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'Top Gun' director Tony Scott dead after jumping off bridge
LA Times ^ | 8-19-12

Posted on 08/19/2012 9:45:36 PM PDT by kingattax

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To: Talisker

We will find out but>>>

Just bring a decent ladder and you are over that 10ft fence in no time. I would scale it with a rope too so I could get down the other side without breaking a leg. A concrete block (maybe 2) tied to the other end of the rope


51 posted on 08/20/2012 12:59:18 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: Talisker

A man who has directed action films knows enough to quickly get over that 10 ft fence to where he can jump. He planned this out same as a director plans out a movie. Accounts say there was no hesitation, he moved quickly


52 posted on 08/20/2012 1:02:32 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw; Talisker

Earlier, Scott tried to jump off of a pier but was unsuccessful.
That’s what the updated account says, but I can’t figure out what that means. A pier?


53 posted on 08/20/2012 1:07:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Nitehawk0325

Perhaps he was a closet conservative and couldn’t take the pressure anymore, the guilt, the hiding from his hollywierd friends.


54 posted on 08/20/2012 1:13:30 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Lancey Howard
That’s what the updated account says, but I can’t figure out what that means.

In Hollywood jargon, it means he could not get his desired outcome in one take. Few Hollywod directors have gotten their desired outcome in one take other than One Take Woody Van Dyke.

55 posted on 08/20/2012 1:13:30 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: dennisw
Denzel Washington about the only black actor I like

Seriously?
You don't like James Earl Jones? Samuel L. Jackson? Ving Rhames? Wesley Snipes? Laurence Fishburne? Michael Clarke Duncan? Morgan Freeman? Just for starters... Those are some excellent actors right there.

56 posted on 08/20/2012 1:17:27 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: CaptainK; All

57 posted on 08/20/2012 1:18:16 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: dixiechick2000; ntnychik; devolve; potlatch; FARS; Fred Nerks; little jeremiah
Enemy of the State (1998) an excellent preview to the present: NSA builds million-square-foot data center in Utah.
58 posted on 08/20/2012 1:24:23 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: Lancey Howard
James Earl Jones? Samuel L. Jackson? Ving Rhames? Wesley Snipes? Laurence Fishburne? Michael Clarke Duncan? Morgan Freeman?

They may be good and popular actors but I just don't like their on-screen style with Morgan Freeman being the most detestable. I will not see a movie with this overbearing buffoon.

  1. James Earl Jones?   can't stand watching this phony
  2. Samuel L. Jackson?   good on occasion
  3. Wesley Snipes?  I like him especially in "Passenger in seat 57"
  4.  Laurence Fishburne?  one fugly dude I hope he gets sucked into the "Event Horizon"

59 posted on 08/20/2012 1:25:28 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: kingattax

Tony Scott in 2009.

R.I.P.

60 posted on 08/20/2012 1:32:39 AM PDT by TChad
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To: Ann Archy
Jesus would have helped him.....if he would have asked. Very sad.....suicied is so selfish.

We do not know that. Often it is not even knowable. People are mortal, which means everyone dies sooner or later. Who among us has the ultimate knowledge of how any given person's life should end? Does anyone on this planet has some sort of a Master Plan to look at? I don't think so.

Doctor: You have an untreatable illness. You are not young; in fact, you lived a full life and made good things. But all good things come to an end. Your choices are: (a) to spend all your money, about a million per month, on the best palliative treatment - and you will be either in pain or asleep all the time. Or (b) - you give your money to someone else, like your children, or a charity, or a complete stranger so that they can do something useful with it. Understand that the money you will spend in (a) will not do you any good - once it ends you die. Also this money will fall under the broken window fallacy, meaning that the money will simply disappear from the society - the labor of hundreds, if not thousands of workers will be wasted because they will not be able to save you anyway. Expensive (hard to make) drugs and irreplaceable time of doctors will be wasted on a hopeless patient instead of helping someone who can be healed.

Will this patient want to sacrifice himself, deprive himself of a few more months in this world, so that he can do the last good deed for his loved ones? Or perhaps he will choose to be selfish (yes, that word again) and spend all his money on keeping his unconscious body alive until the money runs out?

Who is the hero here, where is the sacrifice and where is selfishness, in what scenario?

The trouble with canned solutions is that they are often wrong. Suicide of a warrior before the battle is certainly a shame, and you can say that the warrior is selfish. On the other hand, suicide of a warrior who throws himself onto a live grenade to protect his team is anything but selfish. One judgement does not fit all.

61 posted on 08/20/2012 2:04:30 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: Greysard
How ridiculous!!! The soldier that throws himself on a grenade to save fellow soldiers ISN'T committing Suicide!! He is doing the NOBLEST of deeds, just like Jesus.....they gave up their lives for friends. There is NOTHING better than that.

