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Why Ryan Terrifies The Left
American Spectator ^ | 8-14-12 | Jefferey Lord

Posted on 08/16/2012 5:53:15 PM PDT by Dysart

Paul Ryan terrifies the American Left.

Which precisely explains the tones of hysteria coming from the Obama White House.

The real question is why the Chicago Thugs have suffered such a public meltdown over Mitt Romney's choice of the young Wisconsin Congressman to be his vice-presidential running mate.

And there is an answer. Three specific answers, actually.

• Ronald Reagan: President Reagan today is an American hero. Poll after poll has Americans placing him in the pantheon of great American presidents, and occasionally at the top of the list.

The admiration for Reagan has become such a part of American historical bedrock that even President Obama and likeminded professional leftists have essentially given up the ghost. When they mention Reagan at all, it is generally to play a sly game of casting Reagan as a moderate, pretending to salute him while taking a shot at some Republican for not being more like Reagan. Obama played this game four times in one speech back in April, effusively praising Reagan while casting Mitt Romney as some sort of wild-eyed extremist.

No one is fooled.

Ronald Reagan was and remains the Left's worst nightmare.

Why?

Because it was Ronald Reagan who both understood conservative philosophy and was repeatedly turning it into effective policy. It was Reagan who began the massive historical deconstruction of a century's worth of the Left's ideas on everything from economics to national security -- repeatedly proving them as unworkable as they were dangerous. Not to mention that he trounced Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, and, through his vice president in 1988, Michael Dukakis. Three consecutive political landslides in which Reagan so changed America that by 1992 Bill Clinton ran as a "New Democrat" -- essentially portraying himself as Reagan-lite.

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Subtitle: "Reagan, Kemp, and Mark Levin: Natural Rights and a challenge to moral superiority."

I think we do see a swelling tide of panic this week in wild accusations and desperate fear-mongering. These are not tactics of a confident political campaign, and I include their propaganda branch in the media. The phony tax "controversy" has mostly fizzled and Mediscare has fallen and can't get up; they know Ryan will school Plugs and clarify the dismal fiscal implications of Obamacare in the debates, but they wanted to plant enough lies in the minds of the fearful, especially in advance of Ryan's swing through Florida.

I expect the next play will be dangling some sort of immigration red meat, with a strong Rubio answer on behalf of R-R to cut that off at the knees. I hear often Hispanics not of Cuban heritage don't like Rubio, or are even hostile, but he's likable and persuasive, generally, and I think a positive message will get through and beyond the scare tactics he'll surely take on. Not sure what they have left, but would take nothing off the table.

Audacious, immoral, and lawless political gangsters bent on one party totalitarian rule won't go down without a nasty fight. We'll see where they draw the line.

The juxtaposition of All-American Ryan's values of moral capitalism and Reagan legacy with this lot exposes them as the Un-American aliens they are. Fundamental transformations, indeed.

1 posted on 08/16/2012 5:53:26 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart
I was hoping for Rubio to be VP. But, I'm telling you; Paul Ryan is awesome. I love Paul Ryan. (Not in a gay sort of way....LOL.)
2 posted on 08/16/2012 6:00:17 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: Dysart

If Ryan was at the top of the ticket, we would be kicking Obama’s behind. If we want to win, flip the ticket.


3 posted on 08/16/2012 6:02:02 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Dysart

OUR RIGHTS ARE NATURAL RIGHTS FROM GOD AND THE WAY HE FASHIONED THE WORLD.


4 posted on 08/16/2012 6:04:26 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Dysart
"I think we do see a swelling tide of panic this week in wild accusations and desperate fear-mongering."

Well, from what I see from Rassmussen Reports, the GOP ought to be in panic-mode too. The candidates are more or less neck and neck in this race, Romney only very slightly leading.

The nightmare of another four years of Obama can't be dismissed just yet - jmho.

5 posted on 08/16/2012 6:14:16 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Linda Frances
If Ryan was at the top of the ticket, we would be kicking Obama’s behind. If we want to win, flip the ticket.

