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Establishment Republicans Pass Rule at RNC to Suppress Grassroots Influence
Interview at the Republican National Convention ^ | August 28, 2012 | Julie McCarty

Posted on 09/01/2012 12:26:11 PM PDT by JeepersFreepers

Watch Julie McCarty, President of the NE Tarrant [County TX] Tea Party and delegate to the Republican National Convention. Over strong grassroots opposition, Rule No. 12 was passed which gives the Republican National Committee the authority to change any rule between convention sessions. According to McCarty, “This rule was deliberately designed to suppress grassroots efforts.” "It is the Establishment Republicans saying to the grassroots, 'we do not want to hear from you, we want to do things our own way.'”

They were able to defeat Rule 15. Under this rule, delegates to the National Convention would have no longer been elected at state conventions. Delegates would have been chosen by whomever the assumed nominee would be. However, with Rule No. 12, they have the authority to change the rules to achieve what Rule 15 was intended to accomplish.


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Here we are at the most important election of our lifetime and instead of uniting the party and focusing full attention and efforts on defeating Obama, establishment Republicans start a war to suppress the influence of the grassroots and tea party.
1 posted on 09/01/2012 12:26:15 PM PDT by JeepersFreepers
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To: JeepersFreepers

The Tea Party is growing up. In time this rule will come back to bite them in the be-hind!


2 posted on 09/01/2012 12:30:39 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: Lazamataz

Ping, I think some people will really be surprised when they learn the GOPe’s position on this.


3 posted on 09/01/2012 12:41:57 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: JeepersFreepers

RINO’s have always hated conservatives more than liberal Democrats. Look at how quickly the GOPe jumped on Todd Akin (and defend every liberal Republican) and numerous other examples.


4 posted on 09/01/2012 12:43:31 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: JeepersFreepers
King Arthur: I am your king.
Woman: Well I didn't vote for you.
King Arthur: You don't vote for kings.
Woman: Well how'd you become king then?
[Angelic music plays... ]
King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.
Dennis: [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
King Arthur: Shut Up!
Dennis: Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
King Arthur: Shut Up!
Dennis: Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
King Arthur: Shut Up!
Dennis: Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
King Arthur: Bloody peasant!
Dennis: Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn't you?
 
 
 
 
 
 

5 posted on 09/01/2012 12:59:20 PM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: JeepersFreepers

Did we all notice that the polls give Romney only a 3% jump in the polls? The failure to invite Palin, West, or Arpaio to speak alienated — or, at least failed animate — millions of regular, everyday conservatives. Then, this disenfranchisement move by the GOPe against the grassroots was the coup de grace. This marks the official end of the GOPe-Conservative Christian alliance in the GOP. From now on, the party will be exclusively GOPe, and will go the way of the Whigs. Typical Rovian strategy. Remember under Rove’s advice, Bush BARELY won two elections that he should have won by a landslide.

Reagan’s campaign strategy was to HIGHLIGHT the differences between his positions and those of his opponents (and won twice in a landslide). Rove’s strategy is to hew to the middle and try to peel off enough independents and disgruntled Dems to barely squeak out a victory where the candidate truly stands for little more than sanitized Democratic policies.

Romney has — at least for the time being — lost my vote through this convention rules-change disenfranchisement attack on the grassroots, as well as through his break with the Party Platform’s position on abortion. (I was never happy with him, as — between him and his five sons — not one of them has a single DAY’s service in our miiltary. I find this odd in a man who wants to serve as our country’s commander-in-chief. Remember, the GOPe infinitely prefer to have the conservative Christians send off their sons and daughters to die in foreign wars while they (and their GOPe progeny) stay home where it is safe and orchestrate control over the future of the GOP.)


6 posted on 09/01/2012 1:02:26 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: JeepersFreepers

In the 1950s, William F. Buckley, Jr., led a group that expelled open Jew-haters and isolationists from the Republican Party. Romney and the GOP elites intend to do the same to limited-government and social conservatives.

The intend to make the GOP the counterpart of the ‘moderate socialist’ so-called ‘Christian Democrats’ of Europe.


7 posted on 09/01/2012 1:17:48 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: JeepersFreepers

After the November election, it is time for Real Conservatives to dump the GOP and start a conservative Third Party.

Lets see if the GOPe can win elections with a coalition of Illegal Aliens and Log Cabin Gays...


8 posted on 09/01/2012 1:21:18 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When is Fox News gonna fire Karl Rove?)
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To: Pietro

I agree the teaparty is not there yet but when they are the rinos because of thier selfishness and arogance will go down in flames.


9 posted on 09/01/2012 2:49:42 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Exactly so.

