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Dalio Fears Social Unrest That Led to Hitlerís Rise
CNBC ^ | 9/21/12 | Maneet Ahuja

Posted on 09/22/2012 5:58:26 PM PDT by Kartographer

In a worst case scenario, he painted a much darker picture.

“When people get at each other’s throat, the rich and the poor and the left and the right and so on, and you have a basic breakdown, that becomes very threatening,” Dalio told CNBC in an exclusive interview on “Squawk Box.” “For example, Hitler came to power in 1933, which was the depth of the Great Depression, because of the social tension between the factions. So I think it very much is dependent on how the people work this through together and worry about the social elements.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 1932; 193211; 19321106; 1933; 193301; 19330130; 193302; 19330227; 193303; 19330305; cnbc; dalio; debt; depression; germany; hitler; marinusvanderlubbe; obamalegacy; squawkbox; vanderlubbe
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Gerald Celente: “When People Lose Everything, They Have Nothing Left To Lose, And They Lose It”
1 posted on 09/22/2012 5:58:28 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose. But I don’t think freedom is the future that Europe is heading for.


2 posted on 09/22/2012 6:03:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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Trotsky wrote that the communists and the national socialists both drew from the same population base - weak, worried, frustrated and desperate people in the lower classes. The whole difference in his view was that those who supported the communists had lost everything, those who supported the national socialists still had a little bit to lose.


3 posted on 09/22/2012 6:13:09 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Kartographer

I think they are ripe for finally falling to the (modern version of) the Ottomans.


4 posted on 09/22/2012 6:18:22 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Kartographer

Unlike Hitler’s 1930’s Germany, American citizens have been stock piling well over 10 million firearms per year since 2008.


5 posted on 09/22/2012 6:24:54 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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I'm preparing my ascension into power.

The death camps will run day and night, killing leftists.

6 posted on 09/22/2012 6:28:59 PM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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Mr. Dalio, I do believe we're about to witness the culmination of a Malthusian Cycle.
7 posted on 09/22/2012 6:30:09 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Lazamataz

More empty chairs? ;-)


8 posted on 09/22/2012 6:35:20 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lazamataz

You may expect my résumé via FReepmail (references available upon request).


9 posted on 09/22/2012 6:57:20 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Lazamataz

If you care for some suggestions on the automation and design of the disposal facilities just let me know. I have been thinking about these technical problems for years. The object of the process is to eliminate any thing so primitive as a camp; reduce the man power requirements and as much as possible, eliminate the opportunity for human error or failure.
Approximately 90% of the systems can be automated such as; side loading, bottom dumping rail cars, automated in route gas dispensing systems, conveyor and furnace systems, crushing and milling systems, and last packaging systems for the final product.
The final product could be used for a great many purposes; every thing from concrete additives, to soil amendments.
Properly designed stack scrubbers could be installed to recover all heavy metals and improve environmental conditions in the vicinity of the processing plant.
I have examined several possible plant locations on past hunting trips that are very well suited to privacy and minimal environmental impact.


10 posted on 09/22/2012 7:00:44 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Charles Martel

No need for a resume. Your reputation precedes you, sir.


11 posted on 09/22/2012 7:01:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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To: 5th MEB

While your plan has a certain cachet, I feel the reclamation of liberal people’s corpses to make some sort of gunpowder component has much more irony and bathos.


12 posted on 09/22/2012 7:03:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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Gerald Celente makes some valid observations, but his example is not completely accurate in the case of Germany. The following highly condensed time-line illustrates that it was largely political skulduggery that was largely responsible for Hitler and the Nazi's rise to power and not People who had lost everything.

In the last truly “free” election in Germany before WWII on November 6, 1932 the Nazis received only 33% of the vote. The Nazis formed a coalition with the Social Democratic Party which gave them a 53% majority and Hitler was named Chancellor on January 30, 1933. As Chancellor, Hitler asked German President Paul von Hindenburg to dissolve the Reichstag and call for a new parliamentary election. The date set for the elections was March 5, 1933.

On February 27, 1933 an arson fire burned the Reichstag, Germany's Parlement building to the ground. It was allegedly started by Marinus van der Lubbe, a communist and unemployed bricklayer. Many historians now believe that the fire was planned and started by the Nazis themselves. This “crisis” created a huge backlash against the communists and a huge boost in popularity for the Nazis.

Still on March 5, 1933 the Nazis were only able to muster 43.91% of the vote. Hitler alleged that Germany was on the verge of a Communist revolution and was able to form another coalition and pass the “Enabling Act” on March 30, 1933 which essentially gave Hitler dictatorial powers.

During “The Night of the Long Knives” which actually occurred between June 30 and July 2, 1934, the Nazi regime carried out a series of political murders which further consolidated the Nazi's power. Many believe at that time Germany passed a point of no return

In 1933 and 1944 Germany arguably had the best educated population in the entire world. They were a largely homogeneous, traditional and cautious society. Yet they were able to be led like lambs to slaughter down the path to complete destruction. Obviously economic challenges were a factor but the German economy was in recovery and the populace had plenty to lose.

13 posted on 09/22/2012 7:17:33 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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Excuse me, I had a typo it should have said “In 1933 and 1934 Germany arguably had the best educated population in the entire world.”


14 posted on 09/22/2012 7:23:46 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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Your post #13.

In the last truly "free" election in Germany before WWII on November 6, 1932 the Nazis received only 33% of the vote. The Nazis formed a coalition with the Social Democratic Party which gave them a 53% majority and Hitler was named Chancellor on January 30, 1933.

I must be one of the few Freepers to remember WWII from start to finish. The more I have read since, the more happier that I am to be able to try to understand what really went on. This is in retrospect and not in the heat of the actual war.

George Orwell became part of the propaganda war within that organization the BBC. Later Orwell conceded that in order to defeat Hitler, the use of lies and other innacuracies was necessary. I would not be the one to judge that here.

I do have the Horst Wessel Lied on Youtube. It is the marching song of the Germans. One grainly film shows Hitler before he attained power, at the salute. From the left of the film, a small boy waves his hands weakly at the Nazis. Then the communist hard men start in. The helmeted German policeman has his head gear knocked awry. Now come the Nazi hard men. What a fist fight!

I hold it that more than half the Germans did not want that war. Most of my countrymen did not want it either. Once it started, there was no turning back.

The civilized English speaking peoples surely will not fall for a any sociopathic dictator. The Constitution prevents that. IMHO.

Excuse the ramble.

15 posted on 09/22/2012 7:42:50 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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LOL Don’t be silly, dear. All we’d need is a couple of dozen cruise ships. Send them off in style, since we won’t have to support their sorry behinds anymore & will be saving a fortune in law enforcement & court costs...
I guess they would need accommodations while waiting to depart, though.


16 posted on 09/22/2012 7:43:01 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: Lazamataz

Carbon is a constituent of many types of powder you know.
A plus could be a small profit on the recovered heavy metals. I don’t know the current price of gold or silver.


17 posted on 09/22/2012 8:18:03 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: KGeorge

Remember that bad pennies have a tendency to come back; unless of course, you mean to use them for submarine/surface warfare practice. And I don’t believe I made any mention of courts or trials in my previous post.


18 posted on 09/22/2012 8:25:50 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Lazamataz

lol


19 posted on 09/22/2012 8:29:09 PM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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To: 5th MEB

There’s always liberalwurst dog treats.


20 posted on 09/22/2012 8:38:51 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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