If a person wants to spend HIS OWN MONEY to try to stay alive, that's HIS perogative. Now with OBABAMCARE, no one will have that choice......the person will be pushed down the HOSPICE CHUTE ASAP.

62 posted on 08/20/2012 2:47:29 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: kingattax

Suicide is so hard to understand and leaves such destruction behind. My DIL’s father killed himself a few weeks ago. It is heartbreaking to see the family trying to understand and deal with it! Apparently, he started on a new drug for tremors and three days later, he killed himself. Turns out suicide is one of the side effects of that drug. My DIL wants to “explore” this once she is over the shock and has finished probate. Things he left behind indicate that it was almost a spur-of-the-moment decision...SO sad! His timing couldn’t have been worse either. He did it on the anniversary of my baby grandson’s death and was buried on the day my other grandson’s birthday! That alone indicates he wasn’t thinking normally.


63 posted on 08/20/2012 2:55:58 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: kingattax

I remember seeing the the movie “Top Gun” years ago. Very sad.


64 posted on 08/20/2012 2:58:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: kingattax; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
It's like a fellow I once knew in El Paso. One day... he just took all his clothes off and jumped in a mess of cactus. I asked him that same question, "Why?"

And... ?

He said, "It seemed... to be a good idea at the time."

65 posted on 08/20/2012 2:59:49 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Another victim of Hollyweird.

Well true, but the general population commit suicide way more than Hollywood stars, directors, producers etc.


66 posted on 08/20/2012 2:59:57 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: Ann Archy

That is why this year’s election is so important in order to get rid of Obamacare.


67 posted on 08/20/2012 3:03:22 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: MaxMax
Suicide is the coward's way out.

Let's say you're 68. You go to the doctor, who tells you your test results have come back and you've got inoperable pancreatic cancer. He says you've got a year to live, maybe with chemotherapy they can extend it to two, but they will be a painful two years and you will watch yourself withering away during that period. And, by the way, that $2m twenty year term insurance policy you bought when you were 50 will be expiring in another year and a half. I'm not saying that's the scenario, but it could be. Would you view jumping off that bridge as a cowardly act under those circumstances?

68 posted on 08/20/2012 3:19:04 AM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: netmilsmom; cubreporter; Secret Agent Man; dixiechick2000; Vendome
Being diagnosed with Alzheimer's is one reason I can think of. I already went through that with my ex-wife's mother. And my own mother was diagnosed with it six months ago. I do not look forward to the next five years.

I have begged my wife and my closest friends that if something like that happens to me, to please take me to Minnesota in the dead of winter and drop me in a lake. I hope I have the sense to make that drive and take that plunge myself if that situation arises. From the other side, it is without question the most horrible insanity I have ever experienced.

69 posted on 08/20/2012 3:20:44 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: MomofMarine
So sad......that's a heartbreaking story and it sounds like the medicine drove him to suicide......that's WAY different than what usually drives one to do it.

Prayers for you DIL.

70 posted on 08/20/2012 3:21:28 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: KevinB

Yes......one needs to TRUST GOD in ALL things.


71 posted on 08/20/2012 3:23:30 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Thank you! She needs prayers. That poor girl has lost a teenaged sister, two children and now this! She is the strongest person I’ve even known, but how much can one person take?


72 posted on 08/20/2012 3:30:04 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: Talisker

No, they saw someone who looked like him.
I say he's in Tahiti, free from his family and financial obligations, sitting on a yacht.

73 posted on 08/20/2012 3:45:08 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: dennisw
The Pillars of the Earth (2010)
Medieval drama brought to the screen by Ridley and Tony Scott.

Thanks Mr. Scott. I enjoyed it allot.

74 posted on 08/20/2012 4:07:12 AM PDT by Daaave (Was blind but now I see)
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To: Lancey Howard

Agree. Didn’t someone jump off a building in that movie?


75 posted on 08/20/2012 4:09:38 AM PDT by Perdogg (Mutts for Mitt all agree - Better in the crate than on the plate)
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To: kingattax

Generally I hate it when the grammar police come out but is it really that hard to spell suicide? I think I’ve seen it misspelled 4 times in this thread.


76 posted on 08/20/2012 4:14:36 AM PDT by eak3
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To: cubreporter

5 identical posts! Is that a new record?


78 posted on 08/20/2012 4:20:36 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: kingattax

Crimson Tide was not a good movie. I can see his carreer was going hill. Also it was made in 1995.


79 posted on 08/20/2012 4:26:43 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: donna

You obviously know nothing about genetic predispostions and chemical imbalances in the brain.