The GOP-e has signed its own suicide pact. The Tea Party found its voice in 2010 and now it has a clear path — and motivation — to become a viable third party.

Romney will win because the need to THROW OBAMA OUT is overwhelming. Even people who don’t have a clue about politics know that the usurper is an unqualified, lying bum who deserves a headlong pitch into the dustbin of history. (He deserves jail time too, but that’s a story for another day.)

Romney will win but he will never have the passion of the electorate. He will therefore be a placeholder president, good for one term only. Romney may be a nice guy, but he’s not a conservative and we need one BADLY right now.

We’ll see what develops in time for the 2016 election.


10 posted on 09/01/2012 3:01:27 PM PDT by DNME (Something wicked this way comes ... between now and January 20. Dig in deep.)
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To: man_in_tx; All
Calm down.
This was an over reaction to the Ron Paul kooks.
Ron Paul supporters are liars who claimed to support Santorum or Romney, but really wanted to cause trouble at the convention.
Ron Paul supporters let “code pink” into the convention.
Ron Paul supporters don't know how to behave, they are rude, disruptive and bully their way around.

Even so, the RNC should not have over reacted.
Also?
No candidate will toss out the Delegates who earned their position, without very good reason to do so.

11 posted on 09/01/2012 3:03:19 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: man_in_tx; All
Calm down.
This was an over reaction to the Ron Paul kooks.
Ron Paul supporters are liars who claimed to support Santorum or Romney, but really wanted to cause trouble at the convention.
Ron Paul supporters let “code pink” into the convention.
Ron Paul supporters don't know how to behave, they are rude, disruptive and bully their way around.

Even so, the RNC should not have over reacted.
Also?
No candidate will toss out the Delegates who earned their position, without very good reason to do so.

12 posted on 09/01/2012 3:03:19 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: SeminoleCounty; All

You are absurd.
What will keep kooks like Ron Paul and elitists like Karl Rove from taking over any “Third Party”???

Your complaint is with human nature, ego, pride and lack of patience and humility.

Those things will be very present in any political party, now or in the future.


13 posted on 09/01/2012 3:05:42 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: JeepersFreepers; Lazamataz

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2925483/posts

Please read this piece by Laz. There seems to be more to this than at first appeared and it MAY give us some ammo to get ourselves a new Speaker next year...and I mean to replace Boehner.


14 posted on 09/01/2012 3:06:27 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: man_in_tx

So you will just help hand Obama another four years? That is a sure way to never make conservatism relevant! If this election is taken by the lib again, conservatism will be in wilderness for decades! That is NOT what I want for my children & grandchildren! We must make gradual steps towards true conservatism and not ruin our chances with such pure ideology.


15 posted on 09/01/2012 3:07:56 PM PDT by ramjam14
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To: JeepersFreepers
The attacks continue.. Mitt has praised his father for the stand he took against "extremism" in 1964..

Rockefeller Republican George Romney and the modern conservative movement..

July 8, 1964

GOP Warned To Beware Of Extremist May Destroy Republicans: Romney Reject infiltrators and purveyors of hate, said the Michigan governor . . . .

Move the little rectangle slightly up and to the left to see story.

Watch out for those Party dudes. They play for keeps. I remember.

In the words of Nelson Rockefeller's public relations head, Stuart Spencer, "We had to destroy Barry Goldwater as a member of the human race."

I recall that following the 1964 election a small number of liberal media types asking did they go too far trying to destroy Goldwater. Apparently the RNC says, "No you did not go far enough."

16 posted on 09/01/2012 3:18:46 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SeminoleCounty
“After the November election, it is time for Real Conservatives to dump the GOP and start a conservative Third Party.”
This is a tall order but with all the progress that TEA Party has made it will not be all that difficult.
A couple of good super large marches on the Capital to protest McRomney and GOPe recruitment of minorities and other like minded conservatives and co-opting most of the TEA Party elected politicians Bingo those Dead Repuglicans will need new drawers.
17 posted on 09/01/2012 5:13:31 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (Death to the GOPe traitors and tyrants.)
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To: WilliamRobert

Time to be afraid. This is the scariest interview I’ve ever read. Very long but worth a read.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/11264-john-cusack-and-jonathan-turley-on-obamas-constitution

Here’s what it’s all about.

Churchill said, “The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist.”


18 posted on 09/01/2012 5:49:58 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: SeminoleCounty

(After the November election, it is time for Real Conservatives to dump the GOP and start a conservative Third Party.)

Agreed. I do not believe the GOP is reclaimable and so conservatives need to start a conservative party or the rinos will slap us around.


19 posted on 09/01/2012 6:19:32 PM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: Kansas58

Calm down.
This was an over reaction to the Ron Paul kooks.
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I am quite calm, thank you.

