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Obama is ready to sign up immigrants--Romney’s hands are tied on issue
washingtontimes ^ | August 14, 2012 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 08/15/2012 8:36:59 AM PDT by kcvl

More than 1.7 million illegal immigrants could become eligible for tentative legal status Wednesday when President Obama’s non-deportation policy goes into effect, and after initial fears that the program would backfire, immigrant advocates are urging young immigrants to sign up.

Activists say the policy is the biggest change on immigration in decades, and it has roiled the political landscape, solidifying Mr. Obama’s support among Hispanics and leaving presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney struggling to say what he would do.

On Tuesday, the Obama administration laid out final details, including relaxed education standards that set a low bar.

Under the rules, illegal immigrants in job training or who have enrolled in a GED course are eligible — a lesser requirement than obtaining a high school diploma or equivalency certificate.

The government begins taking applications Wednesday, and immigrant rights groups and members of Congress from both parties have scheduled legal clinics across the country to help determine whether immigrants qualify and to aid them in filling out the forms

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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1 posted on 08/15/2012 8:37:02 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

First thing this morning I saw a clip on the news showing hundreds of illegals lined up around the block outside a consulate somewhere for their amnesty.

Aside from that, the media is pretty quiet on the issue.


2 posted on 08/15/2012 8:39:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: kcvl
The policy halts deportations for illegal immigrants not above the age of 30 who were brought to the U.S. before age 16, who don’t have a major criminal record, and who can show they have been in the country studying or in job training.

The political agenda – fool Hispanics into believing amnesty is coming so they vote for the Obomination.
3 posted on 08/15/2012 8:42:54 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: cripplecreek
Aside from that, the media is pretty quiet on the issue. I just went to the cnn and msnbc website....nothing about this. Interesting how quite the left is on this so far.
4 posted on 08/15/2012 8:45:39 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: ColdOne

The consulates are probably registering them to vote too.


5 posted on 08/15/2012 8:47:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Very interesting article. Yesterday I was going by the Portland, Maine Soup Kitchen / Homeless Community Center. This center is suppose to help the homeless find jobs and eventually get a place to live and be on their own. I saw a HUGE group of latinos going inside. (they are NOT homeless).

The shelter worker, she held the door open for them as they entered. In her arms were booklets titled “Su Voto y Sus Derechos” (your vote and your rights).

If that was not bad enough, a local streetman approached the woman and asked her if she would help him with his application for employment. She told him “Not today, I’m busy with a group. Come back tomorrow”.


6 posted on 08/15/2012 8:48:05 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: cripplecreek

Illegal immigrants line up at consulates across country for ‘DREAM’-er applications

Young illegal immigrants are lining up by the thousands at consulates across the country to take advantage of the Obama administration program allowing them to apply for a two-year reprieve from deportation.

As many as 1.8 million undocumented immigrants could be eligible for the program, which kicked off Wednesday. Under the new rules, applicants can fill out a six-page form, pay a $465 fee and submit documents proving their identity in order to qualify.

Immigration officials say the documents will be closely scrutinized, given the potential for fraud, but there is no uniform standard. Applicants are supposed to show they arrived in the U.S. before they were 16, and that they’re enrolled in school or vocational training, or have a high school degree.

The lines began forming on Tuesday, as illegal immigrants tried to get a leg up in seeking their passport applications.

“We are waiting for our passports. We want to get our passport because Obama might be asking for them,” applicant Kristi Alarcon told MyFoxHouston, as she stood in line outside Houston’s Mexican consulate.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/15/illegal-immigrants-line-up-at-consulates-across-country-for-dream-er/


7 posted on 08/15/2012 8:49:34 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Paging John Boehner, paging John Boehner!


8 posted on 08/15/2012 8:50:05 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: chaos_5

Some, including House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, have called the policy backdoor amnesty and said they worry about fraud.

“While potentially millions of illegal immigrants will be permitted to compete with American workers for scarce jobs, there seems to be little if any mechanism in place for vetting fraudulent applications and documentation submitted by illegal immigrants,” Smith said Tuesday.


9 posted on 08/15/2012 8:51:01 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I would not doubt that pre-printed ballots for Nov. elections are included in their amnesty documents


10 posted on 08/15/2012 8:51:01 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: kcvl

Sorry it should not be legal what Obama did. If the GOP and Conservatives let him get away with it they deserve what’s coming in November.


11 posted on 08/15/2012 8:52:07 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: kcvl

Is this a DAMNED EXECUTIVE ORDER??????? Did I miss this legislation?


