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A Mosque Is Not Like a Church or a Synagogue
American Thinker ^ | August 12, 2012 | Janet Levy

Posted on 08/12/2012 11:04:03 AM PDT by neverdem

The marked proliferation of mosques in the U.S. since 9/11 should raise a red flag for Americans. Recent controversies surrounding mega-mosque construction projects countrywide -- many in locations with almost no Muslims to speak of -- have grave implications for the future of these targeted communities and areas beyond.

Accelerated mosque-building -- in Murfreesboro, Tennessee; Staten Island, Brooklyn, and Ground Zero, New York; and Santa Clara and Temecula, California, to name a few -- carries significance beyond the mere construction of a collection of Muslim houses of worship. It represents yet another orchestrated effort to oust traditional American values and replace them with Islamic practices, laws, and beliefs.

Although most U.S. mosques heretofore have been built without resistance, the newly attendant controversies present speciously polarized views between, on the one hand, ostensibly welcoming, tolerant, multi-culti progressives who deny any possible radical agenda despite substantial evidence to the contrary in existing mosques and, on the other hand, so-called fearful, Islamophobic, ignorant bigots unwilling to embrace diversity. Mainstream media's predominant point of view is that any opposition to mosque-building represents a blatant unwillingness to integrate Muslims into American communities. This view disallows the possibility that such objections represent appropriate, reasoned responses to an attempt to destroy America from within and...

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It should be noted that a mosque is totally unlike a church or a synagogue, entities that serve their communities under the law of the land and are both empowered and restrained under the First Amendment of the Constitution. Under the Establishment Clause of that amendment, the government is prohibited from establishing a state religion or conferring preferential treatment on one religion over another. Although the government may not interfere with religious beliefs and opinions, the proscription of religious practices is permissible, as in the examples of polygamy and human sacrifice...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; aliens; crushislam; islam; islamofascism; kalbislam; qitalislam; sharia; shariah; sharialaw
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To: neverdem

Homosexual behavior is and has always been rampant in the arab world and has been for centuries. I grew up there as a teenager and became well aware of this. They can’t stand the West’s overt effeminate version nor is the practice of long term same age partners something normal there which is mocked. They persecute those who break the cultural mores and/or expose to the public eye and the media what is tolerated on the down-low or through salutary neglect.

In Wilfred Thesiger’s The Arabian ands and The Marsh Arabs this stuff is shown as a right of passage for most of the young teenagers.
Also check John R. Bradley - Behind the Veil Of Vice for a modern look at the culture.

I could go on...


21 posted on 08/12/2012 12:17:29 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Doorjam)
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To: KevinDavis; rawcatslyentist; knarf; DesertRhino; Lion Den Dan; himno hero; ...
The Muslim Brotherhood does not have a right to build mosques in the US. Foreign sources of funding can be legitimately, Constitutionally prohibited.

Also, and if IIRC, Scotus found some "religions" that based ceremonies on ganja and certain hallucogenic mushrooms to be outside 1st Amendment protection. A religion that professes, and has demonstrated abilities to conquer societies does not fall under the 1st Amendment either.

For Conscience, recall that the Framing generation believed republican government should support the foundational institutions of civil society. Christianity, family, industry, virtue in general and respect for the Constitution help unite us, and in a sane America would be promoted by all levels of government.

Islam is making inroads because government has unconstitutionally stomped on Christianity for some fifty years. People will not believe in nothing and bloody islam is filling the void.

Islam is hostile to, and a dagger pointed at the heart of our republic, which is why the Left, democrats and Hussein love it.

22 posted on 08/12/2012 12:23:37 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Obamacare - Constitutional Despotism)
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To: neverdem

Undercover Mosque

Prime Minister Tony Blair recently described tolerance as ‘what makes Britain Britain’ but in this extensive investigation Dispatches reveals how a message of hatred and segregation is being spread throughout the UK and examines how it is influenced by the religious establishment of Saudi Arabia.

Dispatches has investigated a number of mosques run by high profile national organisations that claim to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. But an undercover reporter joined worshippers to find a message of religious bigotry and extremism being preached.

He captures chilling sermons in which Saudi-trained preachers proclaim the supremacy of Islam, preach hatred for non-Muslims and for Muslims who do not follow their extreme beliefs – and predict a coming jihad. “An army of Muslims will arise,” announces one preacher. Another preacher said British Muslims must “dismantle” British democracy – they must “live like a state within a state” until they are “strong enough to take over.”

The investigation reveals Saudi Arabian universities are recruiting young Western Muslims to train them in their extreme theology, then sending them back to the West to spread the word. And the Dispatches reporter discovers that British Muslims can ask for fatwas, religious rulings, direct from the top religious leader in “Saudi Arabia”, the Grand Mufti. (Excerpt from channel4.com)

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/dispatches-undercover-mosque/

48 minutes of sheer koranimal terror gift wrapped from saudia arabia...our “friends”.