My suggestion: get some education on the topic before you demonstrate your ignorance on the topic again.


80 posted on 08/20/2012 4:29:21 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Jacknudy

We always get these ‘cowards’ comments on these suicide posts from not very educated people who immediatley judge.
Its routine here..but at least then some posters post some worthwhile information on depression and suicide, so others get educated.


81 posted on 08/20/2012 4:33:55 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Ann Archy

Oh, Lord have mercy...
Now the “sin” comments.

How in heavens’ name can you make such a comment when you know NOTHING about this man’s personal life?

I guess if we just pray hard enough, that should take care of any chemical imbalances in the brain...Your types really add more pain to those who are suffering from a clinical depression. Why do you think God gave us doctors and medicine? Even then, we can’t always understand God’s greater plans.

suggestion:
1. Don’t judge what you don’t know anything about.
2. Get information on the causes of suicide.
4. Use spell check.


82 posted on 08/20/2012 4:39:09 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Don’t think you’ve recovered yet from your drugs.....Prayer s will LEAD you to the BEST DOCTORS and BEST MEDICINE.....geesh....don’t you pray???


83 posted on 08/20/2012 4:44:58 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: MomofMarine

OMG!


84 posted on 08/20/2012 4:45:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Greysard

Rad Job.

Humans are not given the authority to take a life except in the case of self defense or in the execution of capital punishment.

The reason why suicide is selfish, actually an extreme consequence of prolonged arrogance, is that the thinking within the mind of a suicide is directed at self, rather than through faith in Christ.

One might not be able to say much about the cause other than an absolute truth that it manifests arrogance.


85 posted on 08/20/2012 4:46:59 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Again, read Job.

Suicide is not performed through faith in Christ.


86 posted on 08/20/2012 4:48:40 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Ann Archy

Brilliant...attack my screen name..that is just so novel.Gosh, no one has ever done that to prove an argument.

Guess the guy is just as not perfect as you in your prayers to God or maybe this wouldn’t have happened. Guess he just didn’t pray hard enough. Now if you had been around YOU could have helped him pray.

Keep your sanctimonious religion...I will keep my compassionate God.


87 posted on 08/20/2012 4:50:12 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Have enough compassion to slowly think through how somebody thinks when they pursue suicide.

Is the object of their thinking in obedience to God and His Plan for our life? Is it fundamentally focused on a carnal way of thinking?

How does one think if one is in righteous fellowship with God?

If in doubt, have enough compassion to think how Christ thought when He remained in obedience to God the Father as He walked towards Calvary.


88 posted on 08/20/2012 4:58:53 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: kingattax

Would have been more apt if he had directed a submarine flick. He could have hollered “AH-OO-GA...AH-OO-GA....DIVE, DIVE”.....then dove off the bridge.


89 posted on 08/20/2012 5:02:38 AM PDT by jmax (Full mag inserted, round in chamber, hammer is back...safety is OFF.)
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To: Ann Archy

Wow, prayers solve all your problems, guaranteed? Gosh, I didn’t realise it was so simple. Are you really that credulous?


90 posted on 08/20/2012 5:04:07 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Paul Ryan pushed him.


91 posted on 08/20/2012 5:09:15 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Wow, prayers solve all your problems, guaranteed?

No, God solves all your problems, guaranteed. Reject what He provides and you're a loser.

92 posted on 08/20/2012 5:12:07 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: kingattax

Sad. RIP.


93 posted on 08/20/2012 5:22:21 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: donna

Not only that but also what doors it opens spiritually for his family. Not good.


94 posted on 08/20/2012 5:25:00 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: kingattax
Tony Scott
95 posted on 08/20/2012 5:28:03 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Yes......PRAYERS.....try it sometime.


96 posted on 08/20/2012 5:29:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Biblebelter

Its “Do not go gentle into that good night” meaning that even thought the hereafter is good one should “rage” or fight against death. It is our duty to fight on. Dylan Thomas’ poem to his father shows much more love than the trendy “Gee I hate that the old guy is suffering so I guess he should just take a big dose of Morphine and...”


97 posted on 08/20/2012 5:39:58 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Daaave

THANKS! I read that book years ago and will try to get the DVD


98 posted on 08/20/2012 6:50:34 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: kingattax

Tony and Ridley Scott ran Scott Free Productions and were working jointly on a film called Killing Lincoln, based on the best-seller by Bill O’Reilly.


99 posted on 08/20/2012 7:12:38 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: napscoordinator
Well true, but the general population commit suicide way more than Hollywood stars, directors, producers etc.

Many of whom are also victims of Hollyweird.

100 posted on 08/20/2012 7:57:31 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri says: Romney never met a homosexual he didn't like.)
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