12 posted on 08/15/2012 8:52:32 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: kcvl
Under the rules, illegal immigrants in job training or who have enrolled in a GED course are eligible — a lesser requirement than obtaining a high school diploma or equivalency certificate.

What happened to the "class valedictorian" image that was used to sell the program?

Everything he does is a "bait and switch" scam.

13 posted on 08/15/2012 8:55:24 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: kcvl

HEY....it worked for the ROMANS....call me maybe....


14 posted on 08/15/2012 8:56:08 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: kcvl
If Romney/Ryan does not win the Presidency, civil war will happen. Communism will never live.
15 posted on 08/15/2012 8:58:50 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: kcvl
I can see the process now…

ICE: So Mr. Pedro, how old where you when you came to the US?
Pedro: Si
ICE: OK, and are you under 30 years old?
Pedro: Si
ICE: Are you currently enrolled in taxpayer funded educational program?
Pedro: Si
ICE: Great! You are fully qualified!
Pedro: Si
ICE: Excuse me, Mr. Pedro, but you appear to be standing in a puddle of water and your shoes are wet. Do you mind telling the janitor to mop that up on your way out?
Pedro: Si

16 posted on 08/15/2012 8:58:57 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: kcvl

“More than 1.7 million illegal immigrants could become eligible for tentative legal status Wednesday”

But.. but.. I thought that a GOP congress could keep Obama in ‘check’. /s


17 posted on 08/15/2012 9:09:28 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: kcvl

So much for the rule of law.

This is a foreign invasion of the United States, aided by traitors in the Obama administration. I can’t think of any more accurate way to describe it.


18 posted on 08/15/2012 9:10:57 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Logical me

You’;e damn right...Communism will not live in the United States while people are free.


19 posted on 08/15/2012 9:20:29 AM PDT by itssme
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20 posted on 08/15/2012 9:23:47 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: kcvl
1.7 million Democrat voters, just in time for the Nov. 2012 Election.

Just a coincidence, of course.

21 posted on 08/15/2012 9:29:47 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: cripplecreek

” illegal immigrants in job training or who have enrolled in a GED course are eligible”

If you are an illegal immigrant who is under 30 and is in some kind of training then we welcome you with open arms! Obama applies this to what 2M of these types of folks and is considered a hero. While Bush is derided for not finding 20 specific illegal immigrants that were taking vocational training at flight schools.

The libtards are a clear danger to America!


22 posted on 08/15/2012 9:32:28 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: kcvl
Romney should turn this around on Obama by saying he understands the plight if the illegal aliens BUT, they are taking 1.2 million jobs away from Americans and just keep pounding Obama with that jobs lost scenario.
23 posted on 08/15/2012 9:34:44 AM PDT by Old Badger (Don't bother me! I still like Palin because she will tell like it is! (Newt too!))
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To: tsowellfan

” Paging John Boehner, paging John Boehner!”

Not now! Can’t you see the man is busy hiding under his desk?


24 posted on 08/15/2012 9:38:31 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Old Badger

” BUT, they are taking 1.2 million jobs away from Americans”

Under obama.....what jobs? What they are taking away are taxpayer dollars through welfare and other social programs.


25 posted on 08/15/2012 9:41:33 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Why ARE WE WORKING AND PAYING TAXES TO GET F*CKED LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!

What is the current law and doesn’t the Executive branch have to abide by it?

If members of the executive choose to openly encourage activities that run counter to existing law, aren’t they all indictable?

Can anybody cite the actual law ... I would love to bring this to a conservative federal judge that lives in our town and ask her what could be done to convene a grand jury.

We need to hold these D*CKHEADS accountable.

I HATE THIS SH*T!!!!


26 posted on 08/15/2012 9:43:23 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: traditional1

Romney can do this: “When I’m elected, if you’ve been in prison more than ten years, have a good record, pledge to go school and not commit crimes, I’ll release you.”

It’s really about the equivalent of what Owebama is doing.


27 posted on 08/15/2012 9:44:59 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: kcvl; Liz; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; mkjessup; org.whodat; ...
RE :”Key questions remain, including whether those who qualify for the federal program also will be eligible for driver’s licenses or in-state tuition at colleges and universities in states where illegal immigrants are currently denied those benefits.
Ms. Gutierrez said in Maryland, a work permit and the Social Security number that comes with it are enough to prove legal residency, which should make them eligible for licenses.
The reverberations are being felt well outside the immigrant community.
Hispanic voters rallied to Mr. Obama’s side after his June announcement, and continue to give him high favor-ability ratings.
Mr. Romney, meanwhile, has steadfastly refused to say whether he would keep the policy in place if he wins the White House.

