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Paul Ryan to 'values voters': If Obama wins, there's no going back
Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 14, 2012 | David Grant

Posted on 09/14/2012 12:56:43 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Speaking at the one of the largest annual gatherings for social conservatives Friday, Paul Ryan's message was a punch to the gut: If you allow President Obama to be reelected, there’s no going back.

“If we renew the contract, we will get the same deal – with only one difference. In a second term, he will never answer to you again,” Congressman Ryan said at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C., on Friday. “In so many ways, starting with Obamacare, reelecting this president would set in motion things that can never be called back. It would be a choice to give up so many other choices.”

Ryan’s speech – three parts critique of Mr. Obama’s record on issues of faith, foreign affairs, and finances and one part testimonial to presidential contender Mitt Romney’s character – was not just the usual stump speech. It was a pointed appeal to a key element of the GOP base that will have to turn out in force if the Romney-Ryan ticket is to prevail on Nov. 6.

Ryan, Mr. Romney’s vice presidential running mate and a Republican congressman from Wisconsin, spoke to a packed auditorium of some 2,000 attendees, plus a handful of hecklers. The summit is a conclave supported by leading Washington social conservative groups and organized by the Family Research Council.

....“On the seven occasions I’ve been sworn in as a member of Congress, I have never taken an oath to the government.....The oath that all of us take is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, under which government is limited and the people are sovereign.”

That moment clicked for Mary Anne Krupa of Chicago. “He articulated what people in government work for and about so well,” said Ms. Krupa,...“I understood why Romney picked him.”

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

” - - - the GOP base that will have to turn out in force if the Romney-Ryan ticket is to prevail on Nov. 6.”

To Ryan: If you want our support, then STOP saying that you are going to replace, or “save” parts of Obama”care!”

Either state that you and Romney will repeal and ABOLISH Obama”care” or get ready for us to boot you sorry RINOs out of the Republican Party by 2014.

Tick-Tock.


21 posted on 09/14/2012 2:08:51 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: fwdude

Actually, I disagree. This is going to be a typical election: decided by turnout of respective bases. willard is already winning the mushy middle by a large margin. husseins part of the electorate is never going to vote for willard. That leaves conservatives who are wondering why they should show up to vote for a liberal with an R after his name.

Paul Ryan is doing what he was brought on to do: bring the conservative base back onboard.


22 posted on 09/14/2012 2:11:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Vote for willard - he doesn't need to earn your vote, he's entitled to it.)
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To: xzins

Romney concerns all of us, but 0bama concerns us way more.

As much as I dislike Romney, I will vote for him and Paul Ryan (a future President).


23 posted on 09/14/2012 2:14:05 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Paul Ryan is doing what he was brought on to do: bring the conservative base back onboard.

Minor adjustment: Paul Ryan is TRYING TO DO doing what he was brought on to do: bring the conservative base back onboard.

Romney won't get my vote, but Obama will get my ire.

24 posted on 09/14/2012 2:18:31 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: PMAS

While I won’t vote for Romney, I’ll attack him only when he says anything stupid in the area of social issues.

Obama will get 24/7 bombardment.


25 posted on 09/14/2012 2:20:13 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

iow you are voting for Obama by inaction (good men doing nothing), or by casting in with a sacrificial party (ala an anode)


26 posted on 09/14/2012 2:21:07 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: xzins

if 0bama gets another term, there is a chance you won’t be able to vote again at all.

Sorry, I just have a problem with “not voting for Romney” crowd.


27 posted on 09/14/2012 2:25:50 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: longtermmemmory

I’ve rejected your argument long ago. This is about not being able to support a man who is in direct opposition to my cherished values.

It is possible to conduct a 2-front war in which one of the enemies gets first attention. Iraq/Afghanistan was such a war.

But, just because we destroyed Iraq first doesn’t mean that we gave Mullah Omar a general-ship in the American army. He was, after all, still an enemy.


28 posted on 09/14/2012 2:25:59 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thank you, Cincinatus’ Wife, for the post!

We have to get Zero out of office, even if it means voting for Romney!

http://www.booktv.org/Program/13788/Obamas+America+Unmaking+the+American+Dream.aspx

A vote for a third party “true conservative” candidate, or sitting at home on election day, is colluding with the enemy. Seriously.

Better a RINO in the White House than a non-American anti-American!

Ivan

(Retired USAF Master Sergeant and SOCOM aircrew)


29 posted on 09/14/2012 2:26:47 PM PDT by Unc1e_Ivan ("People sleep peaceably at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.")
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To: PMAS

I’ve already rejected that argument, so I’m at the point where I just don’t hear the objection any more.


30 posted on 09/14/2012 2:29:18 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

I’m sure it will all work out and our freedoms will remain in tact.

