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Out Of Touch President Obama Fiddles While Tombstone, AZ Burns
Forbes ^ | 8/13/2012 | Ralph Benko,

Posted on 08/19/2012 1:01:53 PM PDT by george76

Welcome to the Wild West, 2012 style. The Feds to Tombstone: “If you want to fix your water line, better lawyer up and talk to President Obama.”...

Obama, is truly the out of touch candidate. The U.S. Forest Service — of which the president is ultimate boss — is preventing, on the flimsiest of excuses, Tombstone Arizona from rebuilding its water pipeline. Obama, conniving, is putting Tombstone, a fixture of American history, in mortal danger.

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A massive forest fire in 2011 wiped out the vegetation in Coronado National Park, wherein lies Tombstone’s waterworks — which were destroyed by the following torrential rains.

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The ensuing monsoon damage was severe but readily fixable. Except that Tombstone’s water sources are surrounded by a designated wilderness area. Their water was privately owned and therefore exempted by President Teddy Roosevelt from national forest status … and, thus, exempted from the Wilderness Act. That Act applies only to national forest, not private property. And yet, the U.S. Forest service takes the position that Tombstone needs its permission to bring in tractors and bulldozers to clear the rubble throttling its water supplies.

Tombstone cannot survive long on the tiny wells located in town or on the small amount of water it temporarily was able to hand patch through its water main. It needs to use regular earth-moving equipment to repair its lines.

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if Barack Obama lets the Forest Service arbitrarily, perhaps even illegally, refuse to allow Tombstone to rebuild its water lines, Obama just might end up reading, by firelight, his own political tombstone: Barack Obama, Out of Touch.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Idaho; US: New Mexico; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: agenda21; animalrights; ar; esa; forestservice; tombstone; un; un21; unagenda21; usfs; water; watersources; wilderness

1 posted on 08/19/2012 1:01:57 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

You can’t BUILD THAT!


2 posted on 08/19/2012 1:06:50 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: george76

Any town that simply waits for federal permission to conduct normal day to day business is no longer a town; it is a federal protectorate. Notify the forest service when the tractors will be there, send the janitor to court when they sue, and get on with the business of being a town.

And when the judge looks at the janitor and asks why he or she is there representing the city, have the janitor note that everyone else is busy restoring the damage from a disaster, and they’re simply here to clean up the mess.


3 posted on 08/19/2012 1:07:21 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: jazusamo; Flycatcher; familyop; GladesGuru; SierraWasp; CedarDave; girlangler; rellimpank; ...

** reduce global greenhouse gas emissions ... buy out farms and ranches rather than maintain Ag production ... we could buy up millions of acres of Ag land and permanently retire them from production.

These lands could be restored and dedicated to other public benefits like protection of watersheds, wildlife habitat, and ...

to the degree that this Ag land retirement results in less cattle and other livestock production, we may see some reduction in Greenhouse Gas emissions. **

— George Wuerthner is an ecologist and

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2012/08/15/livestock-partially-responsible-for-drought-conditions/


4 posted on 08/19/2012 1:12:31 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I spent some time (and money) in Tombstone this summer with the grandkids. I remember my parents taking me there as a kid and loved it, as did my grandkids. I met lots of wonderful liberty minded people from there.


5 posted on 08/19/2012 1:12:52 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: george76

Don’t be surprised if the Obama dictatorship gives back the Gadsden Purchase to Mexico by the end of the year... even if we have an election and they lose in November.


6 posted on 08/19/2012 1:14:52 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: george76

Since the ecology movement got running in high gear headed towards full compliance with U.N. Agenda 21 out government has allowed to creation of 17 different agencies managing and growing the sphere of federal forests. Subsequently, nothing can be managed and things are going up in smoke all over the country and environmental lobbyists control everything with no accountability or liability.


7 posted on 08/19/2012 1:19:25 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: george76

DemocRATS hate Arizona because the taxpayers here refuse to support the ‘RAT voters coming in from south of the border.


8 posted on 08/19/2012 1:27:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: george76

So, it is obama vs PresidentTeddy Roosevelt.

Thank you for the article. I live in Phoenix and was not aware of the situation.

obama’s I got your back statement is very telling!


