Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Muslims and Christians explore common bonds during Iraqi Kurdsí visit to Duluth
Duluth News Tribune ^ | 9/20/12 | : John Lundy

Posted on 09/20/2012 6:24:54 AM PDT by DManA

Religion doesn’t have to be a barrier between the East and the West, a member of an Iraqi delegation visiting Duluth told a group on Wednesday.

“We are all brothers. We are all from the same father and mother,” said Abdullah Adm, director of Muslim clerics in Rania, a Kurdish city in northeastern Iraq that has an ongoing relationship with Duluth. “As Muslim believers we think that all religions are correct. We believe in all the messages of other religions, because all of them are messages from God.”

(Excerpt) Read more at duluthnewstribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS:
Good news citizens. We've been all wrong about Islam. It IS a religion of peace.

Now go back to sleep.

1 posted on 09/20/2012 6:24:56 AM PDT by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: DManA
We all eat, shit and piss ... outside of that I can see NO common anything.
2 posted on 09/20/2012 6:29:21 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA

An introductory lesson and example on the principle of al-Taqiyya, wherein lying is not only permitted, but obligatory if the lie serves the higher purpose.


3 posted on 09/20/2012 6:33:23 AM PDT by calico_thompson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA

That is stupid. There are no common bonds. They hate us. End of story


4 posted on 09/20/2012 6:37:17 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA
Seems to me that every time I've heard that, it was stated in the aftermath of an event that would otherwise suggest something much different.

So it all comes down to, "Who are you going to believe? Yet another shiite-for-brains apologist, or your own lyin' eyes?"

I'd made my choice a very long time ago; MUCH earlier than 9-11-01, in fact.
5 posted on 09/20/2012 6:37:55 AM PDT by MarineDad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: calico_thompson

Well, someone’s practicing deception here: it could be the cleric engaged in taqiyya, or the media who love to trot out Muslims of the minority sects (like the Ahmadis, the Ismaelis, the Qu’ran-only movement, and some Sufi sects) which actually are fairly peaceful and tolerant, and may have found a Kurdish Sufi who suit their “narrative”.


6 posted on 09/20/2012 6:39:41 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: DManA

Seems to me this is the 21st Century equivilent of eating foods sacrificed to idols.


7 posted on 09/20/2012 6:42:09 AM PDT by circlecity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA
"We believe in all the messages of other religions, because all of them are messages from God.”

Hm. How does God's message to the Jews that they will not murder - "will not" as in "Period. I will not be repeating myself. End of discussion." - jive with "Allah's" "Go ahead and murder anyone you want...so long as they're not muslim"?

Oh. Wait. Nevermind. I forgot that your little pig-idol also "said" it was OK to lie to non-Muslims.

Photobucket
8 posted on 09/20/2012 6:43:52 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA
“As Muslim believers we think that all religions are correct. We believe in all the messages of other religions, because all of them are messages from God.”

He is lying

The Koran:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Sura (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Sura (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Sura (47:4) - "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make them prisoners,"

Sura (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end

From the Hadith:

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’”

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

9 posted on 09/20/2012 6:44:50 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA

Since we used internment camps for innocent Japanese citizens during WWII, internment is just what is needed for ALL MUDSLIMES until their deportation.

There will never be any co-existance with these devils and there will be little to no co-existance with the illegal, Spainish speaking know nothings that today clog up this society.

Gentleman Bird and I had a lot in common. We both wanted a Great Society. The only difference we had was that I wanted the entire population of do-nothing trash to have their own kingdom along with the homosexuals and criminal class.


10 posted on 09/20/2012 6:46:26 AM PDT by IbJensen (Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Psycho_Bunny

Anyone that has given serious study of both religions knows that the characteristics of each God and his commandments are VERY different andthat Yahweh and Allah are NOT the same. Anyone that says different does not know hatthey are talking about and should be dismissed.


11 posted on 09/20/2012 6:47:20 AM PDT by jsanders2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: DManA

The mush-heads in Duluth love this kind of kumbaya klaptrap. It fits well with their union-centric “love us or we’ll bust yer head” philosophy.


12 posted on 09/20/2012 6:50:11 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: calico_thompson

Taqiyya Bump. And shout it from the house tops!


13 posted on 09/20/2012 6:56:21 AM PDT by upchuck (If nobama is reelected and gets to choose more SCOTUS judges, this country is finished.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: DManA

Who do they think they are fooling?