I understand- that also leaped to my mind right quick after he was announced.

I'd like play QB for the Dallas Cowboys, but we have to deal with things as they are...

6 posted on 08/16/2012 6:17:41 PM PDT by Dysart (Obama Faults Profit. Reject That.)
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To: Dysart
"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ... the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government, they should watch over it ... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." - James Madison

So-called "progressives" understand the "divided" part of Madison's cautionary words, but the rest of us seem to ignore the rest of Madison's statement.

Might it have something to do with our not having been "well-instructed" in the ideas of freedom?

Edmund Burke, in his 1775 "Speech on Conciliation," observed the following "spirit" in the founding generations:

"Permit me, Sir, to add another circumstance in our colonies, which contributes no mean part towards the growth and effect of this untractable spirit. I mean their education. In no country perhaps in the world is the law so general a study. The profession itself is numerous and powerful; and in most provinces it takes the lead. The greater number of the deputies sent to the congress were lawyers. But all who read, and most do read, endeavour to obtain some smattering in that science. I have been told by an eminent bookseller, that in no branch of his business, after tracts of popular devotion, were so many books as those on the law exported to the plantations. The colonists have now fallen into the way of printing them for their own use. I hear that they have sold nearly as many of Blackstone's Commentaries in America as in England. General Gage marks out this disposition very particularly in a letter on your table. He states, that all the people in his government are lawyers, or smatterers in law; and that in Boston they have been enabled, by successful chicane, wholly to evade many parts of one of your capital penal constitutions. The smartness of debate will say, that this knowledge ought to teach them more clearly the rights of legislature, their obligations to obedience, and the penalties of rebellion. All this is mighty well. But my honourable and learned friend on the floor, who condescends to mark what I say for animadversion, will disdain that ground. He has heard, as well as I, that when great honours and great emoluments do not win over this knowledge to the service of the state, it is a formidable adversary to government. If the spirit be not tamed and broken by these happy methods, it is stubborn and litigious. Abeunt studia in mores. This study renders men acute, inquisitive, dexterous, prompt in attack, ready in defence, full of resources. In other countries, the people, more simple, and of a less mercurial cast, judge of an ill principle in government only by an actual grievance; here they anticipate the evil, and judge of the pressure of the grievance by the badness of the principle. They augur misgovernment at a distance; and snuff the approach of tyranny in every tainted breeze." (Underlining added for emphasis)

Burke also declared to the Parliament that what he called the colonists' "fierce spirit of liberty" also must be attributed to their "religion," "under a variety of denominations agreeing in nothing but in the communion of the spirit of liberty."

In that great 1775 Speech to the British Parliament about the American colonies, Burke also observed and carefully documented the great and astounding economic progress which had already occurred in America, where the colonists went about their productive enterprises despite the burdens of King George. Burke pointed out that the Old World was feeding from the breast of the New--and that was before the 1776 Declaration and 1787 Constitution which further enhanced the "spirit of liberty" in that new and sovereign nation.

7 posted on 08/16/2012 6:18:50 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Linda Frances

I agree. I wish Ryan were at the top of the ticket, but like it or not Romney has earned his spot at the top. I respect him for picking Ryan. I want them to win. Four more years of Obama scuttling America is not okay with me. Let reality sink in:Romney is the nominee. Anyone who is still in the “I Won’t Vote for Romney Club” had better rename their club the “I’m Helping Obama Get Re-elected Club.”


8 posted on 08/16/2012 6:21:14 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: Linda Frances

Nope. Perfect as is. The purpose of a VP is insurance. Think Obama is an incompetent fool? Kill him and get Biden. Think GW is too far right? Kill him and get Dick Cheney, the list goes on. Keep your scariest card in the hole.


9 posted on 08/16/2012 6:21:38 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa
" I love Paul Ryan. (Not in a gay sort of way....LOL.)"

Not that there's anything wrong with that.... :)

10 posted on 08/16/2012 6:21:58 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Linda Frances

Repeat of 2008 only worse.


11 posted on 08/16/2012 6:22:53 PM PDT by yield 2 the right (Staying Home for 2012: Try Again In 2016.)
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To: Linda Frances

It won’t happen, Linda, but I certainly understand the sentiment. Most of us felt the same way in ‘08, didn’t we... :)


12 posted on 08/16/2012 6:23:13 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Ron C.
The nightmare of another four years of Obama can't be dismissed just yet - jmho.

To be clear, in order to dismiss it I'd have to exclude that ugly scenario. I have not. It's dicey.

13 posted on 08/16/2012 6:23:34 PM PDT by Dysart (Obama Faults Profit. Reject That.)
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To: Linda Frances
If Ryan was at the top of the ticket, we would be kicking Obama’s behind. If we want to win, flip the ticket.

I hear that remark bandied about all the time. If only we had so-and-so as a candidate, why we'd really be crushing Obama right now.

Insert any candidate you want at the top of the GOP ticket and I daresay that none of them would be doing any better in the polls than Romney is doing right now. In fact, the more right-wing the candidate is, the worse we would be doing. It pains me to say that because I am a a hardline conservative.

But it's true. If Newt Gingrich or Sarah Palin was on top of the ticket, we'd probably be ten points behind right now instead of dead even or a point or two either way. That's not to say that Palin or Gingrich wouldn't win in November, but they certainly wouldn't be flying high right now. That's because Obama would still be mired in the 44-46% range. The only difference is that Palin or Gingrich would be sitting in the mid-30s and the undecideds would be 20% plus.

Gingrich and Palin would still need to win the votes of the undecideds, just as Reagan had to do in 1980. For those who remember 1980, it wasn't until the final weeks of the election cycle that Reagan started to surge. This was because the American people who consider themselves independents got a good look at Reagan in his convention speech and his debate with Carter and decided that even though they might not agree with all of Reagan's policies, that he was the man for the job.

With Romney, much of this squishy middle has already decided that Romney would be an acceptable alternative to Obama which is why he is running close to dead-even or likely even a few points ahead at this juncture. That's why we only have about 10% undecided at this time because many independents have already settled on Romney as a viable alternative to Obama.

Conservatives usually win elections but they have to work harder at it. Still, Romney is going to have to give the speech of his life at the upcoming convention and perform well in the debates. I think by Labor Day, Romney/Ryan will be close to a ten point lead.

14 posted on 08/16/2012 6:26:01 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: When do we get liberated?
The other way to think of the VP is as the on deck batter.

Once the current batter is done, the VP is the next up to the plate. One of the big knocks on Bush was by choosing Cheney he left the GOP win no on deck batter. Cheney age and health, plus his lack of interest in the job, meant we had no on deck leader once Bush was done.

Ryan is Romney's IOU to the conservative movement.

15 posted on 08/16/2012 6:27:20 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Linda Frances

The irony is that this ticket is a reverse of Reagan / Bush I.

This is assuming a lot: If we can get through 2 terms of Romney (with Ryan and the Tea Party keeping Mitt from straying off the reservation), then 2 terms of Ryan could be a fantastic bookend to the 1980’s Reagan revolution.


16 posted on 08/16/2012 6:31:32 PM PDT by TomT in NJ
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To: MNJohnnie
Ryan is Romney's IOU to the conservative movement.

Now THAT is a great way to put it. Thanks. :)

17 posted on 08/16/2012 6:32:26 PM PDT by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: Ron C.

when you’re going to rig an election... public expectations must be for a close race, especially if you’re rigging for an extremely bad candidate


18 posted on 08/16/2012 6:44:03 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SamAdams76
I disagree. You cant win an election without your base. Romney's socialist lite history shows me that he is not the right man for the job. As a Conservative who happens to be registered as Republican, I am one of the base who is sick and tired of second fiddle.

In fact, I question if 4 years of an opposed Obama would be worse than 8 years of an unopposed Romney. Looks about the same to me and since neither is acceptable to me, and since the GOP has shown that they do NOT want to be a party of conservatives, I and along with a few million others will be voting for someone else at the top of the ticket.

Regan rallied the base and had a motivated donation and an army of volunteers. Romney ... not so much. The motivation is anti-Obama not pro-Romney. Regan showed us that when we have a conservative at the TOP of the ticket, we win.

19 posted on 08/16/2012 6:44:03 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Ron C.
I disagree! The race is more and more out of Obama’s reach every day. The gaffes and panic is palpable on the Left.

They have in Romney a Man that has not one personal Blemish. His wife, kids and himself have a stellar record of being decent people. He has no scandals of a personal nature. His PERSONAL morality is only over shadowed by his VP’s Personal morality. What Romney lacks in public sector integrity; IE Not So Conservative, his pick of Ryan shows he is going boldly conservative.

Obama hasn't polled above 50% in months and months and the economy is worsening.

Since May Romney has been outspent by Obama 3 to one with Obama spending more than $300. mil VS less than Romney on adds.

Meanwhile, MANY, MANY States that Obama carried in 08 are lost to him now. If the election where held today Romeny would win. By Nov he may win in a landslide.

ALSO::::: ALL the NEW Voter ID laws have been upheld. PA’ was JUST upheld and that brings the margin of Fraud to a much lower level.

20 posted on 08/16/2012 6:44:03 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: loveliberty2
Bringing out Madison and Burke always illuminating in reinforcing principles of liberty and economic freedom. Paul Ryan is a solid Burkeian.

So-called "progressives" understand the "divided" part of Madison's cautionary words, but the rest of us seem to ignore the rest of Madison's statement.

Might it have something to do with our not having been "well-instructed" in the ideas of freedom?

I ran across a poll today revealing that some 60-70% of them asked gave Obama high marks on education. Isn't that ironic, sad? To be fair, though, and I'm always fair to him, that problem has its origins decades before his reign.

21 posted on 08/16/2012 6:46:21 PM PDT by Dysart (Obama Faults Profit. Reject That.)
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To: TomT in NJ

I’ve been thinking the same thing. From here, 16 years of Republican presidents. And the irony that Obama — by his manifest failures — will have ushered in a new conservative renaissance.


22 posted on 08/16/2012 6:49:17 PM PDT by vekzen
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To: Dysart
it's not hard to figure out, real men always do...
23 posted on 08/16/2012 6:49:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Dysart

You know...I just heard it again. “If you vote for Romney and Ryan, people are gonna die in the United States.”

Well, frikkin’ duh. I would be extremely surprised if people STOPPED dying in the United States. People in Canada and every other country in the world are gonna die because that’s a fact of life.
What we DON’T need is people being murdered by the hundreds, thousands, and millions because obama supports the holocaust of innocent unborns no matter where or when.
What we DON’T need are oscama-backed muslims murdering hundreds and thousands of people who don’t howl at the crescent moon.
What we DON’T need is a panel of obamacare leftist toadies deciding whether you deserve to live or die.
ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.


24 posted on 08/16/2012 6:51:23 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: When do we get liberated?

“Nope. Perfect as is. “

Agreed. I also would have rather had Cheney for pres instead of Bush.... I always thought Cheney was more intelligent and articulate. I think Ryan like Cheney will do the heavy lifting for the conservatives while Romney will provide political leadership and administrative smarts.

The best part here is that we have a “real” conservative, that is smart and articulate, primed for President that is young and doesn’t have a bad ticker.

Hopefully the Republicans will effect real change this time, and drive us to prosperity and ignore the wacko media.


25 posted on 08/16/2012 7:00:42 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: Dysart

Remember the dems’ claims to be “licking their chops” at the prospect of a Ryan selection for VP? They were hoping Romney would be cowed into selecting some space occupier like Rob Portman (whom they’d savage anyway). Fortunately, Romney called their bluff with the selection of the highly intelligent Ryan, who is goading them into the open in a debate about Medicare and the budget...something the libs fear even more than losing access to online porn.

...and now the dems are sh*tting all over themselves wondering what to do, thus the claim by that Toure punkass of “niggerization” of obama (whatever that happens to mean) by Romney.


26 posted on 08/16/2012 7:33:12 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: Dysart; Jim from C-Town

Excellent article, Dysart. I read it last night and it struck a few chords with me. Despite the extreme pessimism of some Freepers who still haven’t come to terms with Romney’s pending nomination, I fully expect a Romney-Ryan landslide in November. I also expect a wave of Democrat defections when Obama’s defeat becomes obvious, but I was stunned to see Doug Wilder become the first one today - and it’s only August!


27 posted on 08/16/2012 7:36:02 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Linda Frances
If Ryan was at the top of the ticket, we would be kicking Obama’s behind. If we want to win, flip the ticket.

If Ryan was at the top of the ticket, there is no way he would have selected Romney as a running mate.
28 posted on 08/16/2012 7:48:50 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: prairiebreeze

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29 posted on 08/16/2012 7:56:09 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dysart
The New York Times yesterday predictably branded Paul Ryan as -- really -- "the most extreme of vice-presidential possibilities." (Glad to know Sarah Palin is now a moderate in the eyes of the Times. Congratulations Governor Palin. You have officially "evolved.")

LOL - Thanks for posting this - Sarah will be pleased she's 'grown'...

30 posted on 08/16/2012 7:57:45 PM PDT by GOPJ (“Family: One of God’s masterpieces.” sign at Chris McMurray's bakery - Crumb and Get It)
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To: Ron C.

Lots of people are afraid of telling pollsters the truth. So many of those ‘pollsters’ are from the party -doing push/pull type polling - and they’re gonna ‘get you’ if you’re a dem and you answer wrong. Gotta love the party of intimidation. My guess is a lot more people will vote Republican than will say they vote Republican.


31 posted on 08/16/2012 8:01:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (“Family: One of God’s masterpieces.” sign at Chris McMurray's bakery - Crumb and Get It)
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To: mike_9958
I think Ryan like Cheney will do the heavy lifting for the conservatives while Romney will provide political leadership and administrative smarts.

Romney is accustomed to delegating heavily and very comfortable with it. I don't expect that to change, so let's look forward to Ryan having a major role, even if it's behind the scenes. He's too energetic and valuable to conservative and free market ideals to not be fully leveraged.

32 posted on 08/16/2012 8:20:56 PM PDT by Dysart (Obama Faults Profit. Reject That.)
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To: GOPJ

You betcha. I liked that, too.


33 posted on 08/16/2012 8:22:48 PM PDT by Dysart (Obama Faults Profit. Reject That.)
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To: When do we get liberated?
Nope. Perfect as is. The purpose of a VP is insurance. Think Obama is an incompetent fool? Kill him and get Biden. Think GW is too far right? Kill him and get Dick Cheney, the list goes on. Keep your scariest card in the hole.

That concept was explicitly played by the Clinton Administration in regards Gore and his idiocy...though there is now a horde that has forgotten and follows Gore as though he is some sort of sage.

34 posted on 08/16/2012 8:27:33 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Linda Frances

Damn fine ideA Linda
Damn fine


35 posted on 08/16/2012 8:30:38 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: taxcontrol
Romney will get the GOP base. Don't worry about that. Just like Obama will get his Democrat base. Yes, there's a few loudmouths that stamp their feet and vow not to vote for Romney because he's not a pure conservative but the majority of conservatives will pull the lever for Romney because unlike in say 1992, there is no credible third party alternative and they sure aren't going to vote for Obama.

So people can preen and strut about this board stating that they aren't going to vote for Romney no way no how and I say let them be loud and proud about it. But the majority of these folks are going to quietly pull the lever for Romney once they get behind that curtain. That's okay, they don't have to admit it here.

The fight is always for the squishy middle - about 15-20% of the vote and in presidential contests, the fight comes down to a handful of battleground states like Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Iowa and a few others. The results in 35-40 of our states are pretty much determined already.

36 posted on 08/16/2012 8:33:46 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: MestaMachine
You know...I just heard it again. “If you vote for Romney and Ryan, people are gonna die in the United States.”

As for things like murders, it took many more years of war in two countries to equate to the cost in lives of electing Dinkins as the Mayor of NYC.

37 posted on 08/16/2012 8:34:15 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Dysart
One problem with Ryan is that he voted for the auto bailout. It's overt pandering to all the welfare queen unionists that live in the Rust Belt. A true conservative doesn't back down to the threats of the liberals, he laughs at them and sticks to his convictions.
38 posted on 08/16/2012 8:36:16 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (Liberals will kill your family if they are keeping a Democrat from a Congressional seat)
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To: SamAdams76
I totally disagree with you. I could give you names of dozens of people, mainly people I go to church with, bible studies and family....who will not vote for Romney at all. If I know that many people, think of all the others out there who won't vote for him. The internet gives people the ability to look for themselves what a candidate really did and if what he is saying is true. People know romney's a liberal and will act like one, just like he did before.The sad part is the gop knows this also, that is why he picked Ryan. Romney choosing Ryan was no sacrifice like many make it out to be. Romney knows he's in trouble and is "using" Ryan for his conservative face and character because he has none of his own. Ryan will be "used" to try and help romney win, then placed on a shelf, only to be taken down for funerals. The GOP thought true conservatives would forgive them and come home like many did when Sarah was picked. This time will be worse & don't blame the people who did NOT cheat or force a liberal on us. Blame those who did.

I will not vote for Romney if he is the top of the ticket, but at least I am voting the rest of the ballot. A lot of these people are so disgusted with the gops hard left move and the cheating going on in the primary, they have become disillusioned and say they are not voting at all and that both parties are corrupt. The gop has finally pushed people too far.

The thought of romney having 8 years re-enforces my choice not to vote for him. I'm changing to independent because the gop has become so corrupt. Sometimes I wish I had not gotten so involved in the details of the campaigns, then I would be clueless like everyone else. This election is just like McCain/Palin, only this time many conservatives have had enough of the gop. You think they would have learned. Cheaters never win and we will all suffer for it. It's common knowledge that it was Romney who had his people destroy Sarah in 2008. If Romney had not done that, I think McCain would be in office, but Romney knew he could not run in 2012 if McCain/Sarah won. It was all about him.

I worked the Santorum campaign & I believe he would have won if it wasn't for the cheating, fixing states...and Romney's money, but only God knows for sure. That is one of the reasons the gop pushed him. Romney had to cheat in several states to get where he is. That is just like Obama. I won't have any part in electing someone who does what he did to win. Besides that, to me he is no different than Obama. Pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage/adoption, believes in global warming.....Evil.

You have no way of knowing what would have happened if someone else won the primary, just like the rest of us.

39 posted on 08/16/2012 8:40:05 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: EricT.

Many conservatives don’t take IOU’s. When they see there is cheating going on on the table, they leave, just like many have and are.


40 posted on 08/16/2012 8:42:07 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Dysart

For those reading the entire article, it is worth noting the comment about the reaction to Ryan from “The Chicago Tribune.”

David Axelrod formerly worked at the Tribune before he left to become a political campaign consultant. He has plenty of access at the Tribune Tower and has planted numerous stories there over the years. The attacks against Blair Hull and Jack Ryan (two of Obama’s US Senate opponents) were initiated at the Tribune.

In its prime, “The Chicago Tribune” was a conservative Republican sheet. Now, it is a liberal rag that is a big part of the problem in Illinois.


41 posted on 08/16/2012 8:45:05 PM PDT by PBRCat
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To: Linda Frances

Well we obviously must run in different circles because outside FR, everybody I run into (that isn’t a hopeless Democrat) is okay with Romney/Ryan. Maybe not thrilled but okay. We all wish for another Ronald Reagan but we can’t be Linus in the pumpkin patch, just sitting around waiting for his return. We have to make the best of what we have before us. If Reagan II was on the ballot, I’d definitely vote for him over Romney but that’s not going to happen this go-around.


