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State Dept. Apologizes for Turning Away Jews in WWII (VIDEO)
J Space ^ | 9/27/12 | Jspace Staff

Posted on 09/27/2012 12:54:13 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

The State Department issued an official apology to passengers of the MS St. Louis, a German steamer carrying nearly 1,000 Jewish refugees that were denied entry into the US 73 years ago.

A ceremony was held to remember those passengers, who were turned away from Cuba, America and Canada in 1939. The ship was forced back to Germany, where one-third of the refugees perished at Auschwitz.

The State Department ceremony was attended by 200 guests, including 30 Holocaust survivors. Survivors from the St. Louis were in attendance as well, sharing their story firsthand to an audience that included Deputy Secretary of State Bill Burns, Foreign Service Director General Linda Thomas-Greenfield, and Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism, Hannah Rosenthal.

As part of the ceremony a play was presented, “The Trial of FDR,” which depicts the tough choices the US made during World War II. The play is expected to perform across America as an educational tool.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: holocaust; jewishpandering; ww2
Nobody supposes this too little too late apology is a lame attempt at trying to shore up the Jewish vote do ya? This is so transparent the blind sheik could see through it. What's scary is some shmucks will fall for it.
1 posted on 09/27/2012 12:54:21 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Why only some?


2 posted on 09/27/2012 12:55:21 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: Impala64ssa

A lotta good it’s gonna do them now!


3 posted on 09/27/2012 12:56:24 PM PDT by miserare
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To: Impala64ssa

Now there’s something worth apologizing for.


4 posted on 09/27/2012 12:57:50 PM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Impala64ssa

It is amazing the ends to which these folks will go, trying to prove the Holocaust did, in fact, happen.


5 posted on 09/27/2012 12:58:07 PM PDT by upchuck (I miss my dog Snoopy. May 16, 1997-September 24, 2012 -- 15 years, 4 months. Forever in my heart.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Are the scum going to apologize to Rabbi Kahane and his family as well??

If not for him, no one would remember the St. Louis at all. But he got murdered by US muslims, with a nod and a wink from the government.


6 posted on 09/27/2012 1:00:26 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Impala64ssa

King FDR OWNS this one.


7 posted on 09/27/2012 1:03:17 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Impala64ssa

St. FDR has a lot to answer for. He made some horrible decisions, yet God gave America the victory.


8 posted on 09/27/2012 1:07:02 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Impala64ssa

Roosevelt, the Left’s god did that...................


9 posted on 09/27/2012 1:10:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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To: Impala64ssa

The Jews voted for Roosevelt by 90% in 1940, and 90% in 1944, they loved the guy.


10 posted on 09/27/2012 1:13:50 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: upchuck

Please tell me you are being sarcastic.


11 posted on 09/27/2012 1:15:38 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: Impala64ssa

OK. So how does this explain the U.S. State Department turning their backs on Jews and Israel NOW in 2012?


12 posted on 09/27/2012 1:20:23 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: ansel12
The Jews voted for Roosevelt by 90% in 1940, and 90% in 1944, they loved the guy.

For a shocking look at FDR's disregard of Jews, I recommend THIS PROGRAM. I don't see how a Jew could ever vote 'rat after FDR didn't lift a finger to help them. FDR also opposed an anti-lynching law that had broad bipartisan support. Was he a snooty Hyde Park racist?

13 posted on 09/27/2012 1:24:12 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Impala64ssa

My husband’s grandfather returned to Germany to implore his family to come with him to the US. Only one came, a young doctor. She was almost picked up as the ship was stopped by a German sub and searched for escaping Jewish people. Subsequently during her life she was chief of staff of almost all the major hospitals in Memphis.


14 posted on 09/27/2012 1:26:40 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Congrats. You’re the only FReeper so far to pick up on that. Does that say something?


15 posted on 09/27/2012 1:29:48 PM PDT by upchuck (I miss my dog Snoopy. May 16, 1997-September 24, 2012 -- 15 years, 4 months. Forever in my heart.)
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To: ArmyTeach

That speaks volumes that Hitler would waste a precious resource like a Submarine and its crew to stop and search ships for a few escaping Jews.


