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Paul Ryan Says Feds Shouldn’t Interfere With Legalized Medical Pot
KCBS ^ | September 7, 2012

Posted on 09/07/2012 6:59:04 PM PDT by Ken H

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (CBS/AP) – Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan tells a Colorado television station that the federal government shouldn’t interfere with states that have legalized medical marijuana.

Ryan told KRDO-TV in Colorado Springs that he personally doesn’t approve of medical marijuana laws. But he said that states should have the right to choose whether to legalize the drug for medical purposes.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commerceclause; medicalmarijuana; statesrights; tenthamendment
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1 posted on 09/07/2012 6:59:08 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

we just to find a manufactured airborne pathogen to eradicate it


2 posted on 09/07/2012 7:01:10 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

After you find it, are you going to spray it in peoples houses too? And you found government’s authority to do this in which section of the constitution?


3 posted on 09/07/2012 7:04:33 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Ken H
I agree but it needs to be sold in a pharmacy rather than some storefront that looks like a Haight-Ashbury head shop.
4 posted on 09/07/2012 7:05:07 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Ken H

Good look for Paul Ryan. Thanks for the post.


5 posted on 09/07/2012 7:06:37 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Ken H

I have never taken any illegal drugs so this isn’t my issue, but I would favor a tenth amendment resolution to this issue. Push it to the states to criminalize or not. Save the federal laws for importing into the US only.


6 posted on 09/07/2012 7:09:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Ken H

0bama promised not to interfere with MM but then he broke his promise and his DoJ has been cracking down hard. No one can or should trust that lying jug-eared Marxist.


7 posted on 09/07/2012 7:09:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Ken H

Oh look! Someone who read the constitution!


8 posted on 09/07/2012 7:10:45 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: Ken H

And ever since Obama was elected, he’s sent Eric Holder and the DOJ after marijuana clinics in every state that allows it by law.

Smart move by Ryan, and no I don’t smoke the ganja weed, and by the way... Have you noticed that Eric Holder has seemed to fall off the face of the earth this campaign season? Aside from going after Gallup, that is.


9 posted on 09/07/2012 7:10:53 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: Ken H; All

Thalidomide, sold under the name “Thalomid” in the United States, for the treatment of nausea and loss of appetite, costs about $8,089.00 a month.

Thalidomide is so dangerous that, if you drop a pill on the floor and a pregnant woman so much as picks up the pill and places it on the counter for you, that brief contact will allow enough Thalidomide to be absorbed through her skin to cause serious birth defects in her unborn child.

One of the great success stories of the United States Food and Drug Administration is that, about 50 years ago, the United States would not approve Thalidomide for the treatment of morning sickness in pregnant women. Great Britain, unfortunately, did grant such approval and subsequently suffered the tragic “flipper baby” epidemic of children born with grotesque deformities.

Thalidomide IS approved in the United States for nausea and loss of appetite in cancer and chemo patients, but it is expensive, dangerous and an administrative nightmare to provide the drug. Patients must submit to a recorded voice interview every time they fill a prescription, and they must agree to warn everyone in the household of the dangers associated with Thalidomide, and must agree to proper disposal of the drug in the event that they discontinue usage, and must appoint someone to dispose of the drug in the event of the patient’s death, as well as post signs and warnings where the drug is stored.

Taxpayers and private insurance companies are now paying $8,089.00 per month for a highly toxic, dangerous drug that simply gives Chemo patients the “munchies” and helps them keep their food down, after they eat.

Don’t we have anything out there that might be cheaper, and less dangerous?

Wouldn’t the anxiety and pain-reducing features, in other substances, also be of some benefit, to terminal cancer patients?

I applaud the Wichita Pachyderm Club for inviting Jon Hauxwell, MD to speak on the topic of “Medicinal Cannabis” recently.

I am disappointed that so many elected officials declined to attend, and I am very disappointed with those who do not have the courage to engage in serious debate on this matter.

For the record, I have not come in contact with Marijuana since my college days, years ago. I hold over a dozen different government licenses and certifications and I can’t risk a criminal record of any kind.

This is a matter of fiscal common sense, practical medical application, public safety and simple humanity.

It is well past time to consider medical marijuana. One of my clients was a law enforcement officer, who had cancer. He convinced me that change was needed, on the price and safety issues of Thalidomide, alone.

Is Marijuana more dangerous than Thalidomide? Of course not!

The price of Thalidomide tells us that! Nearly the entire price is due to LIABILITY concerns. The actual drug is not that expensive to make. Must taxpayers and insurance companies spend $8,089.00 a month for every cancer patient, just to give them back their appetite and keep them from vomiting? Marijuana smoke can’t be regurgitated; it is an obvious answer to a very real problem!

