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Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race
Wapost ^ | 8/21/12 | Nia-Malika Henderson

Posted on 08/21/2012 10:40:56 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton

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To: DallasSun

32000 babies you want to kill?


421 posted on 08/22/2012 1:48:23 PM PDT by marygonzo
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To: DallasSun
32,000 women per year become pregnant due to rape.

Where did you pull that number from?

422 posted on 08/22/2012 1:51:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FredZarguna

We’re not in disagreement at all. Please reread my comment.


423 posted on 08/22/2012 1:52:38 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

“PS = pinging the site owner just because your guy and his satraps got a taste of the First Amendment is like being the annoying little girl in the first grade who is always tattling to the teacher.”
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LOL - I’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking this thought. His actions reminded me of the Little House on the Prairie character Nellie Oleson tattle telling to the teacher and saying things such as “I’ll fix her. You’ll see.”


424 posted on 08/22/2012 2:53:35 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Uncle Chip
[Text omitted by Uncle Chip: 'most rapes occur in women under 25, and pre-pubescent girls, post-menopausal women and visibly pregnant women are statistically underrepresented among female rape victims, according to Gordon Gallup, an evolutionary psychologist at SUNY-Albany who wrote about rape-related pregnancy in The Oxford Handbook of Sexual Conflict in Humans.

'"Rapists don't pick victims at random," Gallup says.] "Unbeknownst to them, rapists clearly target victims based on their likelihood of conception.

So then, even though rapists are subconsciously obstetricians privy to their victims' ovulation schedules

The text you omitted made explicitly clear that your straw man was not the argument being made. Your deceptive misdirection is noted and disapproved.

425 posted on 08/22/2012 4:15:07 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Hey Justsay..., I did read and appreciate the article. My opinion of it changed afterwards. The author interestingly enough agreed with what Akin erringly said although inadvertently and from a different perspective.

It also confirmed what I thought about that 32,000 rape pregnancies per year figure by calling the number "squishy" because they are "self-reported" rather than hard numbers from hospital and police reports, unless of course they are including statutory rapes from Planned Parenthood records. Then that 32,000 rape pregnancy figure makes more sense.

426 posted on 08/22/2012 4:31:51 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
I did read and appreciate the article.

Then why did you lie about its content? It never said "rapists are subconsciously obstetricians privy to their victims' ovulation schedules" as you claimed.

427 posted on 08/22/2012 7:42:15 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Because this statement is over the top:

"Unbeknownst to them, rapists clearly target victims based on their likelihood of conception."

and without evidence in the article.

428 posted on 08/22/2012 8:01:24 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: combat_boots
I read your comment as being in the camp of the "no compromise" people, who believe it's better to have principles but no power.

If you reread your comment, I think this is a fair reading.

The purist position is one I can't accept: FReepers, including Jim Robinson, who blast Romney because they believe his ilk will destroy the Republic in 20 years instead of four are simply wrong. Twenty more years is twenty more years to fight. I'll take that if that's the alternative to everything going down the drain during the next term. If 0bamacare remains in place until its implementation in 2014, it's the beginning of the inevitable destruction of the ancient republic.

If I read your comment in the light of history: "Liberty and Union, now and forever, one and Inseparable," or of America as "the last best hope of earth." Then we agree, and I'm glad we do. After America -- and by that I mean the America of the Founders -- there will be no civilization. We are teetering toward that end.

429 posted on 08/22/2012 9:03:27 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Liberty and Union, now and forever, one, and inseparable.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Because this statement is over the top:

"Unbeknownst to them, rapists clearly target victims based on their likelihood of conception."

and without evidence in the article.

I've already posted the evidence in the article twice now. Here it is for a third time:

"most rapes occur in women under 25, and pre-pubescent girls, post-menopausal women and visibly pregnant women are statistically underrepresented among female rape victims, according to Gordon Gallup, an evolutionary psychologist at SUNY-Albany who wrote about rape-related pregnancy in The Oxford Handbook of Sexual Conflict in Humans."