23 posted on 08/12/2012 12:26:09 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: neverdem

Islam is not a religion.....it is an invasion.


24 posted on 08/12/2012 12:43:30 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: KevinDavis

There is the erroneous assertion that Radical Islam is not connected with mainstream (moderate) Islam in any way, that the religion of Islam has been “hijacked by a few extremists” that the vast majority of Muslims do not agree with the Islamofascists. Such thinking is a terrible error and a grave threat to America’s national security, especially in this age of nuclear terrorism.

So what is Radical Islam and what should it be properly named? Radical Islam is actually the Islamic Military. The so-called radicals are not a fringe element; they are fully supported by the worldwide Islamic community (Ummah). If they were a fringe element, they would have been defeated long ago. The fight rages on because of strong support from the moderates both covertly and overtly. This means the Islamic Military (wrongly labeled radicals) is intimately connected with moderate Muslims who we have mistakenly labeled as innocent bystanders.

Moderate Muslims are not innocent bystanders. Moderate Muslims provide the base of operations which makes it possible for the Islamic Military to continue their terrorist operations. Hate America, demands to replace constitution with the Koran, and outbursts for Sharia law are preached openly from nearly every Mosque in America under the guise of freedom of speech and religion. Freedom of speech and religion has morphed into a weaponized tool of Islamic psychological warfare which is defeating America’s will to protect her national security. Any American who says Islam is less than perfect may become the victim of an unfair lawsuit by a “moderate” Muslim organization.

Why can one be so certain about this fact? The answer is the Koran. The Koran fuses together both moderates and their military. No Muslim dares to contradict the Koran because the penalty is — death and loss of personal salvation. The moderate Muslims of every nation, including those in America fully support their Islamic military because worldwide conquest is the primary religious duty of all Muslims. Fellow Americans if you believe that your local Muslims are not secretly harboring in their hearts an agenda for the conquest of America by Islam then you are dead wrong, and understand nothing about the Koran.

Moderate Muslims may not carry weapons and murder innocent people hands on, but they play the role of “wolves in sheep’s clothing”. Moderate Muslims use two primary strategies to make conquest for Islam. The first is dawa, which is influence peddling, “wining and dining” and manipulation. You make conquest by “pleasing” your opponent, “buttering them up” — bribery and back room dealings are common place. There is a “ton” of Muslim oil money buying preferential treatment for Islam in America. The second is taqiyya, which is outright deception and lying. Deception and lying to infidels as a strategy of conquest is one of Islam’s most valued “weapons”, a precedent set by the prophet Mohammed himself. Americans hear this deception everyday with proclamations that “Islam is a religion of peace.” This phrase is an excellent example of successful psychological warfare which has caused Americans to let down their guard, and made us very vulnerable to future terrorist attacks, even possible nuclear attacks as several experts have pointed out.

Recent history proves that the “so called peaceful Muslims” work as a team with their Islamic Military. They immigrate to a country touting what peaceful law abiding citizens they are, establish themselves, build mosques, increase their numbers and “bingo” terrorists acts start occurring in the host country. Do the attacks in Spain, England, France, Thailand, Bali, the Philippines, Holland, Sweden and the USA ring any bells here? All these attacks have been preceded by the establishment of moderate mosque communities which in turn became footholds from which the Islamic military could launch their terrorist attacks. The larger the percentage of Muslims that occupy a country the greater the havoc they wreak. The situation is directly proportional. Reducing the percentage of Muslims that dwell in the host country is the most effect way of stopping terrorism. Western governments must evaluate this fact very seriously if they wish to win the war against Islamofascism long term.

Have we Americans become gullible fools? As long as we fail to deal aggressively and comprehensively with the intimate Koranic connection between the moderate Muslims and their Islamic military we can never stop the terrorist attacks. Have you ever wondered why, so numerous the complaints worldwide, that Muslims are not assimilating into their host nation? It is because they are not there to assimilate — they are there to conquer the host country for Islam as their Koran requires. Fellow Americans please read the Koran for your self. Don’t take my word on it. You will learn first hand that anyone who tells you that Islam is a religion of peace is insulting your intelligence. The Penguin Classic edition, The Koran, translated by the Arab Scholar N. J. Dawood is a well respected version having sold over a million copies worldwide.

The best description of the symbiotic Koranic relationship between the moderates and their military comes from the Muslims themselves. They have a saying, “the poisonous fish swim in the sea”. The “poisonous fish” are the militants and the “sea” is the moderate mosque community. For example, for their 9/11 operation, the Islamic Military (poisonous fish) used the Al Farouq mosque in New York as the “sea” from which they “swam” to pulverize the trade towers. The next poisonous fish may be swimming from the sea of your local Mosque community with a nuclear explosion. Wake up Americans we are not fighting with bows and arrows anymore. We must take aggressive preventative measures to stop the Islamic military’s “euphoric” obsession to make a nuclear attack on American soil.