Why do I care if my position makes some hippie happy?

On this issue, the “hippies” are RIGHT!


10 posted on 09/07/2012 7:12:11 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Ken H
This is a smart move on Ryan's part which the GOP should adopt. Most Americans would agree.

It's a damn weed, that gives users a "fuzz." You can't even get "wasted" on it.

11 posted on 09/07/2012 7:13:17 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: TigersEye
I am guessing that Obama and Holder have friends in the cartels.

They are helping their thug friends by stomping on the competition.

12 posted on 09/07/2012 7:13:28 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GeronL
we just to find a manufactured airborne pathogen to eradicate it

Heh! Face it GL, this is a HUGE blow against marijuana prohibition.

13 posted on 09/07/2012 7:13:58 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Next on the libertarian list is kiddie porn


14 posted on 09/07/2012 7:16:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Ken H

I’m not a doper but this works on two fronts.

It restores States’ Rights and pulls in some of Paul’s supporters.


15 posted on 09/07/2012 7:18:49 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Ken H

He reflects what I’ve thought for a while now...the states should be left alone on this (and many other issues).


16 posted on 09/07/2012 7:19:35 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Ken H

Ryan just won us CO and CA In one fell swoop.


17 posted on 09/07/2012 7:21:46 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Kansas58

come on you say a dry pill of thalidomide can release enough medication through the skin to be teratogenic? why isn’t it delivered as an enteric coated pill, so that such contamination by casual contact would be impossible?


18 posted on 09/07/2012 7:21:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Ken H

Paul Ryan understands federalism.
I hope he’s Romney’s right hand.


19 posted on 09/07/2012 7:23:24 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: GeronL

That’s stupid: Ryan is a devout Catholic.

The debate is over substances with a debated valid medical use, vs. pure mind trash that abuses and degrades the kids used to make it with.


20 posted on 09/07/2012 7:24:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Kansas58

“They are helping their thug friends by stomping on the competition. “

And giving select doper groups free semiauto guns, and other gear.


21 posted on 09/07/2012 7:24:51 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Ken H

> Paul Ryan Says Feds Shouldn’t Interfere With Legalized Medical Pot

What’s Ryan trying to do with such talk, win an election?


22 posted on 09/07/2012 7:25:23 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Ken H

This should help a lot of Ron Paul people, twenty-somethings and libertarians take a second look and perhaps vote for Romney/Ryan.


23 posted on 09/07/2012 7:25:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: GeronL

sure. legal drugs pimped out by drug companies and doctors are ten times worse than pot.


24 posted on 09/07/2012 7:25:51 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: The KG9 Kid

“And ever since Obama was elected, he’s sent Eric Holder and the DOJ after marijuana clinics in every state that allows it by law.”

The only good thing the commie bastard ever did in his life!!!!!!


25 posted on 09/07/2012 7:26:33 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: GeronL

“The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.

John Stuart Mill
On Liberty

Kiddie porn is not manufactured with consenting adults. I find you guilty of using false straw man arguments to justify your irrationality.


26 posted on 09/07/2012 7:26:51 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Well, the purpose of the pill is to dissolve in the stomach, and initiate the “munchies” and control nausea.

Any coating would delay or diminish the effect, perhaps even making the drug miss its target in the digestive system, entirely.

Look it up.

I know what I am talking about, this Thalidomide is dangerous stuff to unborn babies.

27 posted on 09/07/2012 7:27:18 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GeronL
Next on the libertarian list is kiddie porn

Come on now.

I'm not a libertarian, really, but you might as well have wrote "I have an irresistible urge to appear extremely foolish tonight."

28 posted on 09/07/2012 7:29:56 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Ken H

“....he personally doesn’t approve of medical marijuana laws. But he said that states should have the right to choose whether to legalize the drug for medical purposes.”

THAT is my position, exactly. Good for Ryan.


29 posted on 09/07/2012 7:31:13 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: TigersEye
0bama promised not to interfere with MM but then he broke his promise

Ryan's going after his OWS votes.

30 posted on 09/07/2012 7:31:36 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Kansas58

Thalidomide was a well known scandal, but the idea that skin contact with a pill is teratogenic is new to me. That suggests, chillingly, that a terrorist could use a similar mechanism to poison a crowd that hadn’t even been exposed to enough stuff to know it had been poisoned.

And why would male users of the medicine have to be warned on the record never to use it if pregnancy was possible... that is stupid.

It can’t cost that much to produce the medicine. It has to be a liability issue where the insurance is a thousand times more costlier than the chemical.


31 posted on 09/07/2012 7:33:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: sf4dubya

I agree with Ryan on the principle that no citizen should be caught between conflicting state and federal laws. I am sure there are other instances where federal and state laws conflict, but you have to start somewhere.


