Posted on 09/15/2012 1:08:09 AM PDT by bd476
Just after midnight, authorities descended on the Cerritos home of the man believed to be the filmmaker behind the anti-Muslim movie that has sparked protests and rioting in the Arab world.
Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies escorted a man believed to be Nakoula Basseley Nakoula to an awaiting car. The man declined to answer questions on his way out and wore a hat and a towel over his face. He kept his hands in the pocket of a winter coat.
Sheriff's officials could not be reached by The Times, but department spokesman Steve Whitmore told NBC4 that deputies assisting the federal probation department took Nakoula to the sheriff's substation in Cerritos for interviewing.
Authorities waited until most media had left for the day.
Earlier Friday, sheriff’s deputies had to escort attorneys through a scrum of news cameras into Nakoula’s home. This time, authorities only had to avoid a lone photographer for The Times and a few other lingering reporters.
Nakoula has told the Associated Press he was a logistics manager on the "Innocence of Muslims" movie, not the director. He told a Coptic bishop Thursday that he had no role in it, the clergyman told The Times.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...
...taken in on what grounds?
“Taken in” based on what charges?
The diversion continues.
And so does the underMining of certain “free speech” if it offends a protected class.
Had the video instead been some sort of boundary pushing porn, snuff, mockery of judeo-christianity and this guy was being treated the way he is, the left would be outraged.
I read earlier that this guy is on probation, and one of the terms of his probation was that he could not use computers or the internet.
Not good. Not good for Free Speech at all.
Im not understanding any of this. This entire debacle is killing the Hussein regime. The appeasement and apologies have continued even after America learned what these animals did to the ambassador. Yet the Hussein puppets in the media and the Hussein regime itself keep up with “movie” false narrative. Why? It makes no sense. It is killing them politically, what are we missing?
Questioning, and possibly previous warrants from fraud investigation over the years.
What the heck?!!
Slippery slope could be....
This is outrageous. And not one word from anyone in Hollywood nor the ACLU.
I think they are somehow claiming that if he posted anything on the internet it is a parole violation.
They are also trying to appease the MB so it won't let this get further out of control until after the election when Obama should have "more flexibility."
This is BS.
Sounds like Obama and his fellow Muslims have found their scapegoat
The war on the first amendment has begun
Picking him up after midnight is a nice stalinistic touch, very theatrical.
For the past couple of days, local news stations have been airing stories about the man, that prior to having made the movie, if in fact, he is the one who directed or produced or created it - that he had at least a half dozen different identities and that in years prior, he was allegedly accused and/or convicted of check-kiting. Also this:
NBC News Los Angeles
Attorneys Meet With Believed "Innocence of Muslims" Filmmaker in Cerritos
"You are holding his children hostage. Please leave," says attorney
By Olsen Ebright and Jonathan Lloyd
| Friday, Sep 14, 2012 | Updated 9:27 PM PDT
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...A federal grand jury indictment in February 2009 charged Nakoula in an alleged bank fraud conspiracy. The indictment accused him and others of fraudulently obtaining the identities and Social Security numbers of bank customers at Wells Fargo and withdrawing $860 from bank branches in Cerritos, Artesia and Norwalk.
Los Angeles County District Attorney spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons confirmed that Nakoula served a year in jail after pleading guilty to possession of meth with the intent to manufacture in 1997...
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NBC Channel 4 Los Angeles: Attorneys Meet With Believed "Innocence of Muslims" Filmmaker in Cerritos
But it won’t work, and they have to know it. No one is buying the YouTube story, and the horror of the Benghazi attack only reinforces Americans justified belief that Islam is NOT the peaceful entity the Hussein regime claims it is. And the more they try and spin it, the worse it looks.
Unless it IS just what it looks like; complete and utter ineptitude from the regime and it’s media puppets trying to deal with the monster they created. Either way the spin and distraction attempts are drawing more attention to Islam.
BTW, in the midst of the UT and NDSU evacs, and stories from the middle east. We had a refinery wide “evacuation drill” in Wood River today.
