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Secret Nazi tapes reveal how ordinary German soldiers were responsible
MAIL Online (UK) ^ | September 21, 2012 | David Baker

Posted on 09/23/2012 11:18:17 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright

Secret recordings made by British intelligence during the Second World War have revealed for the first time the horrific atrocities carried out by everyday German soldiers.

For years the blame for horrific war crimes, rape and genocide were laid at the hands of the SS and Hitler's right hand men but a new book details how widespread the barbarity went.

Transcripts taken from hidden microphones on prisoners of war have been collated for the disturbing book Soldaten: On Fighting, Killing and Dying: The Secret Second World War Tapes of German POWs.

Revelations: The new book reveals how soldiers like this one callously murdered the innocent and then joked about it with fellow soldiers

Revelations: The new book reveals how soldiers like this one callously murdered the innocent and then joked about it with fellow soldiers


(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; crimes; germany; nazi; war; wwii
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Full title: 'I liked to shoot everything - women, kids... it was kind of sport': Secret Nazi tapes reveal how ordinary German soldiers were responsible for war crimes and not just SS

"Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann.

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1 posted on 09/23/2012 11:18:23 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright

We didn’t call them the Hun JUST for propaganda.


2 posted on 09/23/2012 11:28:59 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Hitler, like Obama, suffered from NPD. We see from history what the end result will be like if Obama is reelected.


3 posted on 09/23/2012 11:33:35 AM PDT by Ohiobelle
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To: Neil E. Wright

Antony Brevard and max hastings in their two recent histories of WW2 put the myth of Wehrmacht innocence in the grave. The responsibility went from the lowest landser to the highest divisional and army commanders. One thing is true. beyond the Holocaust, if you were alive and living between the Oder and the Urals from 1941-45 you were in Hell.


4 posted on 09/23/2012 11:34:02 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: allmendream
Anyone who wants to take the time to read the history can read about German soldiers murdering families in their homes in Alsace and Belgium as they invaded and retreated.

I go through Germany a lot on business and the attitudes are still there. Especially in the Deutsche Polizei, who still snigger and sneer at any non-Germans.

Not all of Germany is like that but it's still a strong undercurrent, buttressed by their economic resurgence. In the 70's, those attitudes were under tight wraps.

It's a place that really might just deserve a permanent foreign military presence.

5 posted on 09/23/2012 11:34:25 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Neil E. Wright
For the most part I'm inclined to hold the higher ranks and higher civilian officials responsible.Many (if not most) of the ordinary soldiers committing these atrocities were brought up from a very impressionable age in the Hitler Youth...a training ground for psychopaths of the future.Add to that the fear (probably appropriate) of serious reprisals for “leniency”....
6 posted on 09/23/2012 11:40:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: Neil E. Wright
the first picture has odd shoulder boards, no eagle over the pocket and doesn't look like Wehrmacht

the second looks like SS and the third is definitely SS

the forth are SS officers

in the fifth one the guy looking at the camera again has an odd uniform and helmet but those in the background are most definitely SS

the sixth, no way to tell

7 posted on 09/23/2012 11:45:45 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: allmendream

According to this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American

50 million Americans are of German ancestry. When we reach a point where hyper inflation or other monetary calamity destroys everything we’ve worked for, watch out.


8 posted on 09/23/2012 11:46:07 AM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: Neil E. Wright
And yet, they were greeted as liberators in the Ukraine!


9 posted on 09/23/2012 11:47:02 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Chode
3the sixth, no way to tell

The hat on the one in the middle doesn't even look German.

10 posted on 09/23/2012 11:59:25 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Regulator

“It’s a place that really might just deserve a permanent foreign military presence.”

People often don’t get that one reason we stuck around after the war was to stop our now-allies from doing it again. Their records prior to and during WW2 was nothing to be proud of.


11 posted on 09/23/2012 12:03:55 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Chode
I would imagine that there's a reason for the pics depicting SS troops. The SS documented everything they did, while the Wehrmacht, not so much. The pics in the article are from NAZI archives. The tapes tell the story.

"Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann.

“Where liberty dwells, there is my country." –Benjamin Franklin

Islam Delenda Est!

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12 posted on 09/23/2012 12:10:36 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: 109ACS
As someone whose ancestry is 100% German, I'm curious what you think we should "watch out" for.

Maybe you just need to brush up on your 20th century history. Stalin starved 9 million Ukrainians to death for the "crime" of being more competent and therefore more prosperous than their neighbors. When the census takers reported the population drop, he had them shot.

No Germans were involved.

Mao's "Great Leap Forward" had farmers cooking worthless poor-quality steel in "blast furnaces" built in holes in the ground, instead of tending their crops. The resulting famine killed perhaps 50 million people.