It is a great mistake to continue calling the Islamic military radicals because the term “radicals” has blinded us to think that the moderates are not in cahoots with their Islamic Military. In so doing we have violated the primary dictum of warfare which is to know and understand one’s enemy. Consequently, we have failed to understand that the Islam of Osama Bin Laden is main stream Islam – not a radical fringe. Osama Bin Laden is one of the generals of the Islamic military which is fully supported by the worldwide community of moderate Muslims, including American Muslims. Both moderate Muslims and their military have the same goal which is the Islamic conquest of the entire world — this is the primary religious duty of all Muslims as required by the Koran. Americans desperately need to understand this fact if they wish to protect their country from great harm.

By Martel Sobieskey

Says it all


25 posted on 08/12/2012 12:46:57 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: neverdem

Mosques are forward operating bases.


26 posted on 08/12/2012 12:52:35 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: himno hero

Bump.


27 posted on 08/12/2012 12:58:39 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Bocephus hits a home run! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_vjPqAVzI)
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To: neverdem

Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Invade American Mosques
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In January of 2006, Freedom House’s Center for Religious Freedom released a new report exposing the dissemination of hate propaganda in America by the government of Saudi Arabia.

The 89-page report, “Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Fill American Mosques,” is based on a year-long study of over two hundred original documents, all disseminated, published or otherwise generated by the government of Saudi Arabia and collected from more than a dozen mosques in the United States.

The propagation of hate ideology by Saudi Arabia is known to be worldwide, but its occurrence within the United States has received scant attention until now. Within worldwide Sunni Islam, followers of Saudi Arabia’s extremist Wahhabi ideology are a distinct minority, as is evident by the millions of Muslims who have chosen to make America their home and are upstanding, law-abiding citizens and neighbors.

The report concludes that the Saudi government propaganda examined reflects a “totalitarian ideology of hatred that can incite to violence,” and the fact that it is “being mainstreamed within our borders through the efforts of a foreign government, namely Saudi Arabia, demands our urgent attention.” The report finds: “Not only does the government of Saudi Arabia not have a right – under the First Amendment or any other legal document – to spread hate ideology within U.S. borders, it is committing a human rights violation by doing so.”

Such publications that “advocate an ideology of hatred have no place in a nation founded on religious freedom and toleration,” write James Woolsey, chairman of the board of Freedom House, in the foreword to the report.

Among the key findings of the report:

• Various Saudi government publications gathered for this study, most of which are in Arabic, assert that it is a religious obligation for Muslims to hate Christians and Jews and warn against imitating, befriending, or helping them in any way, or taking part in their festivities and celebrations;

• The documents promote contempt for the United States because it is ruled by legislated civil law rather than by totalitarian Wahhabi-style Islamic law. They condemn democracy as un-Islamic;

• The documents stress that when Muslims are in the lands of the unbelievers, they must behave as if on a mission behind enemy lines. Either they are there to acquire new knowledge and make money to be later employed in the jihad against the infidels, or they are there to proselytize the infidels until at least some convert to Islam. Any other reason for lingering among the unbelievers in their lands is illegitimate, and unless a Muslim leaves as quickly as possible, he or she is not a true Muslim and so too must be condemned. For example, a document in the collection for the “Immigrant Muslim” bears the words “Greetings from the Cultural Attache in Washington, D.C.” of the Embassy of Saudi Arabia, and is published by the government of Saudi Arabia. In an authoritative religious voice, it gives detailed instructions on how to “hate” the Christian and Jew: Never greet them first. Never congratulate the infidel on his holiday. Never imitate the infidel. Do not become a naturalized citizen of the United States. Do not wear a graduation gown because this imitates the infidel;

• One insidious aspect of the Saudi propaganda examined is its aim to replace traditional and moderate interpretations of Islam with extremist Wahhabism, the officially-established religion of Saudi Arabia. In these documents, other Muslims, especially those who advocate tolerance, are condemned as infidels. The opening fatwa in one Saudi embassy-distributed book, published by the Saudi Air Force, responds to a question about a Muslim preacher in a European mosque who taught that it is not right to condemn Jews and Christians as infidels. The Saudi state cleric’s reply rebukes the Muslim cleric: “He who casts doubts about their infidelity leaves no doubt about his.” Since, under Saudi law, “apostates” from Islam can be sentenced to death, this is an implied death threat against the tolerant Muslim imam, as well as an incitement to vigilante violence;