The charge is that the President needs a scapegoat.
Can you imagine if the press was fair and reported that his boasting of “Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive” had caused this?
It would be the end of his re-election hopes. The media and Democrats will arrest and suppress anyone and their rights to keep that from happening.
Those protesters were burning Obama in effigy... those protesters were chanting “Obama... Obama... we are all Ossama”
Do you really think this is about a stupid internet video t them? Actually I think the deflection is making the jihadi’s even more angry. The violence could get worse because the MSM and the government refuse to even “get their message”.
bump
“Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive” to cheers... and a worldwide audience.
or a Youtube video nobody saw?
Which do you think is more likely to upset Jihadi’s??
They have to deflect this. If the media were to report it this way, his re-election is over.
At this point, that is difficult to discern because if the man is correctly identified as the check kiting, fraud convicted, parole violating ex-felon, then it would be expected for them to move in and arrest him on a probable parole violation.
There's also an otherwise unstated possibility that with his life, his neighbors' lives and all of his relatives' lives at great risk right now and well into the future, I doubt he nor his attorneys would be concerned about what is said to the press. It's likely that the attorneys who were with him at his residence all day today might have advised him and actually been hoping for this simply for his safety.
Whether he was taken in for parole violation or not, protective custody or at least squiring him out of his current residential area would seem to be of the highest priority. When the terrorists want to kill, they don't aim well and innocents are as likely to be put in their cross-hairs as anyone else.
Vicarious remedy?
Thanks for the ping.
“Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive” to cheers... and a worldwide audience.
Perfect point !!!
The statists in the WH, will charge him for parole violations...
The Arab Street will declare a victory for Allah.
They will rejoice, burn more flags and go home to candies.
Obama will announce some sort of proclamation...the media and ObamaZombies will declare the seas have subsided.
...and the Leftist/Jihadist Axis lives on.
I share your cynicism.
Hmmm.....he cannot use the internet as a condition of “parole”? Is he also not allowed to use envelopes and postage stamps? Strange times we live in.
The world is now safe, the possible filmmaker is in custody. I am sure all the terrorists will go back to their peaceful ways.
His State charges are 15 years old, thus he would not still be on "parole" for those.
The Fed Charges in which he served time, leaves a person under what is called "Supervised Release" for X number of years as ordered by the sentencing Judge.
This period comes with "conditions" of which not using the Internet could be one of them.
However, if a person is thought to have violated the conditions of their Supervised Release, it is up to U.S. Marshals to take said person into custody, NOT any local, or state LEO's.
Then, the person gets a hearing before a Judge whereby they are represented by an attorney and evidence is introduced and can be challenged. Thereafter, the Judge will make a ruling on whether the person is thought to have violated the conditions and he/she can order him to serve the time left on his his Supervised Release, add more time thereto and let them go or a combination thereof.
Regardless, this stinks to high Heaven and appears to be politically directed in order to take the heat off from Dear Reader.
Maybe. We'll know soon enough, hopefully.
You're welcome.
It's been an unnerving kind of day. It's unseasonably hot here. It was 104 at 5 pm. There were some transformers exploding in a couple of different areas. Around 3:30 pm a brush fire started on a hill yards up from a section of one of the busiest freeways in the world, in an area known as the Sepulveda Pass, and burning into Bel-Air, home to many of Los Angeles' wealthiest residents.
By 5 pm the freeway was backed up for miles, all the way past LAX with traffic speeds for all lanes at 5mph. Then there were reports of two more fires, less than 5 miles from the freeway brush fire but fortunately they were unrelated. The timing of the fires though had many on edge, including local newscasters.
>> It was 104 at 5 pm.
Ouch!
His work was the video and now he stands to make millions off of it.
pretty soon our gub mint goons will take you in to custody just for saying islam is a gutter religion.
Welllll,
come and get me ya goons cause islam is a gutter religion.
It's probably the late hour, the temperature here and the smoke from the brush fires today having made it's way into my modest home, all have compounded my drowsiness with an inability to decipher what it was you just wrote. So please forgive me, I have read your question a dozen times and still have no clue as to the question's meaning.
