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What John McLaughlin [Pollster] Sees in the Polls Right Now
nro ^ | September 21, 2012 8:27 A.M | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 09/22/2012 8:30:07 PM PDT by Red Steel

I reached out to Republican pollster John McLaughlin for yesterday’s piece on how undecided voters are likely to break, and he made some separate comments about polls, their impact on motivation for each side, and how the campaigns want to use skewed poll numbers to depress the opposition.

How he’s defining likely voters right now: “For the most part we’re polling likely voters. It’s a loose screen. We keep people who say they’re only somewhat likely to vote. But the vast majority say that they are definitely or very likely to vote. They’re voting.”

How campaigns try to sway polling results: “In a close race, the operatives are trying to manipulate the turnout through their paid and earned media. The earned media includes lobbying and trying to skew the public polls. Historically the most egregious case was the 2000 Gore campaign’s lobbying the networks’ exit pollsters for an early, and wrong, call in Florida. This suppressed the Florida Panhandle and Western state turnout.” (Polls close at different times in different parts of the state, because the state stretches into two time zones.) “In our post-election Florida poll, we found that thousands of Panhandle Floridians heard the call and although their polls were still open for an hour in a close national race decided not to vote. Panhandle voters went two-to-one for Bush. The CBS early wrong call nearly triggered a national crisis.”

On what a realistic partisan breakdown would look like: “The 2004 national exit polls showed an even partisan turnout and Bush won 51–48. Had it been the +4 Democratic edge of 2000, John Kerry would have been president. 2008 was a Democratic wave that gave them a +7 partisan advantage. 2010 was a Republican edge. There’s no wave right now. There are about a dozen swing states where in total millions of voters who voted in 2008 for Obama are gone or have not voted since. There are also hundreds of thousands of voters in each of several swing states like Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, and others who voted from rural, exurban or suburban areas in 2004 for Bush who did not vote in 2008, because they were not excited by McCain or thought he would lose. They are currently planning to vote mainly as a vote against President Obama.”

What Obama and his allies are doing now: “The Democrats want to convince [these anti-Obama voters] falsely that Romney will lose to discourage them from voting. So they lobby the pollsters to weight their surveys to emulate the 2008 Democrat-heavy models. They are lobbying them now to affect early voting. IVR [Interactive Voice Response] polls are heavily weighted. You can weight to whatever result you want. Some polls have included sizable segments of voters who say they are ‘not enthusiastic’ to vote or non-voters to dilute Republicans. Major pollsters have samples with Republican affiliation in the 20 to 30 percent range, at such low levels not seen since the 1960s in states like Virginia, Florida, North Carolina and which then place Obama ahead. The intended effect is to suppress Republican turnout through media polling bias. We’ll see a lot more of this. Then there’s the debate between calling off a random-digit dial of phone exchanges vs. a known sample of actual registered voters. Most polls favoring Obama are random and not off the actual voter list. That’s too expensive” for some pollsters.

TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; demlies; mediabias; pollbias
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To: Terry Mross

As I recall, that’s about the time ears suspended his campaign for a month. Perot did not any part in winning.

21 posted on 09/22/2012 9:57:10 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Terry Mross

I am not sure if my link below is posted correctly, but it is a YouTube of the CBS pundit table in 1980 after Reagan was declared the winner.

It is a great watch as all the LIbs are astonished how the actual vote broke so soundly towards Reagan after the polls showed it a tight race.

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Worth five minutes of your time.

22 posted on 09/22/2012 10:05:05 PM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: Red Steel

Perot did not [want] any part in winning.

23 posted on 09/22/2012 10:06:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: SteveAustin

The link works fine. As you said, well worth the five minutes. And Dan Rather acknowledging the electorates rejection of liberalism, Priceless!

Thanks for posting that link. :)

24 posted on 09/22/2012 10:55:50 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Red Steel

Keep in mind even the Exit Polls of actual voters on election day have been wrong, and had Kerry beating Bush.

25 posted on 09/22/2012 11:27:03 PM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: WXRGina
It was used by all the Clintonistas during the Vince Foster “suicide” investigation as an excuse for all the fishy phone calls between white house staff on the night he died. They were “reaching out” to each other.
26 posted on 09/23/2012 4:44:31 AM PDT by Barb4Bush (God bless Glenn Beck!)
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To: ncalburt

Same here, Laura has not been on the radio here (Mpls) since shortly after he left FOX.

27 posted on 09/23/2012 5:35:22 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Red Badger

Ah, yes! A classic! But, they didn’t have to insert it into the corporate lexicon. :-)

28 posted on 09/23/2012 6:52:31 AM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: Grams A
Thank you. Final straw was the service company “reaching out to tell me that my tire was repaired”. Modern lingo is just stupid IMO. Quit with the change.


29 posted on 09/23/2012 6:55:22 AM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: WXRGina
I’m tired of the corporateeze phrase “reach out [to]...” Where did that come from?

Sounds like Mob talk or maybe lawyer's? I reached out to him and made an offer he couldn't refuse...


30 posted on 09/23/2012 3:52:45 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

HA! Yeah, well whatever it is, it’s everywhere today! If you deal with corporations, you can’t escape it. :-/

31 posted on 09/23/2012 4:21:47 PM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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