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1 posted on 09/13/2012 5:40:00 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 09/13/2012 5:41:06 AM PDT by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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Commies have been calling the right wing Nazis since Hitler turned against the Soviet Union.


3 posted on 09/13/2012 5:42:36 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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‘Nazi’ is the most horrid anathema that Liberals can fathom so it's their immediate and preferred insult to cast in the face of all their opponents ....as they support the Iranian nut job leader who denies that the holocaust even took place.

....Hmmmm...? Maybe their failure to comprehend history is showing.

5 posted on 09/13/2012 5:46:31 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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Who Started it? Daniel Schorr did. CBS executives were not amused when Schorr reported—incorrectly—that Barry Goldwater was said to "travel to Germany to join-up with the right-wing there", and visit "Hitler's one-time stomping ground" in Berchtesgaden, immediately after he became the Republican nominee for president[citation needed]. For obvious reasons, this did not fare well with Goldwater, who demanded an apology for the "CBS conspiracy" against his campaign for president.[4] In the 1980's - Danile Schorr spoke at my college. A member of the young repubs asked him to apologize for his unfair charachterization of Goldwater - the kid was booed by professors alike. I wasn't a member of any organization - I was allowed to ask a question but instead stated that maybe if he didn't characherize Goldwater in sucha way, the trend of political discourse in this country wouldn't have travelled to such a low road. My history prof's told me I was out of line and should not have ruffled the Great Mr. Schorr. What a Hack!
6 posted on 09/13/2012 5:49:13 AM PDT by hkusp40
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It should be the other way around. The acronym does stand for the national socialist workers party (a/k/a union drones) - or something like that.


8 posted on 09/13/2012 5:58:25 AM PDT by jersey117
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The actual NAZI supporters in the U.S. were Democrats.

i.e. ole Joe Kennedy


11 posted on 09/13/2012 6:05:51 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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National Socialists party that persecuted Christians and Jews.

Segments of the American media at the time was sympathetic to the Third Reich.


12 posted on 09/13/2012 6:09:28 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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Quarreling with Buckley over the impact of anti-Vietnam War dissidents, Gore called Buckley a “crypto-Nazi.” Incensed, Buckley fired back: “Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi, or I’ll sock you in your goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.”

Well, we know who had the brass ones in this exchange!

14 posted on 09/13/2012 6:17:28 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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That's why I deny that freaking circular political "map" used to illustrate the various political philosophies.

The socialist educators use it as a tool to make socialism look moderate and benign. They try to tell you that if you go far enough around the circle, to the right, you will encounter Nazism, and they are just as bad as the extreme communists on the left.

The straight line, left-to-right graph tells the story pretty well:
Total authoritarians and oppressive entities on the left.....American Conservatives on the right and genuine no-government anarchists on the extreme right.

15 posted on 09/13/2012 6:22:30 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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Harry Belafonte is not a “liberal activist” - unless by “liberal activist” you mean fervent supporter of Fidel Castro who does fundraising for him and sponsors events in Cuba to attract U.S. celebrities.


18 posted on 09/13/2012 6:44:45 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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The Democrats are like Charles Manson.

He wanted to spark a revolution of the underclass while he ran to a safe enclave. When the destruction was complete, he would emerge and, being the only one smart enough left, would take over and rule, along with his hand-picked czars -er, I mean group members.


19 posted on 09/13/2012 6:46:32 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Who said words have meaning?

We really need to stop using the German acronym for the National Socialist German Worker Party...aka ... NAZI...and call a National Socialist a National Socialist

21 posted on 09/13/2012 7:01:57 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater accepted an invitation to visit an American military installation located in Bavaria, Germany. On “CBS Evening News” hosted by Walter Cronkite, correspondent Daniel Schorr said: “It is now clear that Sen. Goldwater’s interview with Der Spiegel, with its hard line appealing to right-wing elements in Germany, was only the start of a move to link up with his opposite numbers in Germany.” The reaction shot — when the cameras returned to Cronkite — showed the “most trusted man in America” gravely shaking his head.

Trying to link Barry Goldwater, of all people, to Nazism merely demonstrates just how ignorant or deliberately deceptive these MSM leftists were at the time (and still are). There is no way the Nazis or neo-Nazis could have had any common ground with him.

Barry Goldwater had a Jewish father. According to Nazi doctrine, Goldwater was as much a target for extermination as any Jew in the world they might have contact with. If Goldwater had been unfortunate enough to have been in Europe in the late 1930s, chances are he would not have survived the Nazi Holocaust.

26 posted on 09/13/2012 10:04:39 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Comparing Republicans to Nazis — Who Started it?