What is really bad is that there appears to be NO downside for Obama in doing this, Romney doesn't want to ‘offend’ Hispanics now that he won the primary.

As time goes on if any of these people commit crimes it could backfire on Obama, that is why he did it now instead of a year ago :to maximize the positive and minimize the negative. By the time that happens the election will probably be over.

28 posted on 08/15/2012 9:45:26 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: cripplecreek

You know they are, if not at some point during the process they will be registered then they give the applicant registrations for the parents at home. So upsetting.


29 posted on 08/15/2012 9:46:30 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: sickoflibs
If they can apply for driver's licenses, they must be offered the opportunity to register to vote, and their status as potential voters may NOT be challenged.
30 posted on 08/15/2012 9:55:10 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: tsowellfan

Boehner won’t do anything unless Romney and/or the GOP-e tell him to do it. RINOs are ruling the roost right now.

We have two political parties that want the illegals to be made legal. There is not enough incentive for Congress to stop Obama, if they won’t even act for their own personal political preservation. And just like he did with the subject of eating at Chick-fil-a, the presumptive party leader remains silent.


31 posted on 08/15/2012 10:01:25 AM PDT by Waryone (Definition of insane: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: chaos_5
The political agenda – fool Hispanics into believing amnesty is coming so they vote for the Obomination.

Once he has their votes, he'll have more slaves to add to the plantation.

And he'll have Hispanic and black fighting one another like he's tried to do with whites and blacks.

0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer

FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF

YOU GET ONE CHOICE

CHOOSE WISELY

32 posted on 08/15/2012 10:03:45 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF YOU GET ONE CHOICE CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: lowbridge
Granted ..... throw that into the mix too.
33 posted on 08/15/2012 10:05:58 AM PDT by Old Badger (Don't bother me! I still like Palin because she will tell like it is! (Newt too!))
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To: kcvl

It would see to me that since this was done by executive orders that Romney’s hand will not be tied after January and will have a nice data base to work with. Ooops—Romney loves ILLEGALS, too.


34 posted on 08/15/2012 10:07:05 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: cripplecreek
First thing this morning I saw a clip on the news showing hundreds of illegals lined up around the block outside a consulate somewhere for their amnesty.

Our local tv evening news on Monday did a segment on and showing illegals registering for amnesty. Imagine that, just in time for November elections.

35 posted on 08/15/2012 10:08:38 AM PDT by bgill
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I don’t mean to disparage your optimism but do we really have a choice? It seems to me that it doesn’t much matter who’s in the White House. Reagan did it, Bush tried too, and now Obomination is just backdooring it. The rats in government just seem to have a way of getting whatever the heck they want – citizens be dammed.


36 posted on 08/15/2012 10:18:42 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: cripplecreek

I think because they know (or assume) most Americans are against this.


37 posted on 08/15/2012 10:24:56 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: cripplecreek

“The consulates are probably registering them to vote too.”

Winner, winner chicken dinner!


38 posted on 08/15/2012 10:24:56 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: kcvl

Spose the kenyan will simply decree citizenship for all illegals who have signed up for his amnesty in time for the election? I won’t be even a tad surprised when it happens and I bet the Republicans will scream “UNFAIR” and won’t do anything useful about it. Of course the addition to the voting rolls won’t be as serious to the vote as it might appear because many of these illegals have been voting already,


39 posted on 08/15/2012 10:35:17 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: kcvl

Imagine, another 4 years of Obama.

Imagine, Pelosi as Speaker of the House, again.

Imagine, our country as we know it completely destroyed, from within.

Imagine, you have lost everything, and there is no longer a way to get any of it back.

Imagine, democrat rule for the rest of your life.

Remember, we now have the most ignorant electorate in the history of American elections. I believe we have the most corrupt government and media our country has ever seen.

“Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again.” ~ Ronald Reagan, from his first inaugural speech as governor of California, January 5, 1967

Ronald Reagan’s warning about losing our freedoms echoes down through a generation of lost momentum and squandered opportunity.

IMAGINE....


40 posted on 08/15/2012 10:38:18 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: kcvl
The left and anti-American infiltrators use the tools of immigration, be it legal or illegal to lay this country to waste for their own gain.

Never mind tens of millions of Americans are out of work, or underemployed etc. Never mind there are issues with resources, water, housing, energy, jobs etc, regardless of how much harm this causes Americans.

