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Poll: Four in 10 believe in Obama healthcare law ‘death panels’
The Hill ^ | 9/25/2012 | Elise Viebeck

Posted on 09/26/2012 3:29:32 PM PDT by markomalley

About four in 10 U.S. adults believe that President Obama's healthcare reform law will create "death panels" to decide patients' fitness for care, according to a new Associated Press-GfK survey.

Support for the widely challenged claim has remained steady since 2010, when 39 percent believed "death panels" would result from the healthcare law. Today, 41 percent say the same is true.

Overall, most people believe the law will go into effect in spite of Republican pledges to repeal it. About seven in 10 adults said the law will be implemented with some changes, while 11 percent believe it will be implemented as passed.

Only 12 percent say the law will be repealed — an article of faith for Republicans and the GOP presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, who says repeal would be his first move once elected.

Wednesday's poll revealed a growing sense that the healthcare law will persist in some form, but almost no change in division over the law's merits.

Thirty-two percent of adults now support the law, while 36 percent oppose it, according to the poll. The split was 30 percent in favor, 40 against in the months after healthcare reform passed in 2010.

The poll also highlighted confusion about many of the law's provisions, as just 14 percent of adults identified the law's specifics correctly and with confidence.

This confusion could explain the persistence of Sarah Palin's "death panels" claim. The former Alaska governor coined the phrase in 2009 to refer to proposed provisions of the Affordable Care Act that encouraged end-of-life planning.

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment ... whether they are worthy of healthcare," Palin wrote during debate on the bill.

Those provisions were eventually scrapped after a public outcry. But the phrase rose again when Palin used it ahead of the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the law.

In a Facebook post, she referred to the healthcare law's Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) as a "panel of faceless bureaucrats who have the power to make life and death decisions about healthcare funding."

The IPAB, widely opposed by Republicans, is a group of healthcare experts tasked with cutting Medicare payments to doctors if the program's spending grows too quickly.

The board's "purpose all along has been to 'keep costs down' by actually denying care via price controls and typically inefficient bureaucracy," Palin wrote in June.

The AP survey was conducted Aug. 3-13 and has a margin of error of 3.4 percent.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: agitprop; apbias; asspress; buttociatedpress; coverup; dnctalkingpoints; movealong; nothingtoseehere; obamabreakspromises; obamacare; obamalies; obamascandals; pravdamedia

1 posted on 09/26/2012 3:29:35 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

What’s wrong with the other six?


2 posted on 09/26/2012 3:30:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: markomalley

The other six are on the death panel


3 posted on 09/26/2012 3:34:58 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: markomalley

Death panels are OK if you are a member.


4 posted on 09/26/2012 3:35:31 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: markomalley

Don’t be silly, there won’t be any Death Panels. That’s such an ugly name. There’ll be Viability Review Boards, and Feasibility Rating Committees, and Prioritizing Procedural Action Plans, and Resource Management Seminars to train the Patient Evaluation Teams...


5 posted on 09/26/2012 3:42:07 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: markomalley

2010 Census says the median age in America is 37.2. Get the picture? Age warfare, like class warfare, gender warfare, religious warfare, sexual preference warfare and all the other Obama warfare’s is just another Obama agenda item to screw all of us.


6 posted on 09/26/2012 3:42:51 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: markomalley
4 in 10 support Pelosi!

Palliative End of Life Optimum Serenity Initiative (PELOSI).

"Old people never die, they just get in the way." Obamascare! MMMM, MMMM, MMM.

7 posted on 09/26/2012 3:48:16 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: markomalley

If I’m under 40 yrs old, I’m probably thinking this is immoral but it does fix the Social Security and Medicare funding problems.

Chop 10 yrs off the current lifespan and the numbers start to look pretty good.....


8 posted on 09/26/2012 3:50:48 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I think they’ll just re-name them Choice Panels. Everybody’s in favor of “choice”, right?


9 posted on 09/26/2012 3:55:41 PM PDT by Argus
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To: markomalley

If we got rid of ilegals probably wouldn’t have to kill our elderly.


10 posted on 09/26/2012 3:56:25 PM PDT by Leep
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To: A_perfect_lady

The phrase is “Quality Adjusted Remaining Years”.

If whatever affliction you have is going to prevent you from being a productive citizen, you shall find yourself slated for “palliative care”, essentially ending any measures to prolong life. Sooner or later, serious secondary aflictions, pneumonia, massive infections from bedsores, some resistant microorganism (or even some non-resistant organism) will invade and take one’s life, as even any kind of antibiotics will be withheld.

Or, like Terry Schiavo, just withholding of nourishment and permitting the patient to starve to death. Supposed to be a “gentle” death, I am told.

Yeah, right.


11 posted on 09/26/2012 3:59:41 PM PDT by alloysteel ("You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“What’s wrong with the other six?”

Graduates of the Feral Dept. of Indoctrination youth Stupefication Centers.

Never question a teacher, just gag it down and spew it back for a passing grade.


12 posted on 09/26/2012 4:00:59 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

“Don’t be silly, there won’t be any Death Panels. That’s such an ugly name”

There already are!!!

A 90 year old neighbor of my cousin has been denied a hip replacement by Medicare just last month “because of his age” and given instead pain medication!!!


13 posted on 09/26/2012 4:12:48 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

I was being sarcastic.


14 posted on 09/26/2012 4:16:22 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

Since i’m 75 I don’t see anything funny about the subject!!!!

Keep your sarcasim to yourself!


15 posted on 09/26/2012 4:21:43 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: markomalley
Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) as a "panel of faceless bureaucrats who have the power to make life and death decisions about healthcare funding.

In other words, a death panel...

16 posted on 09/26/2012 5:34:36 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: markomalley

Will create Death Panels? Just shows you the Ignorance of the ZMorons in this Country.
Ask them do they Know who Dr.Ezekiel Emmanuel is,do they Know what the Comparative Effectiveness Research panel Is,have they Heard of Quality of Life years? All of these Things are In Obamacare and it is the law of the land. Emmanuel is the Brain child of all of it and was Given 1.1 Billion dollars to Implement it,BEFORE Obamacare was even Passed,it was in Obamas Stimulus Bill,You know the roads and Bridges?


17 posted on 09/27/2012 3:56:58 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: markomalley

Obama said that it wouldn’t fund abortions either.

Obama lied, babies and ol’ people gonna die.


18 posted on 09/27/2012 11:10:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: markomalley

“Those provisions were eventually scrapped after a public outcry”

Just like the block on abortion, right?

Pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it. Bullstalin.


19 posted on 09/27/2012 11:14:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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