No Germans were involved.

I would, if I were you, be far more careful to "watch out" for the 40% or so of your fellow citizens who think they're entitled to steal from the rest of us instead of working, irrespective of their ethnic heritage.

13 posted on 09/23/2012 12:13:23 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Neil E. Wright
not disputing the story, just saying the pic's i referenced are not necessarily German troops...

they could be Italian or local troops etc. as many of the local troops like the Chetniks were more than happy to slaughter their neighbors given the chance when the time came

14 posted on 09/23/2012 12:22:28 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Neil E. Wright

This just in:

War is a bad business where very bad things happen, especially when civilians are thrown into the mix.


15 posted on 09/23/2012 12:24:22 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Revolting cat!

Read about what Stalin did to the Ukrainians...and you will understand why!


16 posted on 09/23/2012 12:27:21 PM PDT by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: xkaydet65

I’m about 2/3rds of the way through Antony Brevard’s book. Fascinating, disturbing, and well written.


17 posted on 09/23/2012 12:33:44 PM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: Neil E. Wright

This is an email, minus the pictures, I received two days ago. The pictures are available at http://www.valorstudios.com/Franz-Stigler-Charlie-Brown.htm Verification that this is a true story is also available there.

Look carefully at the B-17 and note how shot up it is - one engine dead, tail, horizontal stabilizer and nose shot up. It was ready to fall out of the sky. (This is a painting done by an artist from the description of both pilots many years later.) Then realize that there is a German ME-109 fighter flying next to it. Now read the story below. I think you’ll be surprised...

Charlie Brown was a B-17 Flying Fortress pilot with the 379th Bomber Group at Kimbolton , England . His B-17 was called ‘Ye Old Pub’ and was in a terrible state, having been hit by flak and fighters. The compass was damaged and they were flying deeper over enemy territory instead of heading home to Kimbolton.

After flying the B-17 over an enemy airfield, a German pilot named Franz Steigler was ordered to take off and shoot down the B-17. When he got near the B-17, he could not believe his eyes. In his words, he ‘had never seen a plane in such a bad state’... The tail and rear section was severely damaged, and the tail gunner wounded. The top gunner was all over the top of the fuselage. The nose was smashed and there were holes everywhere.

Despite having ammunition, Franz flew to the side of the B-17 and looked at Charlie Brown, the pilot.
Brown was scared and struggling to control his damaged and blood-stained plane.

BF-109 pilot Franz Stigler B-17 pilot Charlie Brown.

Aware that they had no idea where they were going, Franz waved at Charlie to turn 180 degrees. Franz escorted and guided the stricken plane to, and slightly over, the North Sea towards England .. He then saluted Charlie Brown and turned away, back to Europe ...

When Franz landed he told the CO that the plane had been shot down over the sea, and never told the truth to anybody. Charlie Brown and the remains of his crew told all at their briefing, but were ordered never to talk about it.

More than 40 years later, Charlie Brown wanted to find the Luftwaffe pilot who saved the crew. After years of research, Franz was found. He had never talked about the incident, not even at post-war reunions.

They met in the USA at a 379th Bomber Group reunion, together with 25 people who were alive - all because Franz never fired his guns that day.

(L-R) German Ace Franz Stigler, artist Ernie Boyett, and B-17 pilot Charlie Brown.

When asked why he didn’t shoot them down, Stigler later said, “I didn’t have the heart to finish those brave men. I flew beside them for a long time. They were trying desperately to get home and I was going to let them do that. I could not have shot at them. It would have been the same as shooting at a man in a parachute.”

Both men died in 2008.

This is a true story..
This was back in the days when there was some kind of honour in being a warrior. They proudly wore uniforms, and they didn’t hide behind women and children, nor did they plant bombs amidst innocent crowds.

(No, I am not of German heritage)


18 posted on 09/23/2012 12:36:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: Campion

I too am of German descent. There is nothing special about the genetic makeup of Germans vs. Russians, Poles, etc. For all intents and purposes, we are the same. All I’m saying is, if the same conditions existed in the US as existed in Germany post WWI and pre WWII, you would probably get a similar result. I can see us heading into the same situation the Germans faced, when a loaf of bread cost a wheel barrow of money in the morning and two wheel barrows of money in the afternoon. When that happens, desperate people will do desperate things.


19 posted on 09/23/2012 12:36:48 PM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: Neil E. Wright

This is interesting. More news of carnage from World War II. Of course there was plenty of that going on all over. It does add to the overall picture. Of course,there is plenty of killing going on today.


