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U.S. Is Preparing for a Long Siege of Arab Unrest
The New York Times ^ | September 15, 2012 | PETER BAKER and MARK LANDLER

Posted on 09/15/2012 11:31:46 AM PDT by mdittmar

WASHINGTON — After days of anti-American violence across the Muslim world, the White House is girding itself for an extended period of turmoil that will test the security of American diplomatic missions and President Obama’s ability to shape the forces of change in the Arab world.

Although the tumult subsided Saturday, senior administration officials said they had concluded that the sometimes violent protests in Muslim countries may presage a sustained crisis with unpredictable diplomatic and political consequences. While pressing Arab leaders to tamp down the unrest, Mr. Obama and his advisers are left to consider whether to scale back diplomatic activities in the region.

The unrest has suddenly become Mr. Obama’s most serious foreign policy crisis of the election season, and analysts say it is calling into question central tenets of his Middle East policy. Did he do enough throughout the Arab Spring to help the transition to democracy from autocracy? Has he drawn a hard enough line against Islamic extremists? Did his administration fail to address security concerns? Has his outreach to the Muslim world yielded any lasting benefits?

These questions come at an inopportune time domestically as Mr. Obama enters the last stages of a campaign season with a measurable lead in polls.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911ii; blindsheikh; egypt; elections; enemedia; foreignpolicy; imamobama; libya; marxistbrotherhood; middleeast; muslimbrotherhood; nytimes; obama; statedept; wagthevideo
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1 posted on 09/15/2012 11:31:48 AM PDT by mdittmar
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2 posted on 09/15/2012 11:33:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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The Arab desert needs to be preserved. It should be encased under a thin layer of glass.


3 posted on 09/15/2012 11:35:47 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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4 posted on 09/15/2012 11:36:11 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: mdittmar

Talk about watered down. Were they this weak and insipid during Carter’s?


5 posted on 09/15/2012 11:37:08 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: mdittmar
...and President Obama’s ability to shape the forces of change in the Arab world.

Hasn't he done enough 'shaping'?

6 posted on 09/15/2012 11:37:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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7 posted on 09/15/2012 11:38:08 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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To: mdittmar

From the last paragraph:

“...he suffered from an intelligence breakdown...”

How would he know if he never attends the briefing or were they referring to Obama’s intelligence?


8 posted on 09/15/2012 11:38:17 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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the White House is girding itself for an extended period of turmoil

Who makes up this SLOCK and calls it news reporting?!

The fricking White House is in Vegas, stuffing his pockets. What a joke this has become. They even blame this on a fricking utube flick, when it was 911! Just a co-inky dink surely, 911 means nothing...

It seems Islam has not forgotten it is a war with us, even though the entire Congress, Whitey House and the Merged-Media propaganda outlets have.

9 posted on 09/15/2012 11:38:47 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: mdittmar

Perhaps his people should read memri which quoted a threat from a jihad forum:

This MEMRI JTTM report was released four days before the demonstration in Cairo, on September 7.

On September 7, 2012, Nasser Al-Qaeda, a prominent writer on the Jihadi forum Shumoukh Al-Islam suggested burning down the U.S. embassy in Egypt with all workers inside in order to pressure the U.S. to release Sheikh ‘Omar ‘Abd Al-Rahman aka the Blind Sheikh. In the post, titled “How can the U.S. embassy remain in Egypt while [the U.S.] imprisons Sheikh ‘Omar ‘Abd Al-Rahman,” Nasser Al-Qaeda wrote: “Oh people of Egypt, it is time [to launch] a powerful movement to liberate the mujahid Sheikh ‘Omar ‘Abd Al-Rahman.


10 posted on 09/15/2012 11:42:28 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: mdittmar
The film is no more the cause of the outrage than the kidnapping and beheading of Nick Berg in an Islamic snuff film was a response to the Abu Ghraib photos.

If you'll recall, Nick Berg had been held captive for a month by the time he was brutally murdered on video in the wake of the Abu Ghraib snowstorm in the American media (the culprits were already under prosecution and in fact the photos were released by one of the men when he was unable to secure a plea bargain arrangement to not release them, some would say that is blackmailing the government but I digress).

Another AlQaeda kidnap victim had escaped captivity the week before and was revealing details of his detention. Nick Berg posed a risk and AQ decided it was best to kill him while claiming the higher moral ground.

11 posted on 09/15/2012 11:43:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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No,back then on news I remember every night,”Day 200 of the Hostage Crisis”,”Day 201 of the Hostage Crises”etc.,etc.
I was a kid back then,but I thought,who is this fool we have running our Country,same thing I’m thinking now.


12 posted on 09/15/2012 11:44:37 AM PDT by mdittmar
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Wow. All “prolonged unrest” for a video. How strange Arabs think!

Well, it must be partly Bush’s fault. How is Obama going to “shape the mideast” when people are allowed to make such videos?

Hey, I have one bright weird spot. I took a trip to DU (I know, I know, I took a shower) and they actually think the government bothering the filmmaker is WRONG! How I wish they could then draw the line to where the REAL problem lies - a self-decieving policy on the part of this amateur president in throwing out our best friend in the ME besides Israel- but that’s much too hard a step, I’m sure.