The more immigrants the leftist can get in, the more power they gain, as the immigrants understand where the handouts, coupons and freebies come from.

And it's why the Republican party are also using immigration as a tool for their own personal benefit.(See Bush's multiple attempts at amnesty).

They just don't give a damn the insidious harm it's causing America.

41 posted on 08/15/2012 10:39:24 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: kcvl
Some, including House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, have called the policy backdoor amnesty and said they worry about fraud.

He's worried about fraud?

Somebody tell this guy one of our biggest industries in the U.S. now is FRAUD, due to lunatic immigration policies which have been going on for decades. How much they pay this guy?

Since this never ending uncontrolled immigration free for all, both legal and illegal have been going on for decades, when did Lamar finally figure this out?

I can't believe people are being sucked into their epic con job.

42 posted on 08/15/2012 10:48:49 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: kcvl; All

Of course the Dems want the illegals here (then again, ask blacks what they think about it and you will hear a different tune). However, blame should be given to the GOP as well. Big business loves cheap labor and the GOP was a willing partner as long as big business continued to donate (better word should be “bribe”) to the GOP.

I really thought after 9-11 that, at the very least, our borders would be sealed up, but no. What would it take?

Sure, we have states like Arizona and Alabama taking a tougher stand on illegals, and we also have states trying to enact voter ID laws. Where was all this 20 to 30 years ago?

What exactly is Romney’s plan to deport illegals? I don’t think he wants to. I doubt that many in the GOP want to deport. They are desperately trying to win the Hispanic vote. Even Reagan granted amnesty.

And how has that worked so far?


43 posted on 08/15/2012 10:56:06 AM PDT by eekitsagreek
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To: kcvl; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Amnesty Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

44 posted on 08/15/2012 11:07:15 AM PDT by HiJinx (He who controls the water, controls life.)
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To: tacticalogic

Yes, this was done by Executive Order. And The One said it was a ‘political change’ that allowed him to do this, since the Republicans in Congress wouldn’t do it for him.


45 posted on 08/15/2012 11:13:39 AM PDT by HiJinx (He who controls the water, controls life.)
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To: dragnet2

Having been a LEGAL alien and now a naturalized CITIZEN I REFUSE to use the term “undocumented immigrants.” It’s “ILLEGAL ALIEN!” I despise when demonrats try to put a pretty blue satin bow on a pile of feces!!

I suggest EVERYONE who is PRO American start getting back to the original term “ILLEGAL ALIEN.”


46 posted on 08/15/2012 11:19:13 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: kcvl
The predictable results of lax border enforcement is destruction of the country in this very manner.

Its hard to believe the open border, 'these-are-natural-republicans' types on our side were so easily duped.

Including the few remaining open border brainstems who still haunt FR with their ill-considered opinions on the matter. Brilliant, guys.

47 posted on 08/15/2012 11:20:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: AbolishCSEU
I didn't use that term, you did.

And I personally don't give a damn if you just landed here from another planet.

America no longer needs immigrants legal or illegal..It's choking off our country...America needs a major moratorium on all immigration. Our legal immigration policies should have been radically reformed, like 10 years ago. Now it needs to be completely eliminated for the next 20 years due to this never ending free for all.

The U.S. government has turned the U.S. into an immigration dumping ground.

Hello?

48 posted on 08/15/2012 11:28:53 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: HiJinx
From an article (on this) on Fox...

As duly elected custodians of the U.S. Constitution, Congress has a sacred responsibility to reassert its authority to write and regulate immigration laws. They must demand that the president abide by the Constitutional Separation of Powers doctrine, and reign in the abuse of executive power President Obama is using to ignore the law.

Cowards, all!

49 posted on 08/15/2012 11:36:49 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: rlmorel; HiJinx

Not only is it an executive order. The bill for this was defeated by a Democrat Congress in December 2010. It was not only a Democrat Congress, it was a LAME DUCK Democrat Congress. They could basically do anything they wanted. And they STILL defeated it.

These executive orders are receiving too little attention. I don’t mean here on FR and among like-minded people, I mean in the general population. I was hoping the Dinesh D’Souza movie would go into Obama’s abuses of power, but it seemed to me that he avoided the subject.

By the way, the movie opens Friday in a lot of places. I’m not getting a percentage of the box office, I just think it is worth seeing twice. The three interviews at the end of the movie—Shelby Steele, Daniel Pipes, and David Walker—are superb. More thrilling than any shootout scene in Total Recall.


50 posted on 08/15/2012 11:44:12 AM PDT by firebrand
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