20 posted on 09/23/2012 12:43:40 PM PDT by River Hawk
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To: Revolting cat!
And yet, they were greeted as liberators in the Ukraine!

Not that surprising, given the forced collectivization and attendant starvation imposed on the Ukrainians by Hitler's arch enemy, and rival for most evil man of the 20th century, Jospeph Stalin.

21 posted on 09/23/2012 12:57:46 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I’m teaching “Night” in my classroom currently. Couldn’t help but mention that there are some countries in the world (and you can guess who) that still want all Jews killed.


22 posted on 09/23/2012 1:03:06 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: B4Ranch

Great story, thanks.


23 posted on 09/23/2012 1:04:10 PM PDT by River Hawk
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To: B4Ranch

I had a relative in WWII, he was a gunner on a bomber. Their plane was shot down over Germany, everybody aboard died. The plane crashed on a German farm,and the farmer respectfully buried all the dead. Later, when the U.S. had invaded and was tying up loose ends,they were able to interview that farmer and disinter the dead and rebury them elsewhere. The point is that the German farmer had enough respect for the dead to give them a decent burial.


24 posted on 09/23/2012 1:04:22 PM PDT by River Hawk
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To: PAR35
i know... the one on the left looks a little like a Polish garrison hat while the one in the middle looks almost like a German WWI garrison hat... the guys on the left and right both have helmets tied to their their rucks
25 posted on 09/23/2012 1:20:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: montomike

I understand why, Captain Obvious, do you understand why when the Red Army came, others in the same places (who?) greeted them as liberators?


26 posted on 09/23/2012 1:29:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: luvbach1

Nothing was as simple and straight forward as we are being thought by the history manipulators.


27 posted on 09/23/2012 1:31:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: allmendream
I'm sorry. German troops were no angels any more than any other troops. But these conversations sound to me an awful lot like sidelined captives putting on their captors, not to mention the universal temptation of soldiers to exaggerate and exoticize their actions.

Thank you for your attention. You may now return to your previously scheduled German hatefest.

28 posted on 09/23/2012 1:49:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Neil E. Wright

Does anyone doubt that some on the rabid left would not like to do the same to conservatives, Christians, etc...true hate is a powerful force (not the concocted ‘hate’ we hear from the gay lobby)


29 posted on 09/23/2012 1:51:35 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

From the point of view of the residents of the East (Europe, D’UH!) for something like 1,000 years (can you count to 100? 1,000 is like counting to 100 ten times!) the invaders from the West brought civilization, while the invaders from the East brought nothing but savagery! That held true during the WWII. (The barbarisms of war are assumed.)


30 posted on 09/23/2012 1:54:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: B4Ranch
In The Last Flight of the Luftwaffe Adrian Weir documents cases in which American pilots who bailed out near German airbases were protected from hostile civilians and treated as fellow pilots by Luftwaffe members on the ground.
31 posted on 09/23/2012 2:00:05 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Neil E. Wright

Soros is still proud of his actions.


32 posted on 09/23/2012 2:06:21 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Campion

You know, I am German too, and I thank the good Lord everyday that He allowed for my ancestors to leave that Barbaric, humorless country everyday! Germans, like Mexicans, who wave their flags and see themselves as citizens of those respective countries first and foremost, rather than Americans, can freely leave, I am an American first and a German second, I am sick of hyphenated terms for Americans! The Germans were complacent in evil, no different than the Mooslims’ evil hatred of Jews!


33 posted on 09/23/2012 2:09:54 PM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Campion
Your post #13.

On atrocities committed in the last century.

No Germans were involved.

It is very human of people who are aghast at some terrible example of mass killing and genocide, to centre on one group. Throughout history there are examples of this very dark side of the human condition. I have too many contrary feelings to express my inner thoughts. I was treated so nicely on another thread on another subject.

I have a very distant descent from two young people who fled the horrible massacres in France in the 1600's. They married at St Dunstans, Stepney, London. Huguenots were the French protestants who were protected by the "Edict of Nantes." The French King lifted the edict. Murder, rape and occupation of their houses took place.

Now the best thing I can do to avoid the misunderstandings that might occur is to give some facts. This deals with ancestries.

Canadian Government statistics, carefully avoided by the Canadian press have been printed on the crime rates per capita by immigrants. Herewith the lowest crime rates which include Canadian born citizens.

(1) Austrians.
(2) Germans.
(3) Indians (from Asian India.
(3) Chinese

I will not give the highest rates of immigrant to Canada which commit crimes. A peaceful day here in Great Lakes country and the fall colours starting. I will end in quoting the immortal bard Robert Burns.

"Man's inhumanity to man, makes countless thousands mourn."