13 posted on 09/15/2012 11:48:25 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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14 posted on 09/15/2012 11:49:13 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Every conservative knew the attacks were coming... 3.5 years ago when Obama was elected.)
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To: gorush

What I was thinking. Put Quickgun as commander. Siege much shorter.


15 posted on 09/15/2012 11:49:50 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: mdittmar

Fourteen-hundred years and these people haven’t gotten anywhere other than they have modern weapons and cell phones. We should just leave them to consume themselves in their own hatred.


16 posted on 09/15/2012 11:52:52 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: mdittmar
It is not "Arab Unrest". Islam is at war with us. Denials from obama and clinton are ridiculous. Islam wants to degrade, diminish, attack, and ultimately destroy America and especially to destroy what America stands for. Obama and Clinton are just part of the overall plan.

For flying off to a campaign fund-raiser in Las Vegas at the height of the crisis, obama should be impeached for dereliction of duty. He went AWOL.

A real American president would say that attacks on the US will be met in-kind. We will close our embassy and leave your people unemployed. We will send your diplomats and all their related intelligence gatherers home from America so they will lose their opulent lifestyles here. We will expose their adulterous lives here. We will publish photos and films of their diplomats drinking alcohol. We will cut off all monetary aid to your country - top to bottom. We will close your mosques. We will restrict official and tourist travel to your country. We will boycott your goods. We are freezing all your assets inside the United States.

And that is just for "openers"?

17 posted on 09/15/2012 11:53:45 AM PDT by Rapscallion (A successful Obama will be a tyrant over America.)
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Bump!


18 posted on 09/15/2012 11:57:41 AM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Empty chair, empty suit, empty head. We all know what needs to be done, the muslism need a wake up call that mohammed will feel and if they manage to get up we give them a wake up call allah will feel and if they still dont get it we need to add some additional parking. Enough, we need a leader with balls and we need to show the world our power and our determination to preserve it! Lets roll


19 posted on 09/15/2012 11:58:53 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (t)
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To: Travis McGee
obama has no power to shape anything in the ME. This is his Watergate and nothing that the communists and corksmokers at the slimes print... will change the fact that they are rioting because they hate obama in particular and America in general. Most of them do not even know about some you tube trailer for a non existent film... but they do know that they hate the gay weakling obama and are chanting for his death. I think that obama should retire to Cairo.

LLS

20 posted on 09/15/2012 12:02:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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If this is true, why now? Islam knows the response this will provoke. It’s clear a coordinated, calculated decision has been made by the muzzies. Why now three months before an election on whether to reelect a President widely seen as “sympathetic” to their interests. The muzzies usually play a long game. What’s the real angle here?


21 posted on 09/15/2012 12:04:45 PM PDT by circlecity
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“These questions come at an inopportune time domestically as Mr. Obama enters the last stages of a campaign season with a measurable lead in polls.”

And this has the NYT VERY concerned.


22 posted on 09/15/2012 12:05:50 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: circlecity

“What’s the real angle here?”
Don’t know,can’t think like a terrorist,guess it’s that Freedom thing.


23 posted on 09/15/2012 12:10:33 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Travis McGee

This is Obama’s scorched earth policy. No matter who wins this fall there will be a horrible mess left to America for generations.

Carter took it easy on us with Iran. Obama’s outdone Carter a hundred-fold.


24 posted on 09/15/2012 12:11:04 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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I really wish there could at least be some negative consequences for these so-called journalists' and reporters' 'dereliction' of duty.

As long as there are none (and they don't appear to care about loss of revenue) this will likely continue. Makes me wonder what'll happen when 0 loses the election (will they even report it? /s).

25 posted on 09/15/2012 12:13:47 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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Makes me wonder what'll happen when 0 loses the election (will they even report it? /s)

LOL - I am sure it will be very difficult for them, at the least, to do so.

26 posted on 09/15/2012 12:19:48 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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Translation: Obamugabe has no idea what to do, as Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod have yet to tell him. Plus, he is busy campaigning and golfing, hoping like HELL the media continue to prop him up and his cult continues to believe his bilk.

He'll vote "present" for the rest of the year.

27 posted on 09/15/2012 12:20:49 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Rapscallion

Great ideas, but we unfortunately need their oil. We have been prevented from enjoying the benefits of our own energy resources. Thanks to the left and the greenie weenies.


28 posted on 09/15/2012 12:20:57 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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I’m envisioning a video montage of reporters from all the major networks hemming and squirming as they report election day results. Should be good for entertainment.


29 posted on 09/15/2012 12:27:44 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: mdittmar
In recent days, critics have accused Mr. Obama of not paying enough attention to intelligence briefings. Mr. Obama receives the presidential daily briefing in writing every day but does not always sit down with intelligence briefers for an oral presentation as President George W. Bush did. Critics like former Vice President Dick Cheney said it indicated an inattention to a dangerous world.