430 posted on 08/23/2012 8:34:54 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Gordon G. Gallup
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gordon G. Gallup, Jr. (born 1941) is a psychologist of the University at Albany’s Psychology department, researching biopsychology. He received his Ph.D. from Washington State University in 1968, after which he joined the faculty of the Psychology Department at Tulane University. He is best known for developing the mirror test, also called the mirror self-recognition test, or MSR, in 1970, which gauges self-awareness of animals. In 1975, Gallup moved to the University at Albany.

During his tenure at Tulane, Gallup also developed a research interest in tonic immobility, or “animal hypnosis,” which he continued at the University at Albany. His later work on animal behavior was concerned with ethological approaches to the study of animal behavior under laboratory conditions, which he pursued with Susan Suarez in the 1980s.

Since the 1990s, Gallup has researched human evolutionary psychology exclusively. Gallup’s article entitled “Does Semen Have Antidepressant Properties?”[1] attracted the attention of the media[2] when it was published in 2002. Gallup commented, “I want to make it clear that we are not advocating that people abstain from using condoms, clearly an unwanted pregnancy or a sexually transmitted disease would more than offset any advantageous psychological effects of semen.”
[edit]Publications

Gallup, G.G., Jr. (1970). Chimpanzees: Self Recognition. Science, 167, 86-87.
Gallup, G. G., Jr. (l977). Self-recognition in primates: A comparative approach to the bidirectional properties of consciousness. American Psychologist, 32, 329-338.
Gallup, G. G., Jr., Burch, R. L., & Platek, S. M. (2002). Does semen have antidepressant properties? Archives of Sexual Behavior, 31, 289-293.
Hughes, S.M., Dispenza, F., Gallup, G.G., Jr., (2004). Ratings of voice attractiveness predict sexual behavior and body configuration. Evolution and Human Behavior, 25, 295-304.
Platek, S.M., Burch, R.L., Panyavin, I.S., Wasserman, B.H., & Gallup, G.G., Jr. (2002).Reactions to children’s faces: Resemblance affects males more than females. Evolution and Human Behavior, 23, 159-166 .
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^ Gallup, G. G., Jr., Burch, R. L., & Platek, S. M. (2002). Does semen function as an antidepressant? Archives of Sexual Behavior, 31, 289-293.
^ Raj Persaud (2002). Semen acts as an anti-depressant. New Scientist.
[edit]External links

Faculty page
Human Behavior and Evolution Laboratory


431 posted on 08/23/2012 8:39:48 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: proud American in Canada

Sorry about the shoulder.

I did have a great-aunt who was sick and decided to lay down and die, which she did.

My sainted mother did pretty much the same thing. She decided, took to the sick bed and died by the end of the second day.

The political fight Akin wages now is apparently a bridge too far, and, perhaps heavily influenced by McCaskill thugs.


432 posted on 08/23/2012 3:12:26 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: FredZarguna

I did go back and reread my comment. You’re right. I have drawn my line in the sand. I do believe that we can have a country but not abortion.

It does look as though Akin is a goner, politically. But, he’s right about abortion.

We are and have been pretty much gone as a country for awhile now. Spots are still America, though. God will not hold us harmless for being forced to fund abortion on demand, including partial-birth and after-birth baby killing, like pResident Infanticide (which will turn into ______ XYZacide.


433 posted on 08/23/2012 3:20:56 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Uncle Chip

What part of the phrase “acute stress” escapes your understanding??? Isn’t rape acutely stressful???

ubcle chip, please...I clearly stated that the woman had to be ovulating in order to become pregnant from the rape...thus defeating the premise of your post, which deals with pre-ovulation stress inkibiting pregnancy...if the woman was not stressed out enough prior to the rape to not ovulate, then your study is out the window...for some reason, I’m sure you see this, and are just being obstreperous...


434 posted on 08/24/2012 3:46:31 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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