Methinks that you are too quick to excuse the coldblooded disenfranchisement of the grassroots that the Romney camp perpetrated at the convention. It was obviously not simply directed at the Ron Paul-backers, as it also included an(unfortunate) change in the way primaries will be run in 2016. Perhaps you need to read up more on all they accomplished. Far more damage was done than you discuss in your post.

What they did was inexcusable and epitomizes tyranny.

Furthermore, you have failed to address Romney’s recent statement that he is pro-abortion, which conflicts with the Republican platform.


20 posted on 09/01/2012 8:26:35 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: ramjam14

I believe left myself an out, as I said, “for now.”

However, if I do not change my mind, I will not vote for either socialist, although, admittedly, one of them, at least, is a natural born citizen! :-)


21 posted on 09/01/2012 8:29:56 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: man_in_tx
Romney is not pro-abortion.

Romney still has the support of the National Right to Life Committee.

Obama is the most pro-abortion President in history.

22 posted on 09/01/2012 8:40:45 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

I see you are determined to shill for Romney. Are you denying that in the past week in an interview Romney said he is in favor of abortion in cases of rape, incest, and the health, and the life of the mother?

“The health of the mother” is the all-purpose escape clause used for decades by the pro-aborts.

In my view, Romney is not pro-life, regardless of whose backing he may have.


23 posted on 09/01/2012 8:45:41 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: man_in_tx
Grow up.
It is Romney or Obama.
Obama must go.

All of these other issues can be fixed by taking the Party structure, at the State level, and by elected more conservatives to Congress.

No matter what, Obama must go.

24 posted on 09/01/2012 8:48:37 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Grow up.

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Let’s see, you have now told me to “Calm down,” and to “Grow up.”

You sound a bit petulant. (I am quite grown up, thank you.)

Regarding your Pollyanna-ish prediction about how these issues can be fixed by “taking the Party structure at the State level,” do you have any idea what you are talking about? Are you going to wave your wand and make it happen? In Texas, for example, conservatives have dominated at the state Party level for years. What Romney’s folks did by their Machiavellian maneuvering at the convention was crush the grassroots.

You can try to whitewash it all you want, but serious damage was done — far more damage than I hear you being willing to admit.


25 posted on 09/01/2012 9:16:20 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: SeminoleCounty
Apart from Tennessee (where you have to vote in SIX democrat primaries, not sure if Tennessee residency is required for all of those primaries) is there anything to prohibit conservative Tea Party "alternatives" running on the Democrat tickets in the primaries?

With the Democrat party being comprised primarily of Red Diaper Doper Baby NEW DEMOCRATS of the 1968 revolution that has taken over media, academia, and the DNC, they need to be moved to the RIGHT. The GOP has moved to the LEFT as more OLD style Democrats leave that party to become RINO Republicans.

Push back. Get the benefit of straight party voting.

26 posted on 09/02/2012 7:29:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: OldEarlGray

That about sums it up.


27 posted on 09/02/2012 8:08:38 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (WILLARD 2012 - It's not just a campaign, it's a conservative suicide pact!)
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To: SeminoleCounty

After the election? Why wait?


28 posted on 09/02/2012 8:17:01 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (WILLARD 2012 - It's not just a campaign, it's a conservative suicide pact!)
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To: Kansas58; man_in_tx
Romney is not pro-abortion.

And you are deliberatly lying.

Romney, in the last month, has come out for Abortion in the following cases:

1. Rape
2. Incest
3. Life of the Mother
4. HEALTH OF THE MOTHER

In each of those situations, the baby is murdered. THAT IS ABORTION.
29 posted on 09/02/2012 8:37:43 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Romney is far, far better than Obama.

National Right to Life PAC has endorsed Romney.

Romney has promised to restrict government financing of abortion and has promised to support parental consent laws, informed consent laws, and late term abortion restrictions.

We have had 100% prolife Presidents in the past, and we have not been able to accomplish much more than the above.

Obama is the most radical proabortion President in history.

You support Obama.

YOU are PROABORTION!

Anyone who supports any 3rd Party attempt is PROABORTION.

ANYONE who allows the perfect to be the enemy of the good is PROABORTION!

30 posted on 09/02/2012 8:44:33 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Yes, it is an attempt to dump the Tea Party. If we had these rules in `980, Reagan never would have been prez. As for the gop, forget it! I’m writing in Palin & Sowell.

All they do is use us like toilet paper & then ignore us for the next 4 yrs. They can take a hike as far as I’m concerned.


31 posted on 09/02/2012 10:12:57 AM PDT by Bulgaricus1 (Fill your hand you son...)
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To: Bulgaricus1
Yes, it is an attempt to dump the Tea Party. If we had these rules in `980, Reagan never would have been prez. As for the gop, forget it! I’m writing in Palin & Sowell.

