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"Horses**t" (Romney adviser on Dem demoralizing campaign)
National Review Online ^ | 09/10/12 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 09/10/2012 6:54:52 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

I asked a top Romney adviser what he makes of reports that the Romney campaign knows it’s losing and that Ohio is slipping out of reach (PPP has a new poll with Obama at 50 in the state):

“It’s horses**t. Nobody in Boston thinks we’re going to lose. We’re in a tight race. We had a 4-5 point bounce after our convention and it evaporated when they had theirs. Now they have a 4-5 bounce. It’s going evaporate in September. We feel good about the map. We’re up with advertising in Wisconsin and I think North Carolina is going to come off the board. On Ohio, they’ve been spinning for months now that it’s out of reach.

There was a Columbus Post-Dispatch poll last week that had it 45-45. That’s a more accurate picture of the state of the play there than any of the spin. PPP has these polls that just put chum in the water for the media. Sometimes I think there’s a conscious effort between the media and Chicago to get Republicans depressed. And I hope our friends realize that all these media analysts out there are Democrats WHO WANT US TO LOSE. And the more Washington DC controls our economy, the more important inside-the-beltway publications are and the more money they make. The 202 area code is dominated by people who will make more money if Obama is reelected, so it’s not just an ideological thumb they’re putting on the scale for him, it’s a business interest.

I actually think the other side is in a panic. You look at New Mexico closing up. And they’re not above 50 in any of their target states. Look, we’re raising money, they’re raising money, and it’s tight. This is a dogfight. But the numbers actually point to a romney win barring something unforeseen.”


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To: mrs9x

I don’t disagree.


21 posted on 09/10/2012 7:11:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Lazamataz

There should be a troll cleaning after the election.

All of these people that say Romney is rolling over...has anyone watched this guy try to get the nomination for R candidate the last two times? He’s suddenly going to just let the Presidency slide away with a “lackluster” campaign? Paul Ryan is going to leave a cushy job to run with a guy destined to lose?

GIVE ME A BREAK.

The one thing I will know when R/R takes office is that they have a steady hand when dealing with “crisis.” Conservative sites are purposely being whipped up into eyeores...Romney isn’t the one undercutting his campaign but weak kneed supporters are!

As I said on a different thread, we’ve heard all of these same worries in WI for three years now with polling and the reactions to it...and we went out and voted in margins none of the pollsters were forecasting.


22 posted on 09/10/2012 7:13:41 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: mrs9x

I agree. I wish they would start using Web ads to expose the myriad of facts about Obama’s performance. The TV ads are expensive and so time is so limited. The web ads can hit statistics, charts, graphs, and allow viewers to click for more info. Hopefully this is in the works for September. Obama needs to be put on the defensive, in a big way. That’s when he screws up. Right now, he’s on the offensive through a compliant media narrative.


23 posted on 09/10/2012 7:14:16 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: chad_in_georgia
Rasmussen has Obama approval at 52??

Amazing,isn't it? We've been told over and over to avoid social issues,but after a democrat convention spotlighting gay "marriage",abortion,and birth control,we find our side is LOSING!!!!!!!

The lesson?: Trying to silence a third of your conservative base in order to try and appease people that will NEVER vote for you anyway is NOT a winning strategy!

24 posted on 09/10/2012 7:15:18 AM PDT by massmike (The choice is clear in November: Romney or Caligula!)
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To: MNlurker
There should be a troll cleaning after before the election

Corrected your sentence for grammar and punctuation.

25 posted on 09/10/2012 7:16:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: agere_contra

Oh give me a break. I have been nothing but an optimist to this point but when the guy can be at 52% after Friday’s jobs report, we’ve got big problems. I don’t wanna hear about “weekend polling”, we’re down and what the hell are we going to use to catch up?

Apparently lousy economic numbers don’t hurt him so what are we going to do? The guy should be in the 30’s and he’s over 50!


26 posted on 09/10/2012 7:17:17 AM PDT by chad_in_georgia
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To: TonyInOhio

The Donald blasted Mitt this morning with the Friends saying that he needs to step it up NOW on the attacks and to quit being afraid of being called a racist. Hopefully Team Romney is listening. :)


27 posted on 09/10/2012 7:17:42 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: mrs9x

I agree that Romney has got to go for the jugular. He certainly had no trouble doing that during the campaign, when he ran negative, personal attack ads on his opponents and destroyed them even without even having any program of his own to offer.

He obviously can’t get that personal about Obama but he could certainly attack him heavily on his record.