32 posted on 09/07/2012 7:35:33 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
signs must be posted in the home of anyone taking Thalidomide.

Each order requires a recorded telephone conversation and clearance from the drug company before the pharmacy is allowed to release the order.

Yes, it is very dangerous.

My point, of course, is that pot is not as dangerous.

33 posted on 09/07/2012 7:38:01 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Ken H
I have to agree with Ryan.

I've seen, up close, the honest benefits of what medical marijuana provided to a long time friend who was dying of terminal cancer.

I'll say no more other than Ryan's right. Let the States decide for themselves. The Federal Government is too far "out of control" to understand a personal situation like death.

In fact, they're so far "out of control" America is now truly in jeopardy.

34 posted on 09/07/2012 7:38:38 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Kansas58

All the stupid warnings are because of the lawyers. What happens then if the patient dies. Superfund site? Ridiculous.


35 posted on 09/07/2012 7:42:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Kansas58

Why do you trust the Federal Government more than the States to see things your way?


36 posted on 09/07/2012 7:43:10 PM PDT by DManA
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Kansas58
come on you say a dry pill of thalidomide can release enough medication through the skin to be teratogenic? why isn’t it delivered as an enteric coated pill, so that such contamination by casual contact would be impossible?

I found the NIH info here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001053/

It's in in a capsule. The threat of contamination is really the risk of handling a broken or leaking capsule.

There are many more warnings and restrictions. You have to see a doctor every month to refill the prescription.

If you are a woman that can become pregnant, you have to use two forms of birth control 4 weeks before, during, and 4 weeks after treatment (or abstain entirely from sex).

While you are taking it, all of your bodily fluids are contaminated -- which means that everyone around you must take special precautions.

37 posted on 09/07/2012 7:43:20 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: VideoDoctor

They’ll let you suicide yourself without a batted eye, but heaven help you if you have some weed to make your death or treatment easier.


38 posted on 09/07/2012 7:43:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: GeronL

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!


39 posted on 09/07/2012 7:44:23 PM PDT by turn_to
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To: justlurking

Ah, a liquidgel.

If you were a thalidomide patient and you spit on a pregnant woman — could you be convicted of the crime of mayhem?


40 posted on 09/07/2012 7:45:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: VideoDoctor

For the purposes of this discussion I don’t even care about the merits of the issue. States decide what is a crime within their jurisdiction period.


41 posted on 09/07/2012 7:45:39 PM PDT by DManA
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And why would male users of the medicine have to be warned on the record never to use it if pregnancy was possible... that is stupid.

It's not the man that needs to worry about it, it's his partner. The drug is secreted in seminal fluid.

42 posted on 09/07/2012 7:46:35 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: DManA

Huh?
Please read what I have posted again and get back to me.
Your post makes no sense.
Your question makes no sense.


43 posted on 09/07/2012 7:47:24 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GeronL
Notice one odd thing abut your posts/ Everything you post is trash talking Romney/Ryan. Oddly enough you never attack the Progressive Fascist Democrats on anything.

So which Leftist clown posse do you work for?

44 posted on 09/07/2012 7:47:38 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: VideoDoctor

Not really happy about this. I see this as a gateway to legalizing ALL pot use—and maybe even ALL drugs—in the future, which some do want to see. I’d rather go the OTHER way—and make ALL illegal drugs MUCH harder to get.

BUT..there are MUCH bigger “fish to fry” in this election. It will NOT change my, nor do I suspect many true conservatives, votes. And it WILL likely get a few, maybe even MORE than a few “independents” on the team too. A number of people I know, will NOT be unhappy about this one.

Like I said...MUCH bigger fish to fry than to worry about pot this round...


45 posted on 09/07/2012 7:48:27 PM PDT by Rca2000 ( NEVER underestimate the power of "one little election", in WI.....)
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To: Ken H

States Rights. Amendment #10.

Way to go, Paul Ryan!


46 posted on 09/07/2012 7:48:55 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: AAABEST
GeronL

It's a left wing propaganda bot, it will trash talk what ever Romney/Ryan do.

47 posted on 09/07/2012 7:49:29 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: VideoDoctor

I’m with Paul on this too, but I’m thinking of taking the stigma away from the industrial use of basic hemp. Is there a more useful plant in God’s garden?


48 posted on 09/07/2012 7:50:37 PM PDT by bleach (If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.)
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To: Ken H
10th Amendment
49 posted on 09/07/2012 7:50:55 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("If I had a son he'd look like B.O.'s lunch" - Rin Tin Tin)
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To: Gator113

perhaps what is good for dope is good for the unborn...

if federalism applies to MM, why not to the unborn?


50 posted on 09/07/2012 7:51:31 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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