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Obama: ‘Future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam’
Twitchy and Red State ^ | Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Posted on 09/25/2012 8:51:38 AM PDT by kristinn

Twitchy headline says it all.

Context provided by Erick Erickson at Red State:

In his speech to the United Nations General Assembly today the President of the United States declared that the future does not belong to practicing Christians. Already, the media and the left are in full denial, probably based on their general lack of understanding of theology. This would have been a gaffe had Mitt Romney said it. But with Barack Obama, he’s just speaking bold truths. His bold truth declares that the future does not belong to practicing Christians.

Pay careful attention to what he says:

"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied. Let us condemn incitement against Sufi Muslims, and Shiite pilgrims. It is time to heed the words of Gandhi: “Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.” Together, we must work towards a world where we are strengthened by our differences, and not defined by them. That is what America embodies, and that is the vision we will support."

Now, that’s the full paragraph so no one can claim I took him out of context.

But consider this.

It is an orthodox Christian belief that Mohammed is not a prophet. Actual Christians, as opposed to many of the supposed Christians put up by the mainstream media, believe that Christ is the only way to salvation. Believing that is slandering Mohammed. That’s just a fact. If you don’t believe me, you go into the MIddle East and proclaim Christ is the way, the truth, and the life and see what happens to your life.

SNIP


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To: kristinn
There is a former and early President whose words also need to be reviewed, for they provide an expanded and historical overview of America's history as it relates to the events playing out before our eyes today.

Any intelligent discussion of where we are as a nation in 2012 should include the writings and words of America's Founders on competing world views then existing and now competing for dominance in our affairs.

A good beginning might be a FR thread from the Year 2004 and the links provided therein.

Because our schools have not taught the ideas of liberty versus competing ideas of tyranny in whatever form they may appear, understood at America's founding, but censored from the nation's textbooks for decades now, we are adrift and in danger of losing the battle of ideas.

America's Founders understood the competing visions and what John Quincy Adams identified as the various "laws of nations" and how the Declaration of Independence's philosophy and the American Constitution fitted into such a world.

A reading of his complete "Jubilee" Address, delivered in 1839 by invitation of the New York Historical Society, would be a beginning, as well as his writings referred to in the thread cited above. Both are linked in that thread.

121 posted on 09/25/2012 9:51:49 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Blogger
Don’t expect much from Mitt. God is our only hope- but then again, He always was.

Best Post Award.

Trust in God.

Everyone else pays cash.

EVERYONE

122 posted on 09/25/2012 9:52:36 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: kristinn

Honestly some days with this guy is just so frustrating.

Sharia cannot play nice with anybody.


123 posted on 09/25/2012 9:53:22 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

This part is not from 0’s speech

Now, that’s the full paragraph so no one can claim I took him out of context.

But consider this.

It is an orthodox Christian belief that Mohammed is not a prophet. Actual Christians, as opposed to many of the supposed Christians put up by the mainstream media, believe that Christ is the only way to salvation. Believing that is slandering Mohammed. That’s just a fact. If you don’t believe me, you go into the MIddle East and proclaim Christ is the way, the truth, and the life and see what happens to your life.


124 posted on 09/25/2012 9:55:52 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: kristinn
Beck..from the project..Islamic-phobia is make up word by Muslim Brotherhood to push agenda and silence critics.

It is well planned to Infiltrate US government, universities, media. Soros is compiling lists of vocal anti islam groups. Warns crisis may be use to blame on hate and push through new censorship laws.

125 posted on 09/25/2012 9:57:07 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: alancarp

” This President has just violated his oath of office to uphold the Constitution (again, but this time blatently)! I WANT THE GOP TO CALL FOR HIS RESIGNATION! “

I’m with you 100%, and there is ample reason to call for his resignation. However, when I look at Boehner and McConnell, all I see is the indentation of Obama’s footprints on their respective faces.


126 posted on 09/25/2012 9:58:48 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: kristinn
This was the "money quote" for me:

"...remember that Muslims have suffered the most at the hands of extremism"

WTF! Order up the commercials for Florinda and New York with Obama saying this as they run a collage of 9/11, the Holocaust, the Pentagon attack, etc behind him!

This clown needs to be removed now ... I am to the point that, yes, I believe even Joe Biden would be better!

127 posted on 09/25/2012 9:59:58 AM PDT by In Maryland (Our rights come from nature and God, not government. - Paul Ryan)
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To: kristinn

Why is this not a first amendment issue? The Administrative Branch is trying to run interference for Islam. Duplicity at its finest.