One of the biggest problems with this is that any criticism of Obama is immediately labeled as racist by the Dems. As I posted earlier, I read that there were buses at the DNC that had big banners saying “Don’t Disrespect My President.” So the Dems are trying to insulate Obama by implying that any criticism of him is “dissin’ a brother.” Putting aside the fact that Obama has absolutely nothing except what appears to be a suntan in common with his supposed “brothers,” the Dems have been very effective in intimidating opponents with this.

Romney may not want to win for ideological reasons, actually, but he definitely wants to be President of the US, and he wants it so bad that he’s spent part of his personal fortune and the last several years doing nothing else but lining up his campaign. So if he really wants it, he’d better get moving ASAP.


28 posted on 09/10/2012 7:18:04 AM PDT by livius
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To: Lazamataz

Would be better if every polling thread has a list posted of the eyeores here to purposely screw with our more easily manipulated.


29 posted on 09/10/2012 7:18:26 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: All

It always amazes me how a conservative website that knows the reality of liberal media bias, constantly falls for the BS.

...and this Election is about Jobs and the Economy.

We will win.


30 posted on 09/10/2012 7:18:39 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: TonyInOhio
I hope you guys are right! I hope by Friday the narrative is back on the Economy, and the chronically high jobless rate.
31 posted on 09/10/2012 7:18:57 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: chad_in_georgia

The lousy economic numbers are actually helping Obama, because the Democrats have convinced people that the Republicans are going to take away Unemployment benefits and other relief.

Heads they win, tails we lose.


32 posted on 09/10/2012 7:19:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: MNlurker

First, most of these polls are biased, even though it may not be intentional. Secondly, they cannot predict the turnout models.

And say what you will about Romney, he is a smart man. There are still 60 days to go, and things are just getting started. Let this play out.

In the end, I predict Obama loses by 4-5 points nationally.


33 posted on 09/10/2012 7:20:33 AM PDT by gswilder
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To: TonyInOhio

Yeah. Just let the 0bots think it’s in the bag,that he’s a shoo-in. They’ll lay back and think,yeah,ok,we got this...they’re scared to death and,much like a wounded animal who knows this is the end,they’re flailing about,trying to sink tooth or claw into whatever they can to survive.Take heart. We will prevail. We knew it would get ugly,and very dirty. Keep pushing,keep working...we will win!!


34 posted on 09/10/2012 7:21:30 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (If you want to kick a tiger in the ass, you better have a plan for dealing with his teeth.)
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To: MNlurker

What I’m seeing is doesn’t seem to be true trolling, but some misguided, pessimistic, and easily led people. RIghtwardHo, tsowellfan: Two examples.


35 posted on 09/10/2012 7:22:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: mrs9x

The problem is that Romney has to have the guts to expose Obama for who he is. This needs to get ideological, and do so in a hurry

I agree 100% and have been saying this for a year. Remind people what BO’s “mentor” said about 911. Remind people of the commies that BO hires to work for him—get on it NOW. The constant drumbeat about medicare isn’t getting it done. Show BO’s commie vision for America because that’s what it is and do so with passion. Scare the heck out of people about BO. If they stay McCain-we lose.


36 posted on 09/10/2012 7:24:35 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: mrs9x

I just wrote to Rove to tell him the same thing.
He reads emails.

The campaign is pandering to an imaginary group of “independents” which if they exist at all, is probably 1% of the voting public. And even if it’s more, let em go.

They aren’t Republicans...they are DIDs. Dems in disguise.
If you ask an “independent” about their voting history, they’ll probably lie about the fact that they vote for D’s.


37 posted on 09/10/2012 7:25:14 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (The music from Jaws is playing in my head....)
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To: rbmillerjr

Agree totally. It’s the economy stupid and it’s a mess. Many, many people who never hear from a pollster are in a very bad way and have gotten to that point during this man’s term. He’s toast.


38 posted on 09/10/2012 7:25:21 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: TonyInOhio
PPP is a DAily Kos/SEIU poll:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sa=X&ei=kvdNUIWbL_Ox0AHNrICAAg&ved=0CBsQvwUoAQ&q=ppp+daily+kos&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=eed90faf6d3fee18&biw=959&bih=603

39 posted on 09/10/2012 7:25:38 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama asks instead of applause, people wave their legs in the air in support of wimmyn.)
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To: Lazamataz
RIghtwardHo, I'm a little more suspicious about you.

You are correct him. See my profile. I pegged him a long time ago. And RaisingCain.
40 posted on 09/10/2012 7:27:19 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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