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A win for same-sex marriage foes? [New York]
Capitol Confidential ^ | Sep 14 2012 | Jimmy Vielkind

Posted on 09/14/2012 8:07:33 AM PDT by scottjewell

Opponents of same-sex marriage took the neck-and-neck finishes of Republican primary challengers to Sens. Roy McDonald and Steve Saland as a sign of strength.

McDonald, R-Saratoga and Saland, R-Poughkeepsie, were among four Republicans who sided with a slew of Democrats to assure the same-sex marriage bill’s 33-29 passage in 2011, and conservatives have had them in their sights ever since. (Sen. Mark Grisanti, R-Buffalo, easily won a primary and Sen. Jim Alesi, R-Rochester, did not seek another term.)

While gay rights advocates stuffed McDonald and Saland’s coffers, grass roots groups mobilized against them, and may have succeeded in ousting one or both men.

“It’s what we said all along,” said the Rev. Jason McGuire, who lobbies for traditional marriage. “The Republicans took along and they said the dollars that would come from deep-pocketed gay activists would outspend the base. They got a lesson. This is deep-blue New York, and look what happened. It shows the poor state of the Republican Party, because it’s sold out to liberal interests at the sense of the base.”

LGBT advocates said the result was far from resounding, and hardly resonant.

“These close finishes mean there’s a lot of work to be done, but it also means that there are a lot of people who support marriage equality in the Republican Party,” said Libby Post, a Capital Region public relations consultant who co-founded the Empire State Pride Agenda, a gay rights group. “If the other side was going to win and have it be a banner event, they had to win by 60-40. This, if it is a victory, is not the kind of victory they were looking for.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; newyork; ny
I wish it had been a clearer victory.
1 posted on 09/14/2012 8:07:36 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

I wish that too- but the fact that libs had to spend money to elect republicans can not make them happy


2 posted on 09/14/2012 8:17:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (Reagan: “Washington is where good ideas go to die.”)
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To: scottjewell

Saland got a lot of money from the dems in exchange for his Judas vote. This state is so effed up.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 8:17:18 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: scottjewell

mcdonald is trailing? what about Saland?


4 posted on 09/14/2012 8:20:06 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: scottjewell; Mr. K

They sunk so much money and ground troops, we were out spent and out worked by their paid hacks. To have election this close in the 2 districts says a lot.

Voter turnout was so friking low its no wonder...


5 posted on 09/14/2012 8:24:26 AM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/articles/2012/09/13/news/doc50528dfe1f7ea410833413.txt#0_undefined,0_

Saland leading by 42 votes

all 119 election districts in Dutchess County reporting and all 10 districts in Putnam County reporting, Saland leads 4,969 to 4,927, according to Board of Election websites in the two counties. There also were 45 write in votes


6 posted on 09/14/2012 8:31:36 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: scottjewell
I wonder what happened to the "protection" they were supposed to have been afforded by Bloomberg. This only passed because he lobbied these guys in Albany.

Sadly, changing a few legislators won't do anything to change the law. The best they might do is force the issue onto the ballot, but given that's it's already the law, the laws of inertia will make it harder to overturn.

7 posted on 09/14/2012 8:32:17 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
what about Saland?

Dead heat.

Senate district 41

8 posted on 09/14/2012 8:33:14 AM PDT by Upstate NY Guy
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To: campaignPete R-CT

With 99 percent of the vote in, Marchione was ahead with 51 percent of the votes, 6,817 to 6,679, according to The Associated Press.

McDonald losing

http://saratogian.com/articles/2012/09/13/news/doc5052a90ed1f09654189797.txt


9 posted on 09/14/2012 8:34:05 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I know. Agreed :(


10 posted on 09/14/2012 8:39:33 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: The Mayor

No kidding- I saw NO ONE in line

We need to work on TURNOUT TURNOUT TURNOUT!!!

And if your neighbor has not voted, go do it for him!! (just kidding- that’s only for democraps)

how many total votes were cast? do you know?


11 posted on 09/14/2012 8:41:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (Reagan: “Washington is where good ideas go to die.”)
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To: The Mayor

No kidding- I saw NO ONE in line

We need to work on TURNOUT TURNOUT TURNOUT!!!

And if your neighbor has not voted, go do it for him!! (just kidding- that’s only for democraps)

how many total votes were cast? do you know?


12 posted on 09/14/2012 8:41:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (Reagan: “Washington is where good ideas go to die.”)
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To: The Mayor
Gee, what about "choice" that libs are so fond of.

Libs scream "choice" over abortion, when they really mean "one choice - death for the baby!"

They scream "choice" now for marriage, when they really demand traditionalists open up marriage between anyone (presumably any numbers of others) at the same time, any intra-family member marriages, any other species not far behind.

13 posted on 09/14/2012 8:51:35 AM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: Mr. K

Voter turn out once again was horrific, 10% or less. The party and their minions are the only people to vote in droves.


14 posted on 09/14/2012 9:19:53 AM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: zerosix

The sexual deviants are in control not us.


15 posted on 09/14/2012 9:20:53 AM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: scottjewell

Are both pro-homo Dems out? It wasn’t clear from my reading.


16 posted on 09/14/2012 3:40:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, I believe they are. I was reading National Review online article about the NY primaries, and it seems to be the case. NOM in any case has scored a victory with NY, and also RI and NH.


17 posted on 09/14/2012 4:14:18 PM PDT by scottjewell
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yes, the tide is turning.

18 posted on 09/14/2012 9:34:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: campaignPete R-CT; scottjewell; Upstate NY Guy; little jeremiah; wagglebee

A close personal friend was running Neil DiCarlo’s campaign against Steve Saland. They are 42 votes behind but there are close to a thousand absentee ballots left to be counted. They won’t know the final tally till late next week. Absentee ballots often break towards the imcumbent unfortunately.

They were literally outspent 30 to 1. DiCarlo spent about $25,000 on his campaign to Saland’s more than $700,000, most of which came from homosexual groups and Bloomberg. Saland had never been challenged in a primary in his 30 years in the Senate. These primaries are being closely watched by the GOPe throughout the country.

Social conservatism is a winning proposition for those willing to promote and defend it without bowing to the PC crowd in the GOPe.


19 posted on 09/14/2012 9:54:29 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM (Sin Makes You Stupid.)
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To: little jeremiah

if the GOP were not so stupid and appeasing then the GOP wuld use this and announce how the left wants to redefine marriage to anything goes.


20 posted on 09/15/2012 11:39:58 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I hope he comes out the winner. Horrible that so much leftist/homo money was funnel into his opponent. I don’t know if you read an article by Scott Lively that I recently posted from WND. He thinks the tide is turning, and so do I. It won’t be easy or painless, but I do think the tide is turning.


21 posted on 09/15/2012 11:52:23 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: manc

The problem with the GOP is that so many - especially those in powerful positions - are one or more of the following:

1. Cowards

2. Blackmailed

3. Liberals thesmslves

4. Motivated by personal greed and lust for power/money etc

5. Paid off

We need men and women with stout Constitutionalist principles and GOOD CHARACTER in the R party!


22 posted on 09/15/2012 11:54:38 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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