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Court strikes down major pollution rule (EPA loses)
The Hill ^ | August 21, 2012 | Ben Geman

Posted on 08/21/2012 10:15:54 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo

For a kid from the midwest on his first trip to SoCal, it was pretty impressive.

Kind of amazing that Ontario Speedway only lasted 10 years.

And then 17 years later they built Fontana, only a couple miles down the interstate.


21 posted on 08/21/2012 2:28:53 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
It's a shame they couldn't keep it open, they had four counties with a huge population to draw from for not only race events but other type events.

What a waste. I can't remember what all was put in there after it was leveled but it was probably homes and shopping.

22 posted on 08/21/2012 2:51:04 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Graewoulf
Tricky RINO Nixon also recognized Red China, lost the Vietnam War, gave us forced busing, food stamps, and racial quotas for schools and hiring.

Yup, but people will still continue to vote for people based on the "R" beside their name.

23 posted on 08/21/2012 3:58:41 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: jazusamo

Jazusamo: You re absolutely right about the once needed role of an active EPA. I remember seeing a yellow cloud over the Golden Gate Bridge and wondering what it was (1970, on my way to visit Nam).

However, Clinton appointed Marxist Carol Browner (ISO) as the head of the EPA in the mid-90’s and it has been downhill ever since.

Bush missed his chance to revamp the EPA and get rid of the environ-wackos. Obama filled the place up with marxists and weirdos and voodoo scientists.

Now you’d have to fumigate the place to clean the reds and wackos out.

[Not all EPA employees are leftists. Many are dedicated people who don’t believe in all this marxist crap].


24 posted on 08/21/2012 4:05:13 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: jazusamo
This is good news, indeed. But I worry that the damage is done. Power companies will continue to phase out coal plants because their future now lies in the vagaries of politics.

Now, phasing out the coal-powered plants wouldn't be as harmful if it weren't so damned difficult to approve gas-powered plants [not to mention the loss of the immensely profitable coal industry.]

Until the current administration is turned out of office, court rulings like this one, though gratifying, will not halt the destruction of America's coal industry and the weakening of our power grid.

25 posted on 08/21/2012 4:18:35 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Without economic freedom, no other form of freedom can have material meaning.)
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To: BfloGuy
You're exactly right about this administration and the coal industry.

Obama has to go in this election. Period!!

26 posted on 08/21/2012 4:24:05 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
"...In the ‘50s I lived in So CA in a home about 1.5 miles from the San Gabriel Mtns. There were many days in the summer months we could barely see the closest mountain from our neighborhood due to smog, it was terrible and so bad our lungs would actually hurt..."

Well, you lived in the foothills, pal, and the constant temperature-inversion trapped all the automotive and Industrial crap. You only got relief when the Santa Anna winds blew that shit into the desert.

"...Not all things in the ‘70s that the states and the EPA did were bad, they were responsible for many needed improvements. The problem is that for the last 20 or so years they've gone to the extreme and have had the backing of the enviro wacko movement. They now need to disappear..."

I agree that the EPA needs to be reined-in, but remember that So-Cal still has that inversion problem, so plug all the chimmleys ............................................ FRegards

27 posted on 08/21/2012 8:01:40 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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28 posted on 08/21/2012 8:05:32 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: jazusamo

I predict that the EPA will simply ignore the court’s ruling and do what they want to do.

The Sackett’s are still fighting those a$$holes in court IN SPITE of the ruling by the supremes.


29 posted on 08/21/2012 8:46:18 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: gonzo
Yep, we did have an inversion layer problem and they still do down there. The Santa Ana winds blow from the desert and blow the crap out to sea but don't start until the fall, usually Oct and go to Dec normally, they're no help in the summer months.

There are umteen times the autos down there now as there were in the 50s, 60s and 70s but regulations for autos and industry have cleaned the place up tremendously.

30 posted on 08/21/2012 9:07:25 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


31 posted on 08/22/2012 10:02:57 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; jazusamo
I think there is still a need for the EPA, but it needs better checks and balances to prevent abuse. They shouldn't be able to impose fines without a court hearing.

There needs to be something similar to an office of civil rights, or GAO, that's not focused on racial civil rights or accounting audits, but rather abuses of the Federal government.

This office need to step in, investigate and fight for the rights of individuals when any branch of the Federal government oversteps or fails to preform it's duties. They need to close the loopholes in legislation when rights are violated. But in no event should they be able to delay existing forms of redress. And they probably should answer to Congress not the Executive.

32 posted on 08/22/2012 11:17:37 AM PDT by DannyTN
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