Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

AP Exclusive: Memos Show US Hushed up Soviet Crime
Associated Press ^ | September 10, 2012 | RANDY HERSCHAFT and VANESSA GERA

Posted on 09/10/2012 10:25:03 AM PDT by dfwgator

The American POWs sent secret coded messages to Washington with news of a Soviet atrocity: In 1943 they saw rows of corpses in an advanced state of decay in the Katyn forest, on the western edge of Russia, proof that the killers could not have been the Nazis who had only recently occupied the area.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar; fdr; katyn; katynforest; massacre; poland; soviet; wwii
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-144 next last
To: PapaBear3625
What FDR was worried about was, if the full scope of Soviet atrocities were made known, the American public might decide that maybe we should support the Germans AGAINST the Russians.

Again, I would tend to agree with not revealing it publicly during the war...but certainly I would have threatened to reveal it after the war, unless the Soviets made concessions regarding Eastern Europe.

21 posted on 09/10/2012 10:57:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
How so? Three million Jews in Poland before the war, where did they all go?

How many went into the USSR, never to be seen again?

22 posted on 09/10/2012 10:58:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625

I would think pretty much the Auschwitz Kommandant’s testimony at Nuremberg would pretty much settle that question. There is plenty of evidence of mass graves at Treblinka which would corroborate the Nazi atrocities.


23 posted on 09/10/2012 11:01:04 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Precisely.

It was blood-soaked, murderous, Communist shit like this that pissed General Patton off so frequently.

He created an uproar with the US government hierarchy and their Soviet buddies, and then General Patton suddenly "died in a car accident."

24 posted on 09/10/2012 11:01:48 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

FDR? The guy with all the Soviet spies working under him? The guy who had Alger Hiss by his side at Yalta?

FDR, the so-called great American president/dictator, who knew nothing of all the Soviet activities conducted stateside on his watch?


25 posted on 09/10/2012 11:01:48 AM PDT by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625
Exactly.

The Communists HATED educated people from Poland, Romania and so forth.

They were deemed a threat and considered dangerous, and the fact that they were murdered by the advancing Russians comes as no surprise to me.

26 posted on 09/10/2012 11:03:55 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
See the Madden Committee for some of the testimony of John H. Van Vliet, Jr. from 4Feb1945 given in Washington, DC.

His written reports (there were two) have vanished.

27 posted on 09/10/2012 11:04:13 AM PDT by jamaksin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

Their aim was to eliminate a military and intellectual elite that would have put up stiff resistance to Soviet control. The men were among Poland's most accomplished — officers and reserve officers who in their civilian lives worked as doctors, lawyers, teachers, or as other professionals. Their loss has proven an enduring wound to the Polish nation.

Sounds very much like what what the Khmer Rouge were to do later in Cambodia, such policy being part and parcel of the inhumanity that is called Communism.

Anyone ever hear of the world, led by the US, demanding justice for these victims and other victims of Soviet atrocities, as was done with the Nazis? Of course not.

28 posted on 09/10/2012 11:07:24 AM PDT by Robwin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Prole

Now to be somewhat fair, it also wasn’t very good to be a Red Army Officer under Stalin.

I recently saw a documentary about the Siege of Leningrad, and we learned in the end, that basically Stalin had all of the “heroes of Leningrad” shot after the war.


29 posted on 09/10/2012 11:07:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: skinkinthegrass

FDR had “flexibility”.


30 posted on 09/10/2012 11:12:06 AM PDT by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Bratch

How sad it must be to have to be you.


31 posted on 09/10/2012 11:12:17 AM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625
I forgot to add, “... mass murder of 22 THOUSAND members of the college-educated class”.

And what will happen here to our libs at the university after their usefulness is no longer needed? What happened to the liberals in China?
32 posted on 09/10/2012 11:14:20 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_Massacre


33 posted on 09/10/2012 11:14:27 AM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MeganC

So what should we do?

Atrocities committed by a government that no longer exists, covered up by US officials who are long dead.

What’s our next course of action?

There’s enough trouble going around without trying do worry about things that happened 4 wars ago.

IMO.


34 posted on 09/10/2012 11:20:51 AM PDT by Bratch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: PeterPrinciple
And what will happen here to our libs at the university after their usefulness is no longer needed? What happened to the liberals in China?

What did Pol Pot do to the educated people of Cambodia?

35 posted on 09/10/2012 11:28:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Bratch

Your comment was amazingly dismissive of the human suffering of the Poles. Just dismissing what took place with the equivalent of saying, “Sh*t happens”, is appalling.

And as to what we should do? We should acknowledge the truth and remember the dead and work to make sure no such thing happens again.


36 posted on 09/10/2012 11:28:47 AM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: proxy_user
Can you imagine how many GIs would have been killed if we had to defeat German armies like that?

Well, yes and no. Had we adopted the Russian "tactic" of staging a brutal, all-out slugfest - yes. But our Generals would have employed entirely different hit-and-run tactics that would have tend to minimize American casualties...and Germans would have been far more willing to surrender to Americans than to fight to the death, knowing what awaited them in Soviet captivity.

37 posted on 09/10/2012 11:31:37 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Bratch
"In periods of all-out war, atrocities happen. We now return you to your regular programming."

Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance. 20,000 Polish officers and other members of the Polish intelligentsia were arrested AFTER Stalin's Red Army divided Poland with Hitler.

They were not the victim of an "atrocity during all-out war" as you say. They were arrested, taken in truckloads to a forest and murdered.

Twenty thousand or more of them.

Now, go back to your regular programming, which, judging by your stupid remark, is probably "The Price Is Right" or "Family Feud."

38 posted on 09/10/2012 11:33:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

And everyone that followed him. Even Ronaldus Magnus.

Shame on all of them. May God have mercy on their souls.


39 posted on 09/10/2012 11:35:28 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625; Bratch

Exactly. I’m surprised to see such a stupid remark as the one Bratch made on FR.


40 posted on 09/10/2012 11:35:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-144 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson