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State Senator Malcolm Smith: An Illegal Gun Should Cost You 8 Years In Prison. About That...(NY)
villagevoice.com ^ | 16 August, 2012 | James King

Posted on 08/17/2012 5:17:07 AM PDT by marktwain

As it currently stands, anyone caught with an illegal gun in New York is looking at a maximum of two years in prison. Two years, apparently, is chump change -- according to Democratic state Senator Malcolm Smith, anyway, who now wants to up the ante for those busted with less-than-legal firearms.

"We believe the message that that sends to those who have illegal guns is 'I can go away for a year, maybe two years. I'll come back on good behavior in a year and I have a badge of honor," Smith said at a press conference this afternoon.

If Smith has his way, anyone caught illegally possessing a gun would face a minimum sentence of five years in prison. The maximum sentence would be eight years.

"You get caught with your gun, you're gone," he continues. "You're not coming back in a year, six months, five months. By the time you come back, these kids here will have graduated from high school, maybe gone on to college."

Just for the record, Smith's plan would have landed former New York Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress -- who was busted with a kind of illegal gun -- behind bars for up to eight years (more on Plax below).

New York already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. But most of those laws are in regards to purchasing guns. Smith's law would apply to those who already have illegal firearms.

"This particular legislation is for those guns that are on the street that are just hanging out on the corner some place," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.villagevoice.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; constitution; democrats; govtabuse; liberalfascism; ny; rapeofliberty; tyranny
New York City already has the reputation of being one of the biggest scofflaws on the Constitution, and this rep wants to make it more so.

How hard is it to understand "Shall not be infringed"?

1 posted on 08/17/2012 5:17:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

A law and order guy, that’s good. I’m a law and order guy myself. I support extremely stiff penalties for anyone who violates the Constitution under color of authority, for example.


2 posted on 08/17/2012 5:22:27 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain
We need a law in Virginia that makes it a felony to agitate against Second Amendment rights.

Then, when this guy tries to drive down to Miami for the winter we bust him at the state line and imprison him.

3 posted on 08/17/2012 5:25:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Still Thinking

What did those poor guns do? They are the victims here!!


4 posted on 08/17/2012 5:25:34 AM PDT by grandpa jones (obama delenda est)
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To: marktwain

I wonder if NYC automatically adds 2 years (or if it were up to this guy, 8 years) to the sentences of people who commit, or threaten to commit, violent felonies with the aid of a firearm? I doubt it.

This is another law that will be used disproportionately against the law-abiding.


5 posted on 08/17/2012 5:38:05 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: marktwain

Why not just make NYC into a prison island, oh wait they did that in a movie.


6 posted on 08/17/2012 5:40:04 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Vote for Sarah Palin, she is the cure to the disease and infection of socialism.)
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To: marktwain

There is no such thing as an ‘illegal’ gun.


7 posted on 08/17/2012 5:48:21 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: marktwain

What, exactly, is an “Illegal gun ?”


8 posted on 08/17/2012 5:49:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Eye of Unk

snake pliskin?????

I thought he was dead...


9 posted on 08/17/2012 5:49:35 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: marktwain
"Illegal gun?"

What a fascist phrase!

I am never, never going back to New York. All my guns are "legal" because the 2nd Amendment protects my right to own and carry them.

10 posted on 08/17/2012 5:53:42 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
This is another law that will be used disproportionately against the law-abiding.

Exactly. This would not be used against the gang banger on the corner. This'll be used against the suburban family with Gran-Dad's unregistered WWI memorabilia. It is intended to put fear into otherwise law-abiding citizens and push for universal registration or face years in prison.

11 posted on 08/17/2012 5:58:37 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: marktwain

how about taking political action committees money under the table results in the needle?

That will never fly. That is why they want our guns.

Bastards.


12 posted on 08/17/2012 6:04:09 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: marktwain
minimum sentence of five years in prison. The maximum sentence would be eight years.
I think we should apply the KISS principle. Change the min/max sentence to 25 years, period.
Enough is enough.
13 posted on 08/17/2012 6:11:50 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: marktwain

NY
Hideous state.
Run by Manhattan and to hell with the rest.


14 posted on 08/17/2012 6:35:12 AM PDT by Flintlock (-THE TRUTH--It's the NEW hate speech.)
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To: marktwain

Someday libs will come to the realization that 2nd amendment infringement only gets people killed....Or maybe they already know that?


15 posted on 08/17/2012 6:39:34 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: marktwain

A good first step would be making going to prison so miserable that nobody would consider it a badge of honor.


16 posted on 08/17/2012 6:49:07 AM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (Liberals love to do what is "best" for you, even if it kills you.)
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To: marktwain
Interesting how we never hear how gun laws in leftist-lands are an onerous burden on the poor and are intended to suppress minority gun ownership.
17 posted on 08/17/2012 6:52:37 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Maybe they mean an “Undocumented” gun.


18 posted on 08/17/2012 6:55:21 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: marktwain
"This particular legislation is for those guns that are on the street that are just hanging out on the corner some place," he said.

Wow... these must be some new-fangled type of guns I've never heard of! What? To be out on the street and hanging out on corner somewhere? Those dang guns must be in cahoots with those wretched SUVs that are always on the loose running people over!
19 posted on 08/17/2012 7:20:00 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Still Thinking
Still Thinking mentions: "... stiff penalties for anyone who violates the Constitution ..."

I agree.

In a just world the subject of the article would be hanged as a counter-revolutionary; attempting to undermine the protections for which our Founders fought and died.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

In the land of firearm prohibition, the knife-wielder is king.

In the land of total disarmament, the 275 pound, six-foot five thug is king.

As others have stated, the only reason that someone would want to disarm you is so that they can do something to you that you would not permit if you had been armed.

20 posted on 08/17/2012 10:50:43 AM PDT by William Tell
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