16 posted on 09/27/2012 1:30:51 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Impala64ssa

Apologizing for turning the Jews back and then not acknowledging the Holocaust.


17 posted on 09/27/2012 1:42:11 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama loved the poor so much, he created millions more.)
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To: upchuck

Yes, that most people don’t read the posts.

And, sadly, about every election we get inundated with nuts of all kinds, including troll Holocaust deniers, so people probably assumed you were such a troll.


18 posted on 09/27/2012 2:00:33 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: Impala64ssa
Actually they weren't forced to return to Germany. They did return to Europe where 288 were allowed to enter the UK, 224 to enter France, 214 to enter Belgium, and 181 to enter the Netherlands. That was before the outbreak of the war when no one knew that France, Belgium, and the Netherlands would soon become unsafe for Jews.

It is estimated that 709 of the passengers survived and 227 died. No help to FDR. Apparently the Dominican Republic was willing to accept the Jews but for some reason the captain did not try to go there after being turned away by Cuba.

19 posted on 09/27/2012 2:03:08 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Impala64ssa
The Holocaust could not have happened without the enthusiastic support of the people of the occupied countries. It was the mother of all pogroms. They led the Germans to the Jews. The murdering collaborators outnumbered the Schindlers many times to one.

Jewish refugees were turned away by so-called 'civilized' nations and sent to their deaths. Read the stories just today on "Inspector Dreyfus" actor Herbert Lom (RIP) and the fate of his girlfriend Didi when she was turned away at the port of Dover on the eve the German invasion of Czechoslovakia.

20 posted on 09/27/2012 2:19:54 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: Verginius Rufus
It is estimated that 709 of the passengers survived and 227 died. No help to FDR. Apparently the Dominican Republic was willing to accept the Jews but for some reason the captain did not try to go there after being turned away by Cuba.

First I have heard of this

21 posted on 09/27/2012 2:21:59 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: TheThirdRuffian; upchuck
Actually, I got the sarcasm and its parody of the deniers.

Interesting that this happened so close to the most infamous Holocaust denier on the planet addressing the UN.

22 posted on 09/27/2012 2:30:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Impala64ssa

I remember seeing a movie based on this. Anyone recall the title?


23 posted on 09/27/2012 2:44:56 PM PDT by YankeeinOkieville (Obamanation [oh-bom-uh-nay-shuhn] n. -- ignorance and arrogance in the highest offices)
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To: Impala64ssa; fso301
When the fateful journey of the St. Louis came up on the Real Time + 70 Years project in June 1939 I started a special thread and posted all related stories there. It started on June 3. There are several follow up stories posted as replies.

The Voyage of the St. Louis, June 1939.

24 posted on 09/27/2012 2:53:39 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: YankeeinOkieville

Voyage of the Damned


25 posted on 09/27/2012 2:57:41 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: colorado tanker

St. Louis ping


26 posted on 09/27/2012 2:58:09 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: SargeK

Italy resisted collaborating (there was no persecution until Germans took over the country late in the war); Spain took in many (while being painted as a Nazi ally when they were in fact neutral).

Many people had no involvement with the murders (there is no defense for those who were involved); painting with a broad brush is no better than what the Nazis did to stir people up with generalizations about Jewish people.


27 posted on 09/27/2012 3:01:48 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: upchuck

Not posting on it doesn’t mean we didn’t catch it, it just wasn’t an interesting post.


28 posted on 09/27/2012 3:03:06 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Thanks Homer. Your SS St. Louis thread is very interesting.
29 posted on 09/27/2012 4:39:09 PM PDT by fso301
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To: shalom aleichem
OK. So how does this explain the U.S. State Department turning their backs on Jews and Israel NOW in 2012?

Because they set the precedent in 1939 with the SS St. Louis.

30 posted on 09/27/2012 5:06:54 PM PDT by fso301
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To: kearnyirish2
Yes, that sounds right. Thank You!