Although....

Obama submits to Brotherhood, asks for suppression of anti-Islam video
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2931175/posts


31 posted on 09/14/2012 2:34:26 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: PMAS

Obama can’t surprise me any more. Tell me he offed his own momma, and I’d say, “doesn’t surprise me”.


32 posted on 09/14/2012 2:37:11 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

” - - - It is possible to conduct a 2-front war - - - “

I agree, in war and in politics.

What we have here is: 1.) a War to rid our Nation of the counterculture, Communist Obama;
and 2.) a battle to rid the Republican Party of the Bipartisan Cave-In elected politicians that are Republicans In Name Only.

The War to convincingly defeat Obama is compromised whenever the RINO politicians start to Cave-In to Obama BEFORE the voters have a chance to vote Obama out.

The old McCain Days of passing out ‘hold-your-nose-when-you-vote-for-a-RINO’ noseclamps are over, but Romney refuses to believe it.

Romney is totally clueless as a politician and the polls reflect that fact.

If Romney wants to win by a large margin, then he must convince the voters that there is a large difference between him and Obama.

Obama is a Communist through and through. Obama wants to continue to take the US Federal Government on the Communist historically proven track of failure.

Romney must show the voters that he, Romney, is VERY different from Obama.

If Romney can’t do that then Obama will keep on the Communist wrong track, and we lose the War to the Obama Communists.

If Romney can do that, then we win the War against the Obama Communists. Then, after Romney’s election victory, we will continue the battle to hold the RINOs accountable for their actions, in-actions, and cave-ins.

I am of the opinion that Romney will lose the War to Obama UNLESS he shows a greater difference between himself and Obama. Thus, I choose to call out Romney whenever he shows his Socialist inclinations, such as his stated goal of “saving” parts of Obama”care.”

IOW, I have chosen to fight the battle with RINO Romney in the firm belief that unless he rejects his Obama-lite ideas, he will lose the War to Obama by a razor thin margin.

To Romney: To win big there must be a big difference. Tick-Tock.

To those FReepers who find fault with my opinion, let me ask you this question: “Why is there a statistical tie in the Polls between Obama and Romney at this late date if there is a big difference between the two candidates?”


33 posted on 09/14/2012 2:43:42 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf

excellent post, Graewoulf


34 posted on 09/14/2012 2:46:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Aw, - - - shucks - - - . Thanks.


35 posted on 09/14/2012 2:50:00 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf

Because half of the American population is actually American and half of the population is either deceived or insanely liberal.

Even if you’re going to assume that Romney and Obama are identical on domestic issues, the question arises on whether they’re identical on foreign issues. I think that Romney has shown over the last few days that he is head, shoulders, chest, hips, legs, feet, soles, and about ten more yards above Obama in regards to foreign policy. At least Romney doesn’t wear kneepads when dealing with the Middle East.

I would vote R/R on that alone.


36 posted on 09/14/2012 3:03:33 PM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: xzins

I think he’s being successful for the most part. I question if it’ll be enough. Saw an interesting poll out of MO a few weeks back. It showed that those who identified as d were going to vote for hussein by some margin line the mid 90th percentile. For those who identified with the r’s it was in the 80s for willard.


37 posted on 09/14/2012 3:12:06 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Vote for willard - he doesn't need to earn your vote, he's entitled to it.)
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To: Graewoulf

Ryan said in his speech that they intend to repeal ALL of Obamacare if I’m recalling correctly.


38 posted on 09/14/2012 3:12:48 PM PDT by Laura722
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To: RKBA Democrat
in the 80s for Romney

Yep, he's not made the sale to hardcases like the 2 of us.

He can't do it for me unless somehow I become convinced that he actually is pro-life despite everything he's ever done, and despite his recent approval of abortion for the health of the mother.

39 posted on 09/14/2012 3:18:20 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: fwdude

He was preaching to the grumblers, half-hearted back-handed types, and the ABRs in the conservative movement.
There aren’t many, but some of them are right here on FR.

Words of wisdom to contemplate. Re-elect Obama and you can basically kills social conservatism goodbye for all time - gay marriage and the outlawing of behavior that defies it (like eliminating adoption agencies that only serve man-woman married couples), taxpayer funded abortions, affirmative action for LGBTs, you name it, it will be ‘game over - you lost’ for the conservative movement.

It’s that serious. The Democrats have opened the Kimono, they are more extreme than ever. We lose now, we lose forever.


““If we renew the contract, we will get the same deal – with only one difference. In a second term, he will never answer to you again,” Congressman Ryan said at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C., on Friday. “In so many ways, starting with Obamacare, reelecting this president would set in motion things that can never be called back. It would be a choice to give up so many other choices.” “


40 posted on 09/14/2012 3:27:21 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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