All they do is use us like toilet paper & then ignore us for the next 4 yrs. They can take a hike as far as I’m concerned.


Actually, no. It's intended to stop primary election fraud of the sort the Paulbots engaged in.

One can, I suppose, support election fraud if one wants to, but that preference generally can't be squared with being a conservative or, quite frankly, being honest; it does, however, fit quite nicely with being a democrat/liberal.
32 posted on 09/02/2012 11:31:14 AM PDT by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: Bulgaricus1
Palin and Sowell will both vote for Romney,

But then? They are much smarter than you.

33 posted on 09/02/2012 7:49:22 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: kindred; SeminoleCounty; man_in_tx

If you cannot put enough people to take over the GOP from the “RINOs” you are never going to get enough people together to do the much harder work of forming a viable third party

You people are pathetic. All you want to do is sit on your asses and whine for someone to to hand you a “pure” political party.

Sorry children, NOTHING in life is ever 100% pure. Sitting on your ass whining because everything in politics is not ordered to fit your emotion base dogmas 100% is the behavior of petulant children, not adults.


34 posted on 09/02/2012 7:58:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SoConPubbie; RKBA Democrat; man_in_tx
So because Romney is only 75% on your side you people sit here and actively campaign for Obama who is 100% opposed to everything you claim to be for?

Please tell me you are not this politically stupid! Romney or Obama will be the next President. Spending all your time screaming in hysteria about Romney does one thing, Help O.

That may not be your intention, it is the result of your actions.

Frankly I think you sort of “conservative” are afraid to win anything politically. Winning might actually force you to be FOR something for once instead of just spending all your time sitting at your keyboards mindlessly bitching about everything.

35 posted on 09/02/2012 8:03:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: JeepersFreepers

The Republican convention’s main theme was the economy and getting people jobs. Can anyone explain to me why illegal immigration was not addressed? Afterall America now houses aprroximately 20-40 million illegal aliens of whom at least half have taken American jobs.


36 posted on 09/03/2012 9:35:48 AM PDT by doc
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To: MNJohnnie

Your histrionics have become tiresome. While I would normally ignore posts such as yours perhaps I should take a moment and explain a couple of things.

First, you might not recall this when you signed up to post here, but FR is a conservative website, NOT a gop website. As such there are conservatives of all flavors posting here. To be sure there are plenty of republicans. But there are also Libertarians, and members of other political parties such as the Constitution Party or Falcon party. And even a handful of democrats. And then there are numerous posters such as myself who are currently unaffiliated. The point being that support of the gop or any of its candidates is not a prerequisite for posting here. If you find that difficult to tolerate then I suggest you find another website.

Second, you’re being extremely presumptuous in assuming that you know much of anything about the people you’re talking about and what motivates us, in this case to oppose the candidacy of willard. Each person has their own reasons for opposing willard. Mine are very simple: he isn’t a conservative. But it goes even further than that. I can contemplate the possibility of voting for a non conservative so long as they are pro gun and anti abortion. Unfortunately willard doesn’t even meet those benchmarks. So as far as I’m concerned, there are other candidates running on second party tickets who are conservatives and are pro gun and anti abortion. So I’ll vote for one and urge others to do likewise. Unwilling to compromise? I would have supported virtually any of the candidates in the gop primaries except willard or huntsman. Some may have made me cringe, but I would have done it.

What we’re talking about with willard is not a “compromise” in any sense of the word. A compromise is where I give up something to get something that’s important to me in exchange. What I get with willard is nothing. That isn’t a “compromise” but a capitulation. willards way or the highway.

I’ll take the highway. And the chips can fall where they may.


37 posted on 09/03/2012 11:34:43 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (WILLARD 2012 - It's not just a campaign, it's a conservative suicide pact!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Last Bush and the GOP Congress Federal Deficit 2006, $160 billion

Last Obama and the Dem Congress Federal Deficit 2010, $1.6 Trillion

Even a brain dead Obama propaganda bot such as yourself should be able to do that much math.


38 posted on 09/03/2012 2:35:17 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

You be sure to keep on posting. You’ll convince somebody....

Someday.


39 posted on 09/03/2012 4:43:14 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (WILLARD 2012 - It's not just a campaign, it's a conservative suicide pact!)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Romney or Obama will be the next President.

You have choose, apparently out of nothing more then childish spite that your candidate of choice did not win the GOP nomination, to act as a full time Obama propaganda bot.

If you choose to be that politically stupid, expect to be treated as an idiot. If you object to being treated like an idiot, stop acting like one.

40 posted on 09/03/2012 5:02:35 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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