truth.

36 posted on 10/04/2012 2:03:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

When Hussein starts with the personal attacks, I wish Romney could say something to remind people of Obozo’s “knife/gunfight” phrase, or his “get in their faces”. Something to remind people of Obozo’s double standard-he can dish it out but he can’t take it. The classic bully coward.


37 posted on 10/04/2012 2:07:37 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: ColdOne

So tired of blame, excuses, ridicule, name-calling. So ready to hear what Americans truly deserve: the truth.


38 posted on 10/04/2012 2:09:19 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: ColdOne
I see a pattern developing - the republican beats the snot out of the democrat in straight up debate, after the republican leaves the stage the democrat (and the media toads) cry 'liar'.

If the republican is lying so brazenly in debate I expect the democrat to call them on it and demand they explain themselves immediately.

39 posted on 10/04/2012 2:09:36 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: mrsmel
I agree 100%. But truthfully (HA) Obie and Company's response is simply childish and needs to be dismissed as such. Rommey’s team has been pretty good at responding to Obie, Axelrod, Plouffe’s adolescent rants. This is just one more.
40 posted on 10/04/2012 2:13:12 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: ColdOne

The talking points have been defined by the Plouffeter.


41 posted on 10/04/2012 2:13:57 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Regardless of the complaints from plufay, the resuscitation is in the works now at SNL. No doubt at this moment, they are crafting a Romney as an angry version of Lovitz’s pathological liar (that’s the ticket). The alinsky methodology of mocking your enemy is where they are hoping to administer CPR.


42 posted on 10/04/2012 2:21:15 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Yes. I just hope Romney and team can find a way for him to walk the fine line he has to walk between not letting attacks go unchallenged and not appearing too harsh. The media leaves him little room that they can’t and won’t spin for Obozo. That’s why he gets paid the big bucks though :D


43 posted on 10/04/2012 2:24:46 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: LZ_Bayonet
The approach they will take is, when a Repub states a fact that they don't like, they will say "he's being dishonest", without saying what they think the real facts are.

The Dems can't afford to openly state their version of the facts, because then they are subject to fact-checking in an environment where they no longer control all the media.

44 posted on 10/04/2012 2:26:52 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: PapaBear3625

Let them try it. They will come off looking like this Monty Python sketch...

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=monty+python+argument&mid=5A86B8B9D7810EBAF0CD5A86B8B9D7810EBAF0CD&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1


45 posted on 10/04/2012 2:35:30 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: ColdOne

Did Mitt hurt Barry’s self-esteem? Wahhhhhhhhh....


46 posted on 10/04/2012 3:57:41 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: ColdOne

obama had plenty of chances to rebut Romney during the debate — he didn’t do it because:
1) he realized early on that Romney had his facts together and wasn’t backing down,
2) the one who feeds obama’s brain and gives him smirky overconfidence was missing (that would be the TOTUS).


47 posted on 10/04/2012 4:07:32 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia ("Together we will unite America and get this done" - Paul Ryan - August 11, 2012)
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To: ColdOne

I remember the last time — it was 4 years ago. And he’s doing it again.


48 posted on 10/04/2012 5:26:25 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ColdOne
One can say anything if one throws a "fundamentally" or a "remarkable" in there.

Set up a rhythm and a verbal density and people just nod and don't think about what one is actually actually saying.

49 posted on 10/04/2012 5:30:42 PM PDT by x
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To: Iron Munro

BWHWWAHAHAHAHA, nicely done!


50 posted on 10/04/2012 5:34:22 PM PDT by j_tull (Keep Congress Kennedy Free - Sean Bielat for Congress #MA4)
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