“The hubris of a president who believes he does not need to meet regularly with them is astounding,” Marc Thiessen, a former speechwriter for Mr. Bush, wrote in The Washington Post.

No excuse for this. Obama is LAZY and figures to leave the detail of the Islamic revolutions and the machinations of moves in Afganistan to everyone else.

I hope this inattention to intelligence comes back to bite him in a BIIIIG way in coming days.

30 posted on 09/15/2012 12:33:13 PM PDT by what's up
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The unrest has suddenly become Mr. Obama’s most serious foreign policy crisis of the election season, and analysts say it is calling into question central tenets of his Middle East policy. Did he do enough throughout the Arab Spring to help the transition to democracy from autocracy? Has he drawn a hard enough line against Islamic extremists? Did his administration fail to address security concerns? Has his outreach to the Muslim world yielded any lasting benefits?

Everything working according to plan .
They have infiltrators in the top levels of our government letting them know exactly what will be done to them (nothing). We however have some really stupid ones like John McCain who went after Michelle Bachmann when she wanted Congress to investigate certain people in the "State Department" with ties to the muslim brotherhood.

We have lots of stupid people who think muslim brotherhood is a kinder and gentler form of islam .

They need to look at what they have done in Egypt with their kinder and gentler islam .

Islam is not a religion it is a form of government not compatible with our constitution posing as a religion.
NO what we have is a bunch of spiritual drunkards running the country in love with the kickbacks they get from the Saudis .

These people think that they can feed Israel to the muzzies and it will all be over nice and quick... that's NOT going to happen either ... keep your eyes on Israel , she is not going anywhere because the Bible says they will NOT be uprooted again .

The US however has no such promises from God .

America is about to humbled . The question is ....
Is she going to repent?
31 posted on 09/15/2012 12:41:34 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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The TV show Nightline was a direct result of the Hostage crisis.


32 posted on 09/15/2012 12:44:10 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (I can haz CW 2 now?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“He’ll vote “present” for the rest of the year.”

Ya has to be a-sittin’ in the chair, a-fore’s ya can vote “present”!


33 posted on 09/15/2012 1:09:23 PM PDT by Road Glide
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We should just send a fully armed NOFX to one of the embassies & let them have a field day.


34 posted on 09/15/2012 1:10:55 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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35 posted on 09/15/2012 1:29:56 PM PDT by sunny48
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To: Gadsden1st
An intelligence breakdown....
36 posted on 09/15/2012 1:31:17 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: mdittmar

“Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive”

The leader of the great Satan boasted over and over again, shown on TV around the world.

....

but lets blame an obscure video instead


37 posted on 09/15/2012 1:42:54 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Gadsden1st

Well, now the “news media” knows how to spin Obama’s woes. They all read the NYT.


38 posted on 09/15/2012 1:43:19 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Travis McGee

Bump for truth


39 posted on 09/15/2012 1:46:04 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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Iran looking at the current US leadership...

40 posted on 09/15/2012 1:57:43 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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41 posted on 09/15/2012 2:02:58 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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IOW, Obama ushers in his own surrender plan.


42 posted on 09/15/2012 2:05:56 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: mdittmar

Inaction IS action in Obamaworld.


43 posted on 09/15/2012 2:07:05 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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and President Obama’s ability to shape the forces of change in the Arab world.

Oboma is a man of desolation - a man of sin. His goal is to empower those who follow the moon God, Allah - the God of darkness, and the God of death.

I believe his goal is to finish the job his muslim brothers failed to do on 9/11. The destruction is almost complete. Another 4 years, and the job will be done.

44 posted on 09/15/2012 2:08:08 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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I've read articles indicating the Arab controlled ME is running out of oil while we are awash in it.

Perhaps there is a message from the real GOD here.

45 posted on 09/15/2012 2:09:31 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Investigation Finds Obama Financing Mosques Worldwide With U.S. Taxpayer Dollars
46 posted on 09/15/2012 2:17:15 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Zero out any kind of aid to muslim countries. No money, food or arms. Turn our energy segment on full bore and cut purchases of oil as well. They need the money that flows from the US to carry on their bad behavior. Cut it off.
47 posted on 09/15/2012 2:40:23 PM PDT by Myrddin
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U.S. Is Preparing for a Long Siege of Arab Unrest

Bunk. Go in and deal with the perps and their leaders and the bad guys will go back into their caves and the moderates will rejoice.

48 posted on 09/15/2012 2:53:11 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Rummyfan

This would be so easy to fix. Just stop giving them cell phones and weapons. But noooooo... We want to play nicey-nice with people whose goal is our total destruction. Also certain people want to make money from those sales.

It would not be hard to disable their communications infrastructure. I don’t believe they have the materials, the personnel, and the training to deal with that. Chaos would ensue. (Of course they’ve already got plenty of chaos.)


49 posted on 09/15/2012 2:59:48 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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Unrest sounds like a very nice way of saying sodimizing and killing non-islamics.


50 posted on 09/15/2012 3:06:39 PM PDT by Leep (I'm a Chic-Fil-- A-merican)
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