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Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Say
SPACE.com ^ | 2012-09-17 | Clara Moskowitz

Posted on 09/17/2012 10:28:10 AM PDT by justlurking

A warp drive to achieve faster-than-light travel — a concept popularized in television's Star Trek — may not be as unrealistic as once thought, scientists say.

A warp drive would manipulate space-time itself to move a starship, taking advantage of a loophole in the laws of physics that prevent anything from moving faster than light. A concept for a real-life warp drive was suggested in 1994 by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre, however subsequent calculations found that such a device would require prohibitive amounts of energy.

Now physicists say that adjustments can be made to the proposed warp drive that would enable it to run on significantly less energy, potentially bringing the idea back from the realm of science fiction into science.

"There is hope," Harold "Sonny" White of NASA's Johnson Space Center said here Friday (Sept. 14) at the 100 Year Starship Symposium, a meeting to discuss the challenges of interstellar spaceflight.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Technical; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aerospace; alcubierre; alcubierredrive; ftl; haroldgwhite; haroldsonnywhite; nasa; stringtheory; warpdrive
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Theoretically the vessel would not be moving any faster, but the effects on humans from passing into warped space would have to be studied. Warped humans??


21 posted on 09/17/2012 10:48:19 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

The beauty of it is that for the vehicle inside the warp there is very little (if any) acceleration or deceleration. The vehicle itself is moving at much slower speeds within the warp bubble while space itself is moved around it. In theory the vehicle could remain stationary.


22 posted on 09/17/2012 10:49:15 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: mc5cents

It’s dilithium ;-)


23 posted on 09/17/2012 10:50:02 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: DannyTN

Okay, thanks.

That sort of makes sense....kind of mind bending too!


24 posted on 09/17/2012 10:50:13 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

It’s tough to wrap your mind around but the bubble doesn’t actually move. You need to break out of the mindset that there is some sort of definite, unchanging, grid of “space” that you “move” through.


25 posted on 09/17/2012 10:50:45 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Squawk 8888
It’s dilithium ;-)

...encased in pure unobtainium.

26 posted on 09/17/2012 10:51:16 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Squawk 8888; GeronL

Thanks guys, I’m getting it now.


27 posted on 09/17/2012 10:51:36 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: tanknetter

It is established. It’s the next part in Einstein’s treatise where he said we couldn’t break the speed of light. Everybody pays attention to his energy curve part but only the hardcore nerd bother with the part where he says the solution is to condense space within a field and fly through that. I don’t know if anybody in Star Trek had actually read that part when they came up with the warp bubble, but the concept definitely pre-exists Trek.


28 posted on 09/17/2012 10:51:58 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: justlurking
ZPE. Field theory to "flip" matter to anti-matter. Tap the quantum foam directly for power.

Energy may not be the tough part here.

Even an "exotic" material will need to interact with space/time in ways that nothing else has been able to do that we have found to date. I'm interested in seeing exactly what criteria they think will be required to get this perturbation of space/time to occur within their parameters.

29 posted on 09/17/2012 10:52:13 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: justlurking
A concept for a real-life warp drive was suggested in 1994 by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre

Interstellar Low Rider?


30 posted on 09/17/2012 10:52:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: justlurking

31 posted on 09/17/2012 10:52:16 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“What’s the matter Colonel Sanders? Are you chicken?”


32 posted on 09/17/2012 10:52:29 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: justlurking

33 posted on 09/17/2012 10:54:16 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Because you are changing your “at rest” state relative to local gravity. With a warp drive like this, it is that “local gravity” that is moving. You’d feel nothing.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 10:54:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: DannyTN

Ok, but what happens to everybody and everything between NYC and Nashville. There has to be some consequence to bending space.


35 posted on 09/17/2012 10:55:02 AM PDT by okkev68
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To: Renderofveils
So to alleviate the device's requiring prohibitive amounts of energy to operate, it just needs to be made out of particles that haven't even been encountered.

Yeah....I'll get right on that.

I suppose that it's good for people to dream. My only problem is when "dreams" get reported as "news". Or worse, "science".

36 posted on 09/17/2012 10:56:01 AM PDT by wbill
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To: okkev68

Very bad things, which is why it’s only for interstellar space travel, where there’s nothing to be squished.


37 posted on 09/17/2012 10:57:18 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: okkev68

eh, flyover country...

seriously... you wouldn’t warp space anywhere near a planet or even within the solar system ideally.


38 posted on 09/17/2012 10:58:18 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Renderofveils

“You can theoretically create an environment in which a perpetual motion machine will work.”

I see you’ve met the Democrat Party.


39 posted on 09/17/2012 10:59:37 AM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Because you are changing your “at rest” state relative to local gravity.
With a warp drive like this, it is that “local gravity” that is moving.
You’d feel nothing.
thanks, that's very understandable....

40 posted on 09/17/2012 10:59:47 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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