[MamaTexan]

they tend to be liberal except for economics and guns, and a few other things, but usually, amazingly hostile to true, complete, conservatism.

Oh, BS! I was conservative probably before you were even born.

I've seen a LOT of folks (even around here) that are scared sh@itless when faced with the precept of pure, unbridled Liberty, so don't you dare presume to speak for me.

It's not about the 'drugs' ansell2 - it's about the simple question of WHO owns your body.....you or government?

[Turbo Pig]

are scared sh@itless when faced with the precept of pure, unbridled Liberty,

FWIW, prue unbridled liberty is called anarchy, which has never really worked out well through out history :-).

it's about the simple question of WHO owns your body.....you or government?

There's a third choice there, if one is willing to accept it. Of course, accepting that, one is governed by ideas and mores that go contrary to "pure, unbridled liberty", and actually hold one to a set of standards that one couldn't possibly measure up to, without a little help...well, OK, a whole lot of help.

That doesn't change your proposition, it just adds an extra layer of complexity.

[ansel12]

Oh, BS! I was conservative probably before you were even born.

I guess you are one of those old fashioned, middle American conservatives that were pushing for drugs for the kids in the 1960s, I don't recall meeting any of you, basically because they didn't exist, but I sure met a mass of left wing dope heads, and lefty politicians that loved the idea.

Were you promoting drug use in the 1960s?