128 posted on 09/25/2012 10:01:30 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: kristinn

As Peter Schiff pointed out, Dems want to ban all prophets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=07fTsF5BiSM


129 posted on 09/25/2012 10:02:20 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: kristinn

Why is this not a first amendment issue? The Administrative Branch is trying to run interference for Islam. Duplicity at its finest.


130 posted on 09/25/2012 10:02:32 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: kristinn
slan·der [ slándÉ™r ]
1.saying of something false and damaging: the act or offense of saying something false
or malicious that damages somebody's reputation

Worry not Obama...

And for your information, in this millennium, the true Son of God will reign!

131 posted on 09/25/2012 10:02:39 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Texas Songwriter

By first amendment I mean a Separation issue. (sorry)


132 posted on 09/25/2012 10:04:12 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: crusty old prospector

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”

I agree the future belongs to those who get rid of Islam.


133 posted on 09/25/2012 10:05:56 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: kristinn

Islam doesn’t spread as well in Open Carry societies.

Pray for America


134 posted on 09/25/2012 10:06:20 AM PDT by bray (If you vote for a communist what does that make you?)
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To: kristinn

I think he just outted himself on this text!

Oh, yeah, there was a little backhanded mention of Jesus and the Holocaust. How special of him....


135 posted on 09/25/2012 10:06:43 AM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos)
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To: Texas Songwriter

The Violent Ones are the deciding factor.

If you say “x” one day, and no one riots, maims, rapes and kills, then your speech is protected by the first amendment.

If you say “x” the next day and only MUSLIMS maim,rape, and kill, then you need to be sent off to sensitivity training camp.

If someone places a crucifix in urine, they get a government subsidy.

Does that clear it up?


136 posted on 09/25/2012 10:06:57 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: kristinn
Actually I think you took him out of context. The heading is out of context of the paragraph you quoted. And the paragraph itself is out of context of the entire speech. At least the parts I read, Obama actually did a fair job of defending free speech. Full Speech

Some parts you left out....

"And yet the turmoil of recent weeks reminds us that the path to democracy does not end with the casting of a ballot. Nelson Mandela once said: “to be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.” True democracy demands that citizens cannot be thrown in jail because of what they believe, and businesses can be opened without paying a bribe. It depends on the freedom of citizens to speak their minds and assemble without fear; on the rule of law and due process that guarantees the rights of all people."

"I know there are some who ask why we don’t just ban such a video. The answer is enshrined in our laws: our Constitution protects the right to practice free speech. Here in the United States, countless publications provoke offense. Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. Moreover, as President of our country, and Commander-in-Chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so. Americans have fought and died around the globe to protect the right of all people to express their views – even views that we disagree with.

"We do so not because we support hateful speech, but because our Founders understood that without such protections, the capacity of each individual to express their own views, and practice their own faith, may be threatened. We do so because in a diverse society, efforts to restrict speech can become a tool to silence critics, or oppress minorities. We do so because given the power of faith in our lives, and the passion that religious differences can inflame, the strongest weapon against hateful speech is not repression, it is more speech – the voices of tolerance that rally against bigotry and blasphemy, and lift up the values of understanding and mutual respect.

"I know that not all countries in this body share this understanding of the protection of free speech. Yet in 2012, at a time when anyone with a cell phone can spread offensive views around the world with the click of a button, the notion that we can control the flow of information is obsolete. The question, then, is how we respond. And on this we must agree: there is no speech that justifies mindless violence.

"There are no words that excuse the killing of innocents. There is no video that justifies an attack on an Embassy. There is no slander that provides an excuse for people to burn a restaurant in Lebanon, or destroy a school in Tunis, or cause death and destruction in Pakistan.

137 posted on 09/25/2012 10:06:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: kristinn

Mohammed was a pedophile. It is only slander if it is not true. I still have my future.


138 posted on 09/25/2012 10:07:43 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The truth hurts)
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To: opentalk
See posts 698-700 in this thread:

Threat Matrix thread

Also, keyword: theproject; keyword:mbinfiltration

139 posted on 09/25/2012 10:07:44 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: McGruff

“the President of the United States declared that the future does not belong to practicing Christians”

I firmly believe as a practicing Christian that my future does belong, as with other devout followers of Jesus Christ. That future is in Heaven, alongside side my savior.


140 posted on 09/25/2012 10:07:46 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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