Oh right, the dhimmiland


14 posted on 09/20/2012 6:59:00 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jsanders2001

I don’t want to sound like I’m argueing with you but, I’m an agnostic who accepts the word “Yahweh” describes God.

But the word “Allah”, describes a mental disorder.


15 posted on 09/20/2012 7:01:10 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The word "Allah" describes a mental disorder.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: DManA

Ease off of them hammers. These are *Kurds*. They are not only very liberal by Middle East standards, but have quietly been working with Israel for their mutual benefit.

They are very pro-United States, and were very disappointed that the US did not establish a major base in their territory.

The Kurds’ enemies are the Arabs, Turks, and Iranians, all of whom would gladly obliterate the Kurds (and the Kurds have allegedly even provide passage through Iraq for Israelis enroute to Iran for, you know, this and that.)

Add to that the Kurdish “eccentricity”. During the Saddam years, Kurdish families of means sent their sons West to Europe and the US to become both educated and wise in the ways of technology, diplomacy and politics. And after Saddam fell, these men, many with advanced degrees, came home and became the new leaders of Iraqi Kurdistan.

The eccentric part is that the Kurds wanted the smart, well spoken men as leaders, instead of the usual Imam-types. And that wisdom has paid off in spades for the Kurds. Kurdistan has been economically developing at a very fast clip, into a modern, western style semi-country. They are effectively autonomous as part of Iraq.

Their growth in their capital city, Erbil, has been compared to that of Dubai.

If you ever get a chance to hear one of their leaders speak, do so, as they are both erudite and speak in impeccable English. And they actually have something intelligent to say.


16 posted on 09/20/2012 7:02:19 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yldstrk
Unfortunately, Duluthians are such liberal saps they'll believe this.
17 posted on 09/20/2012 7:10:10 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: yldstrk

You will find the occasional Muslim individual willing to express such thoughts. Clearly they do not represent the whole however.


18 posted on 09/20/2012 7:11:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: DManA

As much as I would love to see this be real, I’m afraid that I no longer believe any muslim.

When their very “holy” book encourages them to lie and kill, sorry folks, but I believe them as much as I believe Dan Rather.


19 posted on 09/20/2012 7:14:46 AM PDT by Da Coyote
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FatherofFive

you nailed it.
...you should email that, to Mr John Lundy.
who may not know, he is being lied to.
-
every Imam i talked to, believes all other religions are false. as the Quran clearly teaches...


20 posted on 09/20/2012 7:30:49 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I agree with you about the Kurds. A lot of admirable things about them and they’ve been tragically oppressed.


21 posted on 09/20/2012 7:47:11 AM PDT by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I agree with you about the Kurds. A lot of admirable things about them and they’ve been tragically oppressed.


22 posted on 09/20/2012 7:47:20 AM PDT by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: DManA

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.


23 posted on 09/20/2012 7:48:59 AM PDT by THE UNDISPUTED TRUTH (Islam: the original killer app)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA

The Duluth Bews Tribune seems to be playing with it’s ediorial “we we”.


24 posted on 09/20/2012 8:09:38 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Well then, the Kurds do not sound like very good Muslims, do they?


25 posted on 09/20/2012 10:12:07 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: TexasRepublic

I think they realized a long time ago that other Muslims do not give a squat that Kurds are Muslims, and will just as ruthlessly exterminate them as they would any other infidel.

However, by being Muslim themselves, it turns the aggression of other Muslims from active (like they have for Jews and Christians), to passive. That is, other Muslims need to have some other reason, no matter how petty, to slaughter Kurds; they are not under any religious obligation to do so.

There have been times when the Kurds were just about wiped out, along with several other groups in the region, and were saved only because their oppressors lost interest.

In any event, I do not blame the Kurds for wanting to make alliances with powerful friends, even Israel.


26 posted on 09/20/2012 11:06:44 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Elendur
every Imam i talked to, believes all other religions are false. as the Quran clearly teaches...

The only good Muslim is a bad Muslim.

27 posted on 09/20/2012 11:47:48 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Elendur
...every Imam i talked to, believes all other religions are false. as the Quran clearly teaches...

Every Pastor I talk to, believes all other religions are false. as the Bibile clearly teaches...

Islam does not differ from Christianity and Judaism on this point - only in the degree of its willingness to obliterate infidels for fun and profit.

28 posted on 09/21/2012 6:16:09 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson