Posted on 09/15/2012 7:40:08 PM PDT by Fred
SEPTEMBER 14--In remarks stressing that the U.S. government had “absolutely nothing to do with” the anti-Islam film that has touched off violence in the Middle East, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton yesterday sought to quash Arab concerns that the “disgusting and reprehensible” movie was somehow produced or condoned by American officials.
However, Clinton’s attempt to distance the U.S. from “Innocence of Muslims”--and, by extension, its felonious producer--may be complicated by the revelation that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula became a government informant after his 2009 arrest for bank fraud, The Smoking Gun has learned.
Though many key documents from the U.S. District Court case remain sealed, a June 2010 sentencing transcript provides an account of Nakoula’s cooperation with federal investigators in Los Angeles (and how his prison sentence was reduced as a result).
Nakoula, 55, was arrested in June 2009 for his role in a check-kiting ring that stole nearly $800,000 from six financial institutions by using stolen Social Security numbers and identities. Nakoula was named in a six-count felony indictment accusing him and unnamed “co-schemers” of perpetrating the bank fraud.
(Excerpt) Read more at thesmokinggun.com ...
Now where have I heard that before....?
In other words he is a left wing operative
Bank fraud? Stolen social security numbers? A sloppily cobbled together movie that inexplicably attracts a great deal of attention? A fake name or names and some considerable confusion about the individual’s identity and religion?
Hmmm! Why is this beginning to sound vaguely like a Democratic [sic] party operation? All that’s missing that I can think of is a trail of money and/or a Department of Energy “green” fantasy guarantee.
Someone? Anyone?
by using stolen Social Security numbers
Glad he was arrested for breaking the law. Using that same standard, then why haven't millions of illegal immigrants been arrested for the same thing?
Drink
So maybe now they’ll suddenly become aware of the many reports that the film was merely a pretext.
Thanks Fred.
no..something strange is going on here. left wind film clip, dead gay diplomat form chicago. vacume created in middle east. no 911 high alert, intel ordered to pull out 6 months ag0..then Hillary says she cant believe it and O insults Israel..Maybe all this is aimed at weakening this country...destroying our power in the world. Looks pretty much like thats what has happened ..in less than 4 years..bringing us down is what the terrorist wanted to do and look who helped them.
There’s always the possibility that 0 is indeed a Manchurian candidate. Not only do we not know anything about his past, but that includes what he did while overseas as a child and as a young adult.
Does this make him one of Holder's people?
I don’t care if they find video of these guys eating puppies, this entire mess is Obama and Clintons FAILURE. THEY are the ones with blood on their hands.
that and the fact that he is a total fail and has the same child like outlook as those rioters..I do believe he is Manchurian candidate. but who ever built him has a reason for destroying the country..every thing seems to lead back to his radical pals and past.
Per 2016 The Movie obama doesn’t want to bring third world countries up. He want to turn the U.S. into a third world country. And he’s succeeding. What I can’t under stand is why is there no one trying to stop him?
Anti, if it’s proven he is a government snitch obama and Hillary will have to say “The movie didn’t have anything to do with after all.”
Did you see the photo op with the caskets? Hillary looked like she is extremely afraid of obama.
We don't know anything about him, and yet our press gives him a pass. It's disgusting.
yes I noticed Hilary..and you are right. no one is trying to stop him..Republicans should be having fits..but they are not...his own party if they love this country at all sould be saying something...but no they dont say anything at all.
I still don't understand her thing with Huma, and what connections MB may have through her to the administration. I'm very suspicious of all that.
I shall say it again.
This is a DNC op.
Starting with Obama adviser Eric Schmidt head of Google , allowing the Vid in ME ips.
The WH was not reluctant to use a General to pressure the Florida pastor to shut up , but somehow simply forgot to ask Google to allow posting - but not in the ME IPs.
And you must also doubt that reporters collude on questions to Mitt.
Or that no collusion exits between MSM and the W.H.
Or Hollywood and the W.H.
what if all of this is a smokesceen for something else.I still think its strange the ambasador was from Chicago, gay and no high alert.