42 posted on 08/16/2012 8:53:07 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Dysart
Here's the thing that HAS to scare the Obama campaign to no end: Ryan was one of the brightest staffers on the Empower America lobbying group when Steve Forbes as running the organization in 1995. As such, Ryan may have helped Forbes craft the flat-rate no-loophole income tax overhaul that Forbes proposed in 1996.

That tells me I wouldn't be surprised that within two weeks the Romney/Ryan campaign will announce the most radical overhaul of the income tax code since the passage of the 16th Amendment. And that right there will be the final coffin for the Obama campaign, because you know Obama would never support such a radical, but very common sense, income tax overhaul.

43 posted on 08/16/2012 9:06:57 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: SamAdams76

I’d be happy with anyone who is not pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage/adoption, anti-gun......and who has enough intregrity not to cheat. I don’t think that is asking for a lot.


44 posted on 08/16/2012 9:09:00 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Linda Frances

So True!!!! Flip the ticket!!!


45 posted on 08/16/2012 9:10:05 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Dysart

He can out talk them and influence people, that’s why.


46 posted on 08/16/2012 11:30:10 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Ron C.
And yet -- and yet -- most of the polls overweight Democrats between +5% and +13%.

And Obaama has spent $100 million trashing Romney, while Romney hasn't begun with the ads.

And still Romney is slightly in the lead.

With an economy in the crapper, no foreign policy except surrender, the Middle East and the Euro about to melt down, which always inspires the people's willingness to trust an Affirmative Action Marxist placeholder over real Americans who sure as hell "*did* build that."

Sell your bedwetting somewhere else.

Cheers!

47 posted on 08/17/2012 12:21:53 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Dysart
From the article:
This, mind you, was par for the course as liberals of the day dealt with Ronald Reagan. As one liberal media critic wrote in the day, the battle was between "FDR versus Darwin" -- almost exactly the lame line being advanced today by Obama and company.
FDR versus Darwin??? That media critic all-but sent out an engraved invitation for this snark:
  "Does this mean FDR was a creationist?"

Some time ago, Gary North wrote a book entitled Conspiracy In Philadelphia. My own political beliefs are far removed from Dr. North's brand of Christian Reconstructionism, but his book makes some important and neglected points. To wit:
a) The Constitution was essentially Deist;
b) Its philosophical backbone was Newtonian mechanics.

Once Darwinism replaced Newtonism as the thinking man's status-symbol system, the Constitution began eroding. The philosophical backbone behind Roosevelt's "living Constitution" is 100% Darwinism.

48 posted on 08/17/2012 12:43:05 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: taxcontrol
"You cant win an election without your base. Romney's socialist lite history shows me that he is not the right man for the job.

The addition of Ryan has solidified the base and while there will always be those who disagree, Romney has done what was needed to bring home the Conservative voter.

49 posted on 08/17/2012 2:29:04 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Combat_Liberalism
I agree. I wish Ryan were at the top of the ticket, but like it or not Romney has earned his spot at the top. I respect him for picking Ryan. I want them to win. Four more years of Obama scuttling America is not okay with me. Let reality sink in:Romney is the nominee. Anyone who is still in the “I Won’t Vote for Romney Club” had better rename their club the “I’m Helping Obama Get Re-elected Club.”

Good post. I believe that those who are now "anybody-but-Romney" folks, and say they support Ryan, but still won't vote for Romney, would not vote for Ryan even if Romney was second fiddle on the ticket because ...Romney was on the ticket.

FR used to be a place when many savvy folks would display rational thought and the ability to identify and rank enemies of Freedom - then go after the greatest threat first. These days they go after the guy who they don't consider to be Christian and pave the way for the guy that seems to already carry Satan's mark. JR has a tagline saying something about opposing tyrants is obedience to God. In the Bible I read, Jesus said "resist not evil" and I'm assuming it's because it is His job. I'm voting for the crew that is most likely to give America some breathing room as a nation.

50 posted on 08/17/2012 3:56:41 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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