9 posted on 08/19/2012 1:30:00 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: george76

The bastard and his bastard-lets are willing to kill a town for the sake of upholding a creepy damned anti-human, anti-civilizational “regulation.”


10 posted on 08/19/2012 1:31:03 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Another SHOOT-OUT at the OK Corral, huh?


11 posted on 08/19/2012 1:39:13 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: george76

If I was Arizona, I’d build the dang pipeline anyhoo. Screw the feds, what can they do?


12 posted on 08/19/2012 1:41:06 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: george76
Oh, come on ....give the guy a break. He may be fiddling around, but he wants to be a family man. According to Drudge, he just wants to talk a little about his kids' camp experience...He's had a rough week on the links.

S/off

13 posted on 08/19/2012 1:44:12 PM PDT by jmax (Full mag inserted, round in chamber, hammer is back...safety is OFF.)
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To: B4Ranch; Myrddin

Tara Teel, being a career student has been a way of life for her. With a Ph.D. degree, an M.S. degree and a B.S. degree she is now an Associate Professor in the Department of Human Dimensions of Natural Resources at Colorado State University...

One of her students had this to say about her, “Unfortunately, she acts patronizing and self-righteous to cover up her many shortcomings, including a lack of any real non-academic work experience. Unfortunately most of us don’t live in the theoretical world where she does. The Ivory Tower will certainly protect her from every-day life.”

Now Tara Teel will be telling Idaho sportsmen and residents why they should welcome environmental and animal rights groups to help manage the state’s wildlife resources. Interesting enough, her Colorado State University faculty profiles shares that one of her greatest research interests is “attitude-behavior change theory in psychology” – which kind of goes hand-in-hand with the Delphi Technique of manipulating public consensus.

http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2012/08/18/idaho-department-of-fish-and-game-wildlife-summit-creating-extreme-resentment-from-the-states-sportsmen-groups/

the Idaho Department of Fish and Game sponsored “Wildlife Summit”, which is to be held at the Riverside Hotel in Boise September 24 thru 26 – and at six other satellite locations around the state.


14 posted on 08/19/2012 1:46:33 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Tell Bronco Bomber and the feds to go pee up a rope. Fix the damn water line and dare them to come and shut you down ... sending in the jack booted thugs is not the kind of media exposure they want right now.


15 posted on 08/19/2012 1:47:36 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: kingu

Excellent!


16 posted on 08/19/2012 1:49:59 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: george76
The Clown not only doesn't care what happens in Arizona, he despises us and will go to any length to sue us, shame us, and chastise us.

I am glad to see someone else is paying attention to this ILLEGAL AMNESTY for DREAMERS that the CONGRESS REJECTED. Obama’s DREAM Act-lite runs into more trouble
17 posted on 08/19/2012 2:00:29 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: tx_eggman

Klintoon & Reno got away with it at Waco, didn’t they? 0bummer&TheRegimeFromHell has been 10x worse, and it’s a l-o-n-g way from over.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 2:01:30 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: george76

i was raised in AZ and been to Tombstone several times. truly a piece of American and western history.

screw the government, fix the pipes and let the government explain why they should not receive life sustaining water.

let the government explain why some citizens deserve to die of thirst.

that would be an interesting position for the fascists to take into the public arena.

Blessings, bobo


19 posted on 08/19/2012 2:09:30 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: Irish Eyes
obama’s I got your back statement is very telling!

But when Obama says "I got your back", what he really means is:

"I got my eye on your back, looking for a good place to stick the knife in."

20 posted on 08/19/2012 2:13:40 PM PDT by Bob
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To: george76

The environmentalist/ecology/conservationism movement is really about sweeping all peasant trash from rural areas and preventing new, productive business competition. They live an artificial world away from common people and assume that their own perceptions—even about what they see with their own eyes—are real.


21 posted on 08/19/2012 2:25:17 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: familyop

Some academics have degrees but no common sense; others are even worse.

They know not what they do


22 posted on 08/19/2012 2:41:08 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; jazusamo; Flycatcher; familyop; GladesGuru; SierraWasp; girlangler; rellimpank
These lands could be restored and dedicated to other public benefits like protection of watersheds, wildlife habitat, and ...