For the record however, like Ian Fleming, I am a fan of Sir Roger Moore in the role of 007, perhaps equal to my being a fan of Sean Connery in the same role.
Regarding the article I posted above, below I have linked posts which include my theories. Read them when you have a minute, or not. :)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2931385/posts?page=18#18
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2931385/posts?page=29#29
The article says he could only use the internet for work related activities. Without seeing the text of the original order, that's a pretty broad field. He can make an argument claiming anything he was doing on the internet was work related.
I am thinking this is more for protective custody. Threats have been made calling for the death of the film producer and all those connected with the film.
But...let me toss one other option into this mix...what if ...with all these various identities...he is a radical and part of the overall terrorist plan?
What has any of that got to do with who took the original movie and created a YouTube video by selectively editing and dubbing audio?
I may very well make my own version of a similar movie, I have always wanted to make my own film.
Now I will need....
A lot of bacon, access to a dog kennel, a pig farm, thousands of Korans, some thermite.
Islam has absolutely no clue what will be the reaction if millions of people fully armed and with a ton of resources decided to flood the internet with viral anti-islam messages.
And I won’t back down if Obamas goon squads ask me to stop, no way in hell.
Arrested? On what charge? Curious minds would like to know.
Since when has it become illegal to tell the truth about Islam?
Since when has it become a crime to speak out with political incorrectness?
Are we now living in a liberal fascist state?
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The truth about Islam is right here:
Islam, A Religion of Peace:
Sura (2:191-193) - “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”
Sura (5:33) - “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”
Sura (8:12) - “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
Bukhari (52:177) - Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared,” Kill any Jew who falls under your power.”
Ibn Ishaq: 327 - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
There's an excerpt of another article linked below plus a list of probable other reasons for the man being taken into custody.neveralib wrote: "Regardless, this stinks to high Heaven and appears to be politically directed in order to take the heat off from Dear Reader."
It's simply too early to begin arguing merits of an undefined as of yet, criminal case, or a potential false arrest charge. Such discussion would only be based upon news articles which were composed of snippets of information given to local news outlets thus far.
However, you can rest assured that the man is represented by more than one attorney, as mentioned in the articles "attorneys," that said attorneys were present in the man's home most of the day, and that his attorneys were also present when their client was taken into custody.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2931385/posts?page=18#18
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2931385/posts?page=29#29
What does that mean? Also who or what entity were you referring to when you wrote "Dear Reader" ?
Will they now also arrest Salman Rushdie?
Oh wait... He’s a darling of the left-wing elite...
If only he had thrown elephant feces at a painting of the Virgin Mary, the world would be a better place!
Just curious here, did you see the movie trailer or have you seen the entire movie?
I ask because I have only viewed the trailer which was somewhere around 15 minutes long.
It was the worst thing on video I have ever seen. The trailer was made up of thrown together completely unedited scenes.
The dialogue was poorly written. The scenes had no evidence of any kind of direction, and the actors were awful. The audio was a combination of bad miking, little to no post production work and amateurish over-dubs.
The sets were poorly lit, the camera work was obviously done by an amateur, the costuming was absurd as was the make-up on the so-called actors.
One of those "actors" had on a fake beard that flopped and wiggled loose and jutted out at moments so often that the fake beard itself deserves top billing screen credit plus points before any human involved in the "project" gets paid.
That's my opinion of course, and if your opinion is that the movie version of the trailer is going to earn the man "millions"... okay, then.
"Dear Reader" is Obama. The teleprompter reader.
This is a play on the title of Communist North Korea's "Dear Leader", which Koreans pronounce like 'Dear Reader' as well. :-)
However, Clinton’s attempt to distance the U.S. from “Innocence of Muslims”--and, by extension, its felonious producer--may be complicated by the revelation that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula became a government informant after his 2009 arrest for bank fraud, The Smoking Gun has learned.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/nakoula-cooperation-756920
The last dying gasp of The Bill Of Rights.
“what are we missing?”
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels
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