If this really is about idiot muslim throwing a fit over a youtube film clip..and anyone in our goverment is sayig sorry. Then expect LA style riots forever. We should be calling them stupic looking idiots because thats what they are and backward to go with it.
It’s looking more and more like this film was supposed to the first amendment what Fast & Furious was supposed to be to the second. F&F was about finding a pretext to ban guns, and this looks like a pretext to go after free speech.
And with similar botched results: some dead public servants, and an utterly incoherent policy that must have our enemies (be they drug cartels, islamonazis, or adverse foreign powers) in stitches...
“If this were a Republican administration...” you know the rest of the sentence.
I can’t really tell if she looks scared or not from the pictures I’ve seen. She does look upset. But he could easily have her taken out wherever she is now and he can blame it on “Muslim unrest.” She’s gotta be worried a little.
“If this really is about idiot muslim throwing a fit over a youtube film clip.”
Then what happens next year when they have nukes and some nut posts a charred Quran on line?
Why is Bill Maher still above ground? Ever see his Religulous ? The Muzzies would have taken him out by now.
Bingo.
This is a DNC op beginning to end.
Look, there was an army of reporters, fleets of news trucks, news choppers, etc., around and above this guys home, it's no secret where he lives.
". . .Stolen social security numbers? A sloppily cobbled together movie. . ."With the qualifications listed above, one wonders if his resume floated to the surface when the-current-occupant-of-the-oval office needed to present certain documentation over the years.
I also suspect that group-think and a kind of 'nationalism' and one-up-manship play a large role.
I have to agree with you. The parallels are eery.
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I haven't noticed her expressions. Can you refer me to the photo? Thanks!
I said “pictures” but I meant the actual event. I watched it live. She was practically on her knees. And it looked to me like she was frigtened.
I said “pictures” but I meant the actual event. I watched it live. She was practically on her knees. And it looked to me like she was frigtened.
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That’s because Hillary, no less than Obama, is complicit in the death of the Ambassador and others by her negligence, bad decisions and undisciplined belief in everything her aide (plus Muslim Brotherhood contact and passion flower) Huma Abedin advices her on.
There is a lot of desperate Obama administration covering up going on while we resting this weekend and not paying attention. If necessary, Obama will throw Hillary under the bus and/or initiate a “wag the dog” operation to distract attention.
“this film was supposed to the first amendment what Fast & Furious was supposed to be to the second”
correct
See Bachmann’s speech from yesterday. Also, this dovetails nicely with obozo’s plan to take over the internet with an executive order.
They should start with Bath House Barry.
IOWs the FedMob had something to hold over this guy’s head.
Maybe we should send them a Maher clip,,hahaha
Ok, i thought Fed Snitchbegan sounded like a made up name, but after reading the title again, I see that it was simply a typo.
Never ever trust a snitchbegan!
Can you say “false flag”?
“Nakoula called the Coptic Bishop of Los Angeles, Bishop Serapion, and denied any involvement.”
The Bishop said a few days ago that he knew him but he didn’t attend Church.
LOL!
May the video be viewed in Canada, the EU, the OIC, and anywhere else it may be deemed illegal or politically incorrect!
“It’s looking more and more like this film was supposed to the first amendment what Fast & Furious was supposed to be to the second. F&F was about finding a pretext to ban guns, and this looks like a pretext to go after free speech.”
I agree with you. Some think it’s about the blind sheik but something tells me it’s about the UN Resolution 16/18 which both Obama and Hillary support.
When one watches these riots and gets reports there’s usually no surprises. We see the reporter interviewing one or more of the male protestors, people we’ve seen minutes before leading the parade and goading the followers. They’re usually decent looking w/ intense serious eyes, decently clad, and English speaking. And they all have a demand, shared w/ the reporters in increments, the major goal coming at the end. One can watch them write the actual story for the reporters.
Here’s an example...
