Poll: The presidential race is tight in Pennsylvania (Obama 47 Romney 45)

Pittsburgh Tribue-Review ^ | 09/22/2012 | Mike Wereschagin

[nhwingut]

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[nhwingut]

Romney's bad week continues... LOL!

[Lysandru]

Are you sh**ing me? Unfreakin-believable. How is it that Romney can be doomed (allegedly)?

[Names Ash Housewares]

How much did this poll over sample dems and under sample repubs and ind?

[TigerClaws]

The journOlists are coordinating their stories. I keep noticing the same phrases pop up.

[FlingWingFlyer]

So when you take out the state-controlled “media’s” bump, Romney is leading. Cool!

[tanknetter]

The journOlists are coordinating their stories. I keep noticing the same phrases pop up.

I agree. There's a good chance that this story is a plant designed to put pressure (or, rather, have Conservatives/Republicans put pressure) on Romney to spend money there.

Everyone NEEDS to keep in mind that the best, most accurate polls are the ones done by the campaigns that never see the light of day. Those are the ones that drive their actions, not these things being put out by the MSM.

[FreeAtlanta]

If Obama looses Pennsylvania, then election night will be over quickly.

Why any coal producing state would vote for coal hating Obozo is beyond my ability to reason.

[Adriatic Cons]

Awesome! First Romney's internal polls show a 1 pt race, now this... Looks like Ras (O+12) was an outlier. Bad sample of 500 LV

We can do this!!!

[Adriatic Cons]

Awesome! First Romney's internal polls show a 1 pt race, now this... Looks like Ras (O+12) was an outlier. Bad sample of 500 LV

We can do this!!!

[A message]

How can this be. According to the 0bama media group he is ahead by 99% 0bama 1% Romney.

[nascarnation]

I think the best part of Limbaugh’s show is when he replays the clips of all the journ0lists reciting the same talking points.

[kingattax]

but but but......rasmussen’s latest poll had obama +12 in pa.

[Red Steel]

And 6 percent of voters are undecided makes it closer. Obama looks to be in trouble in PA.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Doesn’t the latest Rasmussen poll for PA have Obama up by about 12? I think that was yesterday.

[EGPWS]

Are you sh**ing me? Unfreakin-believable.

Yeah, that 0bama can get even 10% after 4 years of the economic plague!!

[StAnDeliver]

"Poll: The presidential race is tight in Pennsylvania (Obama 47 Romney 45)"

"The journOlists are coordinating their stories. I keep noticing the same phrases pop up."

Yeah, they keep using the word 'tight', because it describes their sphincters.

"Obama polled 47 percent to Romney's 45 percent among likely Pennsylvania voters, with 6 percent of voters undecided and 44 days until Election Day, according to the survey by Susquehanna Polling & Research. The survey of 800 voters, conducted Sept. 18-20, has a margin of error of 3.46 percentage points."

[EGPWS]

Why any coal producing state would vote for coal hating Obozo is beyond my ability to reason.

JMO FA.

[tips up]

Wasn’t there another poll from the drive bys that had Barry with a double digit lead in Penn?

[1035rep]

“All the evidence points to a much closer margin,” said Jim Lee, Susquehanna president. “Nothing suggests we’re looking at anything like 2008.”

Voters who peg foreign affairs and international events as their top concern prefer Romney, 53 percent to 46 percent, the poll found.

[NFHale]

And yet...Rasmussen says it’s O-Hole 51% to Romney 39%
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2934968/posts

They’re all crap until Election Day.

Keep the faith.

[God luvs America]

lets hope as a Rasmussen poll posted on Freep last night had obozo up 13 in the state...

[comebacknewt]

The Tribune-Revie is the conservative paper in Pittsburgh, and neither Romney nor Obama seem to be spending any time there.

Still, this is a real eye opener. I think Obama is currently winning, but his support runs a mile wide but only a fraction of an inch deep.

Romney, if he ever truly gets on message and stays there, can definitely win this.

[Mangia E Statti Zitto]

I agree with you. If I were Romney, I wouldn’t spend one dime in PA. It would be marvelous if they voted for Romney. Same for California. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

[jocon307]

The last poll out of Pennsy had Obama at, like 55 and Romney at like 39, or something.

There are at least 3 threads on it here. I think it was Rasmussen, but I could be wrong.

In all reality right now this race is up for grabs, but that makes me think advantage Romney.

[jocon307]

“Everyone NEEDS to keep in mind that the best, most accurate polls are the ones done by the campaigns that never see the light of day. Those are the ones that drive their actions, not these things being put out by the MSM.”

This is true.

[Gay State Conservative]

Sounds like a margin of error figure.Romney could actually be ahead there.Force Osama Obama to spend serious $$$ to win what should be a walk in the park for him!

[Foolsgold]

How many coal fired electricity generation plants are scheduled to close before year end? and didn’t o dumbo say rates will necessarily skyrocket and if you build it I will bankrupt it??????

[haircutter]

LET’S GO PITTSBURGH

WE CAN DO THIS...ROMNEY~~RYAN 2012

[Gene Eric]

Earlier in the day, PA was for Obama 85 to 15.

[txhurl]

With a 15% MOE.

[I_Like_Spam]

I guess the strategy of pulling the ads for Romney is working.

Makes the election look more like Obama or no Obama and that’s one of Romney’s best selling points- he’s not Obama.

[Holly_P]

“Why any coal producing state would vote for coal hating Obozo is beyond my ability to reason.”

He didn’t hide his dislike of coal in the last election, going so far as to promise to shut down coal fired power plants and Pennsylvania still went blue.

[snarkytart]

Rasmussen has Romney down around 8 points, I believe.

[CincyRichieRich]

West Virginia votes for libs who close down coal...if Penn votes for Obama they’re stupid idiots...coal, oil...

[snarkytart]

Yes but rhetoric and actually doing is two different things. The people in PA now see what he’s doing/done. I think coal country will go Romney. It’s the cities that over take the state. Just like MOST blue states.

[Holly_P]

“Yeah, that 0bama can get even 10% after 4 years of the economic plague!!”

Kind of shows the weakness of the republican candidate, doesn’t it?

I may be wrong but I believe had Palin run, it wouldn’t even be close now. A strong conservative is what we need and haven’t had since Reagan. It makes me want to puke when I see anyone comparing Romney favorably with Reagan.

Romney out Kerrys Kerry

[linn37]

If they don’t stop the Voter ID bill he might have a slim chance.

[Blood of Tyrants]

A poll just yesterday had Obozo up by 12.

[WashingtonSource]

Yes, Rasmussen had it at O 51, R 39. That was VERY depressing. But this poll sounds more realistic — and, of course, more encouraging.

[TonyInOhio]

I may be wrong but I believe had Palin run, it wouldn’t even be close now.

You can't win the prize when you're not in the ring.

You go with the candidate you have. The next President will likely choose three Supreme Court justices; I'd rather deny Obama that power.

[hinckley buzzard]

I keep hearing time and time again about these mysterious "private" or "internal" polls that campaigns rely on, which are supposedly more accurate than any of the published polls. I am willing to believe they may exist, but have yet to see any evidence or credible source describing them. If someone has that knowledge, or a believable link, I would be appreciative to see it.

[mwl8787]

Romney shouldn’t spend in PA - yet - but the Super Pacs should. Saturate both Philly and Pittsburgh markets, move the needle, and force Obama to react on the air.

Obama cannot keep up if we spread the map and saturate Blue markets.

DRAIN OBAMA DRY NOW. They cannot admit to the MSM there will be movement against them in blue states, so they cannot overtly raise a lot of money.

The only problem is that the pro-Romney PACS may not have enough money to throw around. They should, and any wealthy conservatives that haven’t written 7-figure checks should be ashamed. They are consigning their children and grandchildren to debt, despair, and darkness for the remainder of their lives.

[Laura722]

Wow. I wonder how accurate this is. Rasmussen just released a poll with Obama up 51-39 in Pennsylvania.

[9422WMR]

Remember the 2010 elections? Rats are trying to make us forget they were destroyed last time out. And things are worse now.

[hinckley buzzard]

I think most freepers are smart enough to realize that the coal counties in a given state will go against the Usurper but the heavily populated cities will go for the socialist swine. Parasitic cityslickers don't care about the energy problem, they just assume the lights will always be there.

[cookcounty]

Yesterday Rasmussen said Pennsylvania was Obama by 14 points.

Somebody is not working sober.

[LS]

See, this is what is so frustrating about these polls. We just had a PA poll from RASMUSSEN-—who should be reliable-—showing a big Obama lead in PA. Now this. WTF?

[oldplayer]

Don’t waste time or money in Pennsylvania.

Oldplayer

[ncalburt]

Did you read the really pathetic column by Scotty Ras trashing Romney this week.
It sounded like Peggy Noonan bs.

Ras has been battered by Axelrod and Nate " Daily Koz " Silver and I think he has buckled to their pressure .

He changed his national poll from +1 Rep to +2 Dem for no reason and did it quietly.
I suspect his state polling has been pressured to use the 2008 exit polling data too.

[tanknetter]

I keep hearing time and time again about these mysterious "private" or "internal" polls that campaigns rely on, which are supposedly more accurate than any of the published polls. I am willing to believe they may exist, but have yet to see any evidence or credible source describing them. If someone has that knowledge, or a believable link, I would be appreciative to see it.

You should, as a starting point, reference this thread where GOP pollster John McLaughlin went into some details about the MSM polls being BS.

I've worked campaigns, albiet a while ago, and I have lots of friends still working them. There are always internal polls, and those polls are designed by intent to tell campaigns where they need to send their candidates/surrogates and where to spend their money. They are also, as I know from both experience and knowledge from friends, often quite different from the MSM ones.

The devil here is in the details. Or specifically the internals. Polling is very much an art, not a science, and pollsters take the results they receive and plug them into fairly complex models that encompass things like demographics, partisan/ideological affiliation and expected turnout.

The three most critical items to look at in any MSM poll right now are Partisan identification, where the independents are trending and voter enthusiasm.

The current MSM polls are showing, by and large, an unreasonable partisan advantage to the Dems. 2008 was a D+7 election. Some polls out there are showing D+9 to D+13 advantages (although the trend in the last couple days seems to be contracting on that). So ask yourself, is it reasonable to assume that the Dems are going to have a turnout of 2 to 6 points GREATER than the historic/unprecedented turnout of 2008?

The MSM polls are also showing greater enthusiasm by GOP/Romney supporters (enthusiasm was in the Dems favor in 2008) and Indies generally (there have been a couple polls not showing this) trending to Romney. One by 10 points. So now ask yourself, why are polls showing greater GOP enthusiasm and Indies breaking for Romney also showing him getting his a** kicked?

While I don't have any insider knowledge of current Romney polls, it's well within reason to believe that his campaign has projected turnout models for each state (and nationally) based on better and more realistic assumptions and projections (so NOT a Dem turnout higher than the historic 2008 election).