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Black Woman Stands Her Ground, Kills White Man
Spero News ^ | 9/18/12 | Martin Barillas

Posted on 09/18/2012 4:47:55 PM PDT by AstralisLux

Houston area investigators are looking into a stand-your-ground case where after a minor fender-bender, a 22-year-old white male was shot and killed by a 23-year-old black woman. During a morning commute, Crystal Scott and Jonathan Ables were in an accident and pulled into a Shell gasoline station to survey the damage...

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To: shoedog

Well put. Thank you.


41 posted on 09/18/2012 5:36:03 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: AstralisLux
The article was hard to follow, but it sounds like an itchy trigger finger to me. This was not a back alley, she had no bodily harm, this was a public place, broad daylight.

While it may have been scary (it would have been for me at 23, no matter the color of those involved)the article does not lead me to believe it was a life threatening situation.

I dare say that the breakdown in race relations caused the fear this poor young woman felt, perhaps even the anger the white guy felt.

I hate to sound racist, but the closest calls I've had on the road recently in big Texas cities, were caused by black women drivers (I am white and a woman). The black women I've “encountered”; two of which, would have caused a major wreck if I had not been aware - didn't even bother to look when changing lanes - they just considered it their due to pull in front of a vehicle doing 70 MPH.

They gots rights after all.

42 posted on 09/18/2012 5:36:43 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: AstralisLux
I literally had a road rager try to break my window as my .357 sat
silently by my side and out of sight. The police knew I had it, but the idiot didn't.
I had no intention of using it unless he got through the window, and no need to.
I let the police handle it and they threw the book at him for sheer stupidity
as they pointed out my NRA plates.

This was cold blooded murder because of race, and by god she was
going to even the score taught to her though brainwashing from the Justice Brothers.

I never walk up to a vehicles window, even if there's an accident.
Let the police sort it out.

43 posted on 09/18/2012 5:37:06 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: AstralisLux

We Texans will show those idiots in Fla how justice is done.
It will be based on facts and not race.


44 posted on 09/18/2012 5:42:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: AstralisLux

RACE shouldn’t matter in self defense but here it likely will but in the opposite of usual

Houston is a very race preference town nowadays..so Mike Berry sez


45 posted on 09/18/2012 5:46:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (this is a perfect window for Netanyahu to bomb Iran..I hereby give my go ahead..thanks Muzzie idiots)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I’ll bet she was on her way to get some “Skillets candy” and Arizona Iced Tea.

Trayvon actually was carrying an Arizona watermelon cocktail.

46 posted on 09/18/2012 5:49:13 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Hmm. Perhaps you like to further explain your post at 3. You’re coming off as being bigoted and I’m sure you didn’t intend that. Particularly given the mods low tolerance level for those kind of remarks.


47 posted on 09/18/2012 5:50:55 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Vote for willard - he doesn't need to earn your vote, he's entitled to it.)
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To: shoedog

If they were in a gas station IT WILL be on film.


48 posted on 09/18/2012 5:51:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: COBOL2Java

And it’d be one of the few times I agreed with eric holder.


49 posted on 09/18/2012 5:52:55 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Vote for willard - he doesn't need to earn your vote, he's entitled to it.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Self defense is self defense; race makes no impact.


That all depends on the opinion of the the U.S. Department of “Just Us.”


50 posted on 09/18/2012 5:57:49 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: AstralisLux

I hope they found the bullet. It either broke the window, or it did not break the window. Also, there will be lots of glass powder on the victim if the window was broken by a bullet.

If she lied about the window, she’s guilty, if she didn’t lie, she goes home free.


51 posted on 09/18/2012 5:58:39 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: AstralisLux

Police reports are funny things. Police will write some things in them and then change their own testimony in court when they are under oath.


52 posted on 09/18/2012 6:04:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: AstralisLux

Sort of hard to. Believe it was in self defense when she simply could have rolled up her window and locked the door or driven away....

I think she panicked and made a very bad mistake...

I am sure the shell station has cameras...video doesn’t lie...


53 posted on 09/18/2012 6:07:19 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: Born to Conserve

The article said that the “eyewitness” filling his tank of gas had his car window shattered by the stray bullet. So it went through her window. It’s not known yet how many times she fired and she’s no longer talking.


54 posted on 09/18/2012 6:07:38 PM PDT by AstralisLux
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To: AstralisLux

Not all gun wielding motorists in road rage incidents have a good excuse:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2932954/posts
Nassau couple charged after sex on the highway turns to confrontation
The Florida Times-Union ^ | September 18, 2012 | Dana Treen

Passion in a moving car on Interstate 95 ended in a Fernandina Beach couple’s arrest Sunday when another motorist who witnessed the sex was followed by the lovers and confronted, according to an arrest report.

In addition to indecent exposure, Ernest Felix Gonzales, 27, and Suzanne Welker, 31, were charged Sunday with aggravated assault for pulling a gun, according to the Nassau County Sheriff’s Office.

Around 3 p.m. Sunday near the Nassau County line, a man and woman engaged in a sex act were spotted from the another lane. Then the woman, who the report said was “naked and could be seen clearly by everyone in the area,” started to climb into the driver’s lap.

Louis Carr, 24, told deputies the driver, later identified as Gonzales, slowed down as soon as he realized people were watching.

He got behind Carr’s pickup and began tailgating and trying to pass.


When Carr pulled into the parking lot, an angry Gonzales jumped out of the sport utility vehicle and Welker got out with a gun at her side. When a woman at the business told Welker they didn’t want a gun there, it was pointed at her, the report said.


55 posted on 09/18/2012 6:09:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Popman

The video will definitely show at least a semblance of what happened.

Apparently, the guy who was shot had an aggressive personality.


56 posted on 09/18/2012 6:10:03 PM PDT by AstralisLux
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To: a fool in paradise

Eyewitness testimony has proven to be almost useless in most cases. The video will be the testimony that matters. Road rage is too common to discount, but this could go against the shooter. Not making judgement until there is some unimpeachable evidence. This is not even comparable to the Florida case


57 posted on 09/18/2012 6:13:51 PM PDT by Figment
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To: AstralisLux

The Texas Stand Your Ground law allows for a reasonable use of deadly force if an intruder is unlawfully trying to enter a protected space. In this case, under the law, her car was the protected space and if he placed his hand on the door handle then she could reasonably assume he was attempting an illegal entry. She didn’t have to wait until he had opened the door or entered the car, under the law she has the right to shoot him. It’s a tragic death, but the law is what it is.


58 posted on 09/18/2012 6:15:57 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: wardaddy
Houston is a very race preference town nowadays..so Mike Berry sez

Well it is certainly sex conscious now that we have a lesbian mayor. She accused strip joint patrons of being potential rapists and added a $5 entry fee tax to fund the city's backlogged rape test kits.

And we've also seen an end to topless nudity (have to wear pasties and even booty shorts) while anything goes (including screwing in the bathrooms of bars) at the city's Gay Pride parade.

And then there is the double standard that saw George Grenias keep his job after using a city computer to troll for teenaged rent boys (prostitutes) even though the less than steller Chuck Rosenthal lost his job for engaging in adultery with salacious emails exchanged with a woman. They may say it was the "racist" cartoon about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson tossing a coin into a wishing well to see an end to racism only to disappear themselves (both men are well known antisemites who use phrases like Hymietown and Jew Them Down).

Such is live in this Democrat run "paradise".

59 posted on 09/18/2012 6:15:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas

I did that once as a teenager shooting a squalling cat outside with a 22 short. No one heard the shot outside, it woke everyone in the house though


60 posted on 09/18/2012 6:17:48 PM PDT by Figment
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