A well made - and when one realizes it was based on true facts - hauntingly disturbing movie.

31 posted on 09/27/2012 6:03:15 PM PDT by YankeeinOkieville (Obamanation [oh-bom-uh-nay-shuhn] n. -- ignorance and arrogance in the highest offices)
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To: kearnyirish2

And Denmark , Sweden, Hungary, Finland, Bulgaria...

Permit me to amend my charge, and to clarify. Rather than saying “people OF the occupied countries”, I should have said “(some) people IN the occupied countries”. Plus, being occupied, complicity in the atrocities cannot fairly be attributed as a policy of their governments.

The same cannot be said of the United States, Britain and Switzerland, all of whom turned their backs on Jews who did manage to escape Europe.


32 posted on 09/27/2012 6:17:51 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: YankeeinOkieville

At the end they mention that when the captain was accused of war crimes at the end of the war (they don’t clarify what they were related to), many of the surviving passengers testified on his behalf. At the time they returned to Europe, he had left them in various countries that were not occupied at that time (which should have been perfectly safe); they weren’t returned to Germany.

Very disturbing.


33 posted on 09/28/2012 2:44:20 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SargeK

I see.

I didn’t know that about Switzerland; I thought they took some refugees in. My understanding is that after the war they simply kept property of people that had died, rather than pass it along to next of kin; I don’t know how that was resolved.

At the time these countries were closing the door on Jewish refugees, I don’t think they had any idea as to what was going to happen. I would think the (very public) Nuremberg Laws of the 1930s would have been sufficient to let the people in anyway. 75 years later, I’d love to know what went on in back-room discussions that led to those decisions.


34 posted on 09/28/2012 2:49:22 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Not sure this matters. State frets about where Jews live today.

35 posted on 09/28/2012 6:19:07 AM PDT by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: Impala64ssa

Meanwhile another “steamer” full of millions of Jews awaits alone in an ocean of hostile Muslims, waiting to be torpedoed by Iran....AND OBAMA DOES NOTHING.


36 posted on 09/28/2012 9:19:18 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (I'm an Anglican (NOT an Episcopalian))
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To: Impala64ssa
On behalf of my great aunts, uncles, and cousins that I never got to meet because they were murdered at Auschwitz....(which was not a "Polish death camp", it was a Nazi death camp, regardless of what that Kenyan commie pig dropping in the White House says. None of my relatives were on the St. Louis that I know of, but I feel the need to speak for them on this issue.)

APOLOGY NOT ACCEPTED.

This stinks of politics. This isn't heart felt, if it were, Obamugabe and his brood wouldn't be treating Bibi like he was an annoying zit. This is race baiting that I reject to my very core.

As a Jew, I don't want or need phony apologies. The only thing I want is a government that respects my religious beliefs and doesn't trample all over them, by forcing me to pay for abortions, accept homosexual "marriage", etc.

The past is the past. All of the apologies in the world aren't going to right the wrong that happened to the passengers on the St. Louis, just like all the apologies in the world will never right the wrong of slavery, or how the Indians were treated, or how Americans of Japanese descent were rounded up by FDR and his goons. It's all just pandering. (Interesting side note, the Dims were on the wrong side of every issue mentioned here. Cowinkydink ? I think not.)

We would do so much better as a society if we could learn from history and stop apologizing for it. "Apologies" like these aren't meant to unite, they're designed to divide.
37 posted on 09/28/2012 9:36:24 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Nachum; Zionist Conspirator; MestaMachine; Eleutheria5

Another “You gotta see it to believe it” ping!

After booing God and Jerusalem at the DNC and treating Bibi like an annoying pimple, the Dims are now pandering to us.

Wow.


38 posted on 09/28/2012 9:44:24 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Us who? They are singing to their choir. I owe them no allegiance, and if THEY are too dense or leftist to not understand they are being made fun of and mocked, who am I to change their mind?


39 posted on 09/28/2012 10:34:59 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: MestaMachine

You got that right, MM!

OOOORAH!


40 posted on 09/28/2012 8:45:21 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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