And now we will have to protect them for Jaguars:

Feds propose 1,200 sq. miles for jaguar habitat in S. AZz (and more in NM)

23 posted on 08/19/2012 2:48:57 PM PDT by CedarDave (Palin/Ryan -- both should have been at the top of the ticket and not play second fiddle to GOPe)
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To: Bob
But when Obama says "I got your back", what he really means is:

"I got my eye on your back, looking for a good place to stick the knife in."

That is so very true.

24 posted on 08/19/2012 2:49:21 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: george76

That’s true. I’ve seen some who were quite spoiled, affected and conducting their classes and departments as playpens for acts of revenge against healthier groups.


25 posted on 08/19/2012 3:16:54 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: CedarDave

Imported, not native Jaguars ?

Like the imported, not native Canadian wolves .


26 posted on 08/19/2012 3:19:21 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Undocumented jaguars from Mexico.


27 posted on 08/19/2012 3:27:01 PM PDT by CedarDave (Palin/Ryan -- both should have been at the top of the ticket and not play second fiddle to GOPe)
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To: bobo1

“let the government explain why some citizens deserve to die of thirst.

that would be an interesting position for the fascists to take into the public arena.”

But that is what the enviroleft really believes.

“Humanity is a virus infecting the earth mother goddess Gaia.”

Of course the enviroleft nomenklatura are exempt from that dogma.


28 posted on 08/19/2012 3:57:14 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: george76
Sadly, I'm 900 miles from home. It's hard to stay on top of Idaho issues when stuck in San Diego.
29 posted on 08/19/2012 9:14:39 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: george76
Where's Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday when you need them? :-)

On a 'series' note. Politics has always been a part of Tombstone's history and was a major factor in the 'Gun Fight At The OK Corral' in October 1881.

The Earp brothers and the town leaders were Republicans. The locals, like the corrupt Sheriff John Behan and his cattle thief cronies the Clantons, McLaurys and the Cowboys, were Democrats, and the wounds of the Civil War still festered. So to say there was animosity between the two groups would be an understatement.

(Amazing isn't it. Even in the 1880's the RATS were nothing but a corrupt crime organization.)

30 posted on 08/20/2012 5:12:26 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: CedarDave

A recent proposal by the Greenies involves millions of acres of Western N Dakota, western S Dakota, eastern Montana & NE Wyoming.

They was a large “BISON RANGE’. That would endanger every cattle rancher in those millions of acres, since brucellosis is still prevalent in Bison & cattle herds which contrat it must be destroyed.

These PRIVATE cattle ranches will be put out of business by such a ‘BISON RANGE’.

See current copy of Range Magazine for article.


31 posted on 08/20/2012 10:34:51 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
Is that the 'buffalo commons' horsecrap again, or something new?

That garbage didn't fly last time they were out here, and it won't fly in the future.

32 posted on 08/21/2012 6:17:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: CedarDave; george76; jazusamo
Been out in the field and I miss everything.

I had no idea about this potential huge land grab to "save" an extirpated cat. Unfrickinbelievable!

Thanks for the pings, Cedar Dave and George!

Now I'm going to say it: If Obama wins in November, Arizona needs to consider prepping the paperwork for seccession.

Or there won't be any Arizona left. Remember the Parashant!

33 posted on 08/24/2012 7:34:39 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: ridesthemiles
Didn't know about this either. But it doesn't surprise me.

And by the way, I've only stumbled on Range Magazine a few times -- but it is the BEST magazine out there on issues involving land use in the West. I'm very impressed with it.

Hell, I just should subscribe to it.

34 posted on 08/24/2012 7:38:36 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: george76

If you want to be on or off the Agenda 21 ping list, please notify me by Freepmail. It is a relatively low volume list in which we have been exploring the UN Agenda21 and related topics. We have collected our studies with threads, links, and discussions on the Agenda 21 thread which can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738418/posts

NEW ACTION THREAD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2861644/posts

Post 128 of the Action Thread is a summary of the history of Agenda 21, “what they are doing”, “what to do about it” and a good bibliography for further reading.


35 posted on 08/25/2012 12:28:20 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: kingu

That sounds very good on paper. Here’s the problem: The Forest Service will move in, with banned to the city power equipment, and rip up the pipes. Then they’ll send the city two things. 1) A permanent refusal and 2) The bill for tearing up the pipes.


36 posted on 08/25/2012 12:54:38 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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