The Nazis, they invaded Poland.

28 posted on 09/13/2012 10:07:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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[Article] Or maybe it began when Goldwater accepted the Republican nomination, and Democratic California Gov. Pat Brown said the “stench of fascism is in the air.”

Nelson Rockefeller, who ran second in the primaries and came to the Cow Palace convention with insufficient delegates to stop Goldwater, was offered the consolation prize of a minority statement on the Party platform, by the Platform Committee. They gave Rockefeller a primo time slot, 8 pm CDT iirc (this is all related by Theodore White in The Making of the President 1964), and Rockefeller proceeded to lambaste the majority delegates up and down, causing a wave of boos and catcalls to rise from the AuH2O army of delegates. Then Rocky really went after them and called them "fascists" and "Nazis", with all of America watching. Talk about negative advance -- Rockefeller pretty much handed the election to LBJ right there, by using so much of his prestige to smear Goldwater because Goldwater's Rove, F. Clifton White (we need him today!) would not play nice with Rockefeller and offer him the VP slot or a dozen cabinet seats or anything like that. Cliff White played with Rockefeller like the RiNO's and Me-Too'ers had always played with the Mugwumps, the Bull Moosers, and the Bob Taft "Main Street" Republicans -- so Rockefeller called them all Nazis on national TV.

29 posted on 09/13/2012 10:45:14 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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Or maybe the Republicans-as-fascists narrative really jump-started during the 1968 presidential campaign. For commentary at the political conventions that year, ABC hired left-wing pundit Gore Vidal and matched him with conservative pundit William F. Buckley. If the network was looking for fireworks, they were not disappointed. Quarreling with Buckley over the impact of anti-Vietnam War dissidents, Gore called Buckley a “crypto-Nazi.” Incensed, Buckley fired back: “Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi, or I’ll sock you in your goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.”

Calling Buckley a Nazi, that’s one thing. But calling Vidal a queer, now that’s a personal attack./sarc

I almost wished he did sock him. Buckley was famously even-tempered and able to beat people with facts and reasoning, but it looks like Vidal crossed a line.

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Entertainer and liberal activist Harry Belafonte, when asked whether the number and prominence of blacks in the Bush administration suggested a lack of racism, said, “Hitler had a lot of Jews high up in the hierarchy of the Third Reich.”

Belafonte was an out and out communist, card-carrying member, I believe. And completely ignorant of history.


35 posted on 09/13/2012 11:15:47 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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Or maybe the Republicans-as-fascists narrative really jump-started during the 1968 presidential campaign. For commentary at the political conventions that year, ABC hired left-wing pundit Gore Vidal and matched him with conservative pundit William F. Buckley. If the network was looking for fireworks, they were not disappointed. Quarreling with Buckley over the impact of anti-Vietnam War dissidents, Gore called Buckley a “crypto-Nazi.” Incensed, Buckley fired back: “Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi, or I’ll sock you in your goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.”

Calling Buckley a Nazi, that’s one thing. But calling Vidal a queer, now that’s a personal attack./sarc

I almost wished he did sock him. Buckley was famously even-tempered and able to beat people with facts and reasoning, but it looks like Vidal crossed a line.

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Entertainer and liberal activist Harry Belafonte, when asked whether the number and prominence of blacks in the Bush administration suggested a lack of racism, said, “Hitler had a lot of Jews high up in the hierarchy of the Third Reich.”

Belafonte was an out and out communist, card-carrying member, I believe. And completely ignorant of history.


36 posted on 09/13/2012 11:17:46 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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It’s actually worse than what Elder says.

Nazism is far left ideological identity politics. People like Harpootlian, Al Gore, Cronkite, and their ilk should do some homework and find out what the NSDAP really stood for.


40 posted on 09/13/2012 1:36:42 PM PDT by sauropod (Only two of God's creatures can employ the term "we": newspaper editors and men with tapeworms-Hayes)
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Goes back at least as far as the 1950s.

Some German emigre intellectuals saw Eisenhower as Hindenburg or McCarthy as Hitler, which was silly, since many of those intellectuals had real affinities with totalitarian thinking themselves.

American liberals didn't go that far until the 60s and 70s. By the Nixon era, it was quite common, with swastikas forming the "x" in his name on posters.

43 posted on 09/13/2012 2:34:52 PM PDT by x
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Generally, blacks hate Jews. But both vote en bloc for left wing nut job Dems.

Go figure.

If American Jews anc Catholics help put O back in this year, then they better not come ask for my help when the jihad hits them.


49 posted on 09/13/2012 3:32:40 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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