34 posted on 09/23/2012 2:11:34 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Chode

My first guess for the guy in the middle was Hungarian or perhaps one of the other German allies rather than Heer.

In any event, it appears they just grabbed random pictures to illustrate the story without bothering to see what they were getting.


35 posted on 09/23/2012 3:53:39 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Ping.


36 posted on 09/23/2012 4:05:13 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123, Bahbah, and Just Lori.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“I’m sorry. German troops were no angels any more than any other troops. But these conversations sound to me an awful lot like sidelined captives putting on their captors, not to mention the universal temptation of soldiers to exaggerate and exoticize their actions.”

In those POW camps those captured more often than not knew they were being audio monitored. What better way to p-off your captors and at the same time enhance your position within your group than with some “war stories” .POW camp audio tapes are proof of nothing. File photos are a different matter and probably exist on both sides.


37 posted on 09/23/2012 4:32:03 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great para/p)
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To: Neil E. Wright
hidden microphones on prisoners of war

That statement seemed a bit odd. What was state of the art in hidden microphones at that time? How did they record the microphones’ signals for later playback?

38 posted on 09/23/2012 4:34:10 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: MosesKnows

Not sure what they looked like, but I know that Allen Funt of ‘Candid Camera’ fame was a WWII expert with hidden microphones and wire recorders.


39 posted on 09/23/2012 4:43:52 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: PAR35
Hungary would be a good possibility and yes as to the grabbing random pictures sounds right also
40 posted on 09/23/2012 4:44:53 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MosesKnows

The Mirror is clearer on what transpired:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/secret-nazi-tapes-shocking-germany-1336922

...British intelligence hid microphones among POWs at Trent Park detention centre in North London, captured every boast, offhand remark and sick joke about the killing of children and new mothers, women being raped and the mass extermination of Jews...


41 posted on 09/23/2012 4:54:09 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Neil E. Wright

FYI - to explain hate and despize for Germans -
The official name for cockroach on Serbian is “German” (Shwaba)
Not a nick, but real-life name for cockroaches...


42 posted on 09/23/2012 5:51:11 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: jjotto

How do we even know that even a shred of this story is true? Can any of it be verified? It sounds like they are trying to shake down the German taxpayer to save the Euro using the old guilt question of WWII. Enough already!


43 posted on 09/23/2012 6:48:23 PM PDT by starvosan
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To: jjotto

How do we even know that even a shred of this story is true? Can any of it be verified? It sounds like they are trying to shake down the German taxpayer to save the Euro using the old guilt question of WWII. Enough already!


44 posted on 09/23/2012 6:48:35 PM PDT by starvosan
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To: 109ACS

I am am American of German descent. My grandfather was a hero in WW2, in the Pacific because of the surname he passed on to me. He, like myself was all Akerican. He was a US Marine and he was SEMPER FI!!!

I think we mostly called them The Hun for propaganda purposes, but there was some underlying truth to it. Something in the German culture that is not as prevalent in the American culture.


45 posted on 09/23/2012 6:57:33 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: starvosan

Always good to be suspicious about this sort of thing, but it seems a researcher on WWII U-boats noticed these overlooked transcripts, and has been working on a book, since 2001.

Some of the transcripts were in British archives and many were in Washington, DC.

http://www.amazon.com/Soldaten-On-Fighting-Killing-Dying/dp/0307958124


46 posted on 09/23/2012 6:59:19 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Bookmark type thing.
47 posted on 09/23/2012 11:43:52 PM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: Campion

In the past 2 decades, I’ve noticed an unfortunate trend,
that of denigrating anyone of German descent, including
those here as being suspectible to committing atrocities,
more than people of other backgrounds. This is not borne
out by history; atrocities, though not of the Holocaust
type, have been committed by peopl of all races and cultures,
the latter being the more operative factor. I’ve never
found anything that’s adequate as a response. This meme,
or whatever you call it, could not have been enunciated
in the first post-war decades, bc there were too many
people, veterans and others, who knew better. This comment
doesn’t satisfy me, but I wanted to post something.


48 posted on 09/24/2012 9:49:27 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: Neil E. Wright
Buddy of mine emmigrated from France. He said at one time the French are always looking for the "switch" on Germans.

You throw it one way they are happy beer swilling louts, the other way they are ruthless killers.

49 posted on 09/24/2012 4:45:05 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Gay State Conservative

This is something that is happening in America. How many black on white crimes are rationalized as victims lashing out? Every gradeschooler “knows” America is a destructive force in the world. Under the correct circumstances ordinary people can rationalize terrible crimes. This isn’t a German problem.


50 posted on 09/29/2012 3:26:08 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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