[...] Standing in front of the new wall, the demonstrators’ demands were a moving target. Some said THEY WANTED the United States to APOLOGIZE for the video. Told that both Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had condemned the video earlier this week, they then said THEY WANTED an INVESTIGATION. Told that the U.S. was looking into the video, they said THEY WANTED it REMOVED from YouTube, a step outside U.S. government control. [...]Nearby, Mustafa Amin, 26, an unemployed teaching school graduate, PROPOSED AN INTERNATIONAL LAW “ that would CRIMINALIZE ANY ASSAULT ON THE PROPHET. And it should be under the supervision of the United Nations.”
http://www.stripes.com/news/vi...
Bottomline: criminalize speech.
International Law - UN Resolution 16/18:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ab...
How Obama Engineered Mideast Radicalization
http://news.investors.com/ibd-...
HILLARY CLINTON’S CLOSE TIES TO THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
http://gillreport.com/2012/06/hillary-clintons-close-ties-to-the-muslim-brotherhood/
Obama vs. the First Amendment
In 2009, the Obama State Department ceremoniously joined with Muslim governments to propose a United Nations resolution that, as legal commentator Stuart Taylor observed, was “all-too-friendly to censoring speech that some religions and races find offensive.” Titled “Freedom of Opinion and Expression” — a name only an Alinskyite or a Muslim Brotherhood tactician could love — the resolution was the latest salvo in a years-long campaign by the 57-government Organization of the Islamic Conference (now renamed the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation”). The OIC’s explicit goal is to coerce the West into adopting sharia, particularly its “defamation” standards. [...]
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/321039/obama-vs-first-amendment-andrew-c-mccarthy#
There may be no anti-Islamic movie at all (dubbing...):
http://www.csmonitor.com/World...
Do you remember the American version of the mohammed cartoons that started the riots in Europe and the Middle East a few years ago, which was later established that some of the more inflammatory cartoons were created by the mullahs who were preaching jihad in Europe. What’s to stop them from doing the same thing to this movie. And being a Coptic it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the guy has family in Egypt and he’s been coerced. Anyway all I know is that it reeks of malfeasence.
Note: Sometimes one needs reminding that the gaols of Islam and National Socialism are basically the same. Hitler also enjoyed an alliance with the Muslim Brotherhood.
I’m trying to pin down how Steve Klein is connected to this movie. Is it true he’s also anti- Catholic and anti-Mormon?
“But a Christian activist involved in the film project, Steve Klein, told the AP on Wednesday that Bacile was a pseudonym and that the man was Christian. Klein had told the AP on Tuesday that the filmmaker was an Israeli Jew who was concerned for family members who live in Egypt”
[Then there is information that Klein ran for the California Insurance Commissioner under the American Independent Party in 2000]. Knowing that, it makes it hard to connect this exclusively to the Left.....????
I can’t connect all the dots. They keep going off in different directions.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2930826/posts
An initial report about the federal probation review appeared in The Wall Street Journal.
There are indications that "Innocence of Muslims" may have already been under way as a film project when Mr. Nakoula was arrested. A casting call for actors and crew for a film called "Desert Warrior" ran in Backstage magazine, based in Los Angeles and New York, in May and June 2009. The casting call described the film project as a "historical Arabian Desert adventure" and listed a "Sam Bassiel" as producer.................."
WSJ - Sept 15, 2012: Authorities Interview U.S. Filmmaker
Thanks Fred.
Actually Bishop Serapion said that Nakoula only attended his home parish sporadically. (Even in a close-knit community like the Coptic church in the U.S. it is very unlikely that a bishop would know one of his flock who didn’t attend church at all.)
Still, the question is, why did the not-particularly-pious Nakoula go to the trouble of calling his bishop to deny involvement?
I’m wondering whether there isn’t a convoluted money trail here — given Nakoula’s past — and Nakoula is being played as a patsy by Egyptian Salafists who wanted a provocation supposedly created by Copts and Jews. Did he produce the film, but not the dubs posted to YouTube? Is he really the “Sam Bacile” who opened the YouTube account — a question that, alas, can’t be answered without him admitting it, if he is, or access to the IP addresses from which the account was opened and the videos uploaded to prove one way or the other otherwise?
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