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Marine Brandon Raub Ordered Released
SFGate ^ | 8/23/12 | LARRY O'DELL

Posted on 08/23/2012 1:41:49 PM PDT by IDRATHERNOT

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To: Pontiac

I don’t believe that being held for observation is the same thing as being committed.

He hasn’t been adjudicated as being incompetent.

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The legal hold is an initial adjudication in this state. It is initiated by a medical or legal person, Nurse Dr SW..., and signed by a doc or PA/ then signed by a court representive (usually JP) Within 24 hours it is signed by an MD and provides a three business day hold.
The loss of right in this state wit with the INITIAL signatures, Not by secondary signatures.


61 posted on 08/23/2012 5:40:48 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Chickensoup

“In our state one loses the right to bear arms when the blue paper is taken out, not whether or not it is validated or not. That’s right, any clown, in any ER can initiate incompetency papers and you lose your rights. “

That not what the laws of Maine say. Initiation of incompetency must continue through to adjudication. The wife is the clinical director of a mental health hospital and a concealed carry holder; me, too. Sorry, urban legend doesn’t make for law and only hurts the pro-gun causes.

All States have a mental health law for gun possession and so does the federal laws. This isn’t anything unique for Maine.


62 posted on 08/23/2012 7:23:59 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: CodeToad

That not what the laws of Maine say. Initiation of incompetency must continue through to adjudication.

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This is no urban legend, this is what is being told to providers and practitioners. I do it for a living.There is no further adjudication in the 3 day hold.


63 posted on 08/23/2012 7:43:00 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: CodeToad

That not what the laws of Maine say. Initiation of incompetency must continue through to adjudication.

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This is no urban legend, this is what is being told to providers and practitioners. I do it for a living.There is no further adjudication in the 3 day hold.


64 posted on 08/23/2012 7:43:00 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

How is his FB posting in ANY way as bad as Michelle Williams’s TRULY racist rant about the black panthers having their “feet on your mother*****ng necks”? Each and EVERY tin badge wearing, donut-munching idiot that had any part of this unConstitutional and unlawful arrest and detention should be FIRED and ROT - and that includes the oath-violating FBI suckups involved.


65 posted on 08/24/2012 4:43:46 AM PDT by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: IDRATHERNOT

I wonder how many thousands have gone through the very same procedure that we don’t hear anything about. The ones that have been secreted away so as to stop any virulent social unrest.


66 posted on 08/24/2012 4:58:36 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: Chickensoup
The loss of right in this state wit with the INITIAL signatures, Not by secondary signatures.

Well someone needs to take that to the Supreme Court.

You are loosing a CIVIL RIGHT on what is basically an accusation.

You can not loose a basic right on nothing more than a preliminary hearing.

Fifth Amendment

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

This law deprives the citizen of a basic right with out due process of law.

67 posted on 08/24/2012 6:29:01 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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In case you didn’t see it.

Marine ordered released

68 posted on 08/24/2012 6:37:44 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Yes, but those people weren’t referring to simply driving by and picking people up on the street and then locking them down for a month and preventing them from contacting the outside world or from having access to a lawyer.

The arguments for that type of thing requires pretty stringent documentation of repeated offenses; and even then a warrant for arrest.

This guy got none of that.


69 posted on 08/24/2012 12:23:22 PM PDT by Noamie
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