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Who's sorry about the Roberts ruling now?
Washington Examiner ^ | 8/22/12 | Noemie Emery

Posted on 08/22/2012 6:29:53 AM PDT by Evil Slayer

Any year now, Democrats may start to ask themselves if it might have been better had John Roberts not changed his mind. If they would be better off with Obamacare out of its and our misery, a bone of contention now safely buried, and not as a bone in their throats.

For one thing, they still have the issue upon them -- the historic triumph they don't dare mention but which Republicans happily do.

Second, were Obamacare no longer the law, we might be seeing an uptick in hiring right now. Instead, that will be deferred until after November (and then possibly only if Romney's elected), and unemployment is rising in 44 states. Unemployment rising in 44 states is not what you want when just ten or so states will decide the election and unemployment has been 8 percent or higher for 41 months.

Third, had Roberts done otherwise, they might still have the issue of Medicare, which at this point they do not. When Paul Ryan was chosen to run with Mitt Romney, liberals planned to rip him to pieces over plans to trim Medicare. Somehow, they forgot that their own health care plan did much the same thing, covering 30 million new clients by draining millions from providers of Medicare. Although these cuts will not directly lead Medicare clients to pay more or lose coverage, they will end with many doctors and hospitals refusing to treat them at all.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamacare; obamatax
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1 posted on 08/22/2012 6:29:56 AM PDT by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer
Although these cuts will not directly lead Medicare clients to pay more or lose coverage, they will end with many doctors and hospitals refusing to treat them at all.

That is what many, many people (mostly liberals) do not understand. A doctor does not have to accept Medicare patients. Many have already stopped taking on new Medicare patients. The unintended consequence is there will come a time in the very near future when a Medicare patient will not be accepted............

2 posted on 08/22/2012 6:35:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Evil Slayer

“...had John Roberts not changed his mind”

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Changed his mind? I think he was bribed or coerced.


3 posted on 08/22/2012 6:35:36 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Evil Slayer
covering 30 million new clients by draining millions from providers of Medicare.

Funny, the main selling point of ObamaCare was covering some 30M uninsured. Coulda just done the same Medicare trick without all the consternation.

(Yes, am aware it was smoke-and-mirrors...)

4 posted on 08/22/2012 6:35:49 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Evil Slayer

Considering the slim odds of Obamacare being repealed, which will likely take a fillibuster-proof senate and a 14 seat gain (Snowe, Collins, Scott Brown can’t be counted on), I would say this article is garbage. Roberts screwed us, plain and simple. Obamacare is still the law and likely will be forever thanks to Justice Roberts.


5 posted on 08/22/2012 6:37:40 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Evil Slayer

I would gladly trade a ruling that maintained Constitutional precepts rather than a temporary political victory that has not even come to fruition yet. Pragmatics that run DC are the cause not the cure.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 6:37:40 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Our first boy is still in diapers, and the older ones are girls. We used to refer to his boy part as his “member of congress” in recognition of the infamous Anthony Weiner.
Now we refer to it as his “chief justice”.


7 posted on 08/22/2012 6:39:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Evil Slayer

This is the sort of thing the electorate should be talking about.

Instead, thanks to Todd Akin’s ignorance and hubris, we’re talking about and will continue to talk about whether “legitimate rape” can result in pregnancy.


8 posted on 08/22/2012 6:40:07 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: wolfman23601

It won’t be “forever” even if not repealed.
It is simply unsustainable. I don’t give it five years.
Of course, the WHOLE system will come down with it as well.


9 posted on 08/22/2012 6:40:49 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Evil Slayer

Roberts may have thought he was protecting the Court, but in fact he has done the exact opposite.

Everything that touches SCOTUS will now be hyper-partisan, today and for the foreseeable future. If we think we’ve seen some bloody knock-down dragouts of confirmation battles, we ain’t seen nothing yet.

I half expect one Party or the other to try and resurrect the FDR Court Packing plan.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 6:40:58 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: wolfman23601
Considering the slim odds of Obamacare being repealed, which will likely take a fillibuster-proof senate

Actually, since it's almost all tax and budget, it can be mostly be dealt with via reconciliation (50% + 1 required, not a super-majority).

11 posted on 08/22/2012 6:41:14 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: Evil Slayer
This is sort of like reasoning that it is a good thing Jimbo Carter was elected president in 1976 instead of Gerald Ford.

True, we might not have had eight wonderful years of Ronald Reagan and the collapse of the iron curtain.

But we also wouldn't be facing a batsh*t crazy nuclear Iran and a Panama Canal Zone controlled by the Red Chinese.

For the sake of the righteous, I still have a childlike belief that God is looking out for and actually cares what happens to this country.

But he allows the American sheeple to experience the results of wicked leadership from time to time so that we are schooled in the consequences of choosing wickedness.

12 posted on 08/22/2012 6:44:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: MrB

I like it.

Roberts sold out the American people for something. I’d like to know what.


13 posted on 08/22/2012 6:45:54 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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Second, were Obamacare no longer the law, we might be seeing an uptick in hiring right now. Instead, that will be deferred until after November (and then possibly only if Romney's elected), and unemployment is rising in 44 states.

AWESOME! That's fantastic! Perish the thought that things may actually start to improve for me or people I love if it hurts Mitt Romney's chances. /s

I'm still and always will be sorry about Roberts' ruling. The Constitution of the United States is not a political toy to be played with.
14 posted on 08/22/2012 6:46:15 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: fatnotlazy

I don’t think Roberts was ever what we thought he was.


15 posted on 08/22/2012 6:48:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: fatnotlazy

Considering the Chicago Thugs involved,
I’m guessing it was a death threat to someone that could not be protected.


16 posted on 08/22/2012 6:48:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Evil Slayer

This article reminds me of the fans who say that a favorite team should lose on purpose to get a high draft pick.

Not to mention the fact that the ACA is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, no matter WHAT Roberts and the other four say.


17 posted on 08/22/2012 6:50:44 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: kevkrom
"Actually, since it's almost all tax and budget, it can be mostly be dealt with via reconciliation (50% + 1 required, not a super-majority)."

Which would bring in the fiasco of the Todd Akin candidacy in Missouri.

18 posted on 08/22/2012 6:51:48 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Evil Slayer

Roberts was, is and always will be wrong.


19 posted on 08/22/2012 6:58:06 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill
“Roberts was, is and always will be wrong.” However, I believe this is a case of God's writing straight with crooked lines. Because Obamacare stands, Romney can make the following true assertion: if Obama is elected, people age 55 and older will see their medical care cut to pay for Obamacare; if Romney is elected, nothing will change for people over age 55. I believe this is why Romney is doing well in Florida polls: people age 55 know they will have a better deal with ROmney than with Obama. This would not be the case if Obamacare had been repealed.

I'm not going to waste energy even thinking about John ROberts anymore. I am praying hard for a ROmney victory, which will be a big step towards taking our country back!

20 posted on 08/22/2012 7:04:22 AM PDT by utahagen
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