• Sufi and Shiite Muslims are viciously condemned;

• For a Muslim who fails to uphold the Saudi Wahhabi sect’s sexual mores (i.e. through homosexual activity or heterosexual activity outside of marriage), the edicts published by the Saudi government’s Ministry of Islamic Affairs, and found in American mosques advise, “it would be lawful for Muslims to spill his blood and to take his money;”

• Regarding those who convert out of Islam, the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs explicitly asserts, they “should be killed;”

• Saudi textbooks and other publications in the collection, propagate a Nazi-like hatred for Jews, treat the forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion as historical fact, and avow that the Muslim’s duty is to eliminate the state of Israel;

• Regarding women, the Saudi publications instruct that they should be veiled, segregated from men and barred from certain employment and roles;

The report states: “While the government of Saudi Arabia claims to be ‘updating’ or reforming its textbooks and study materials within the Kingdom, its publications propagating an ideology of hatred remain plentiful in some prominent American mosques and Islamic centers, and continue to be a principal resource available to students of Islam within the United States.”

The research, translation and principle analysis of the materials for the report were carried out by both Muslims and non-Muslims who wish to remain anonymous for reasons of security. Some 90 percent of the publications are in Arabic; two independent translators reviewed each Arabic document. This project was undertaken after many Muslims requested the Center’s help in exposing Saudi extremism in the hope of freeing their communities from ideological strangulation.

Read the full report here.
http://www.freedomhouse.org/sites/default/files/inline_images/Saudi%20Publications%20on%20Hate%20Ideology%20Invade%20American%20Mosques.pdf

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28 posted on 08/12/2012 1:14:47 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

In Arabic, the word for “black” is also the word for “slave”.


29 posted on 08/12/2012 1:23:21 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: neverdem

White Christian America does not have the spiritual strength necessary to effectively resist the ongoing “Third World” conquest of our country. The Egalitarian infection has sapped our will to resist.


30 posted on 08/12/2012 1:26:58 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: neverdem
Exactly. Your local mosque is a training ground for terrorists, a bomb factory, armory and ammo dump. Nothing to see here because Janet Incompitano and DHS are focused on the TEA Party as the threat. Right!
31 posted on 08/12/2012 2:09:14 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: neverdem

“Rather than allowing the building of more mega-mosques in the United States, we should halt existing projects and seriously consider shutting down existing mosques to prevent the proliferation of an ideology that has publicly pledged to destroy America.”

Like a dog marking a fire hydrant with its urine, mosques are being proliferated to “mark Islam’s doglike spot” throughout The West.

“Mainstream media’s predominant point of view is that any opposition to mosque-building represents a blatant unwillingness to integrate Muslims into American communities.”

I see nothing wrong with that assertion. It’s exactly how I believe. To wit, Muslims, who allow no place for the West within their own societies, do not belong -in- the societies of The West. Islam is anathema to Western freedom. It is poison to us. I do not wish to share my world with Islamics, for with them, “coexistance” will last only until they amass the numbers and strength to overthrow us.

And instead of fighting them, we seem to be doing everything within our power to make that struggle EASIER for them.

The West must realize that the very creeds we have established to protect our liberty, can and will be used against us in order to destroy that freedom. I realize that it grates against the grain of the freedom-loving individuals who read this, but even something as sacrosanct to us as The First Amendment will have to itself be “amended” so that Muslims cannot hide behind its shield, and use it to cloak their true intentions.

Until we recognize such things, we are turning a blind eye to the threat of Islam, and a willing cheek by which they may smite us once more.


32 posted on 08/12/2012 2:19:42 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: patriot08

Thanks for the test & link.


33 posted on 08/12/2012 2:26:39 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Christians have been fighting these Muslim bastards since the Crusades.


34 posted on 08/12/2012 3:17:37 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
You may think Islam is not a legitimate religion. I may think Islam is not a legitimate religion. But, the moment we grant the government the power to decide what is and is not a religion worthy of First Amendment protection, we have effectively obliterated the First Amendment. No religion would be safe.

Nonsense. Denying religious status to organization which teach the murder and enslaving of non-adherents, the property status of women, and the replacement of American government with its own theocracy through sabotage, terrorism and murder is NOT a threat to the 1A. Quite the opposite, in fact. Without the rejection of such provisions, the 1A stands for nothing.

As proof, if you are female, I forbid you from replying - on pain of death.

35 posted on 08/12/2012 3:44:21 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: neverdem

Very simple: It’s going to be them or us.


36 posted on 08/12/2012 5:04:09 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Jacquerie

So very true and well said.


37 posted on 08/12/2012 5:11:23 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: neverdem

A Mosque in the US is an ammo dump/armory if it’s not a training ground for sedition.


38 posted on 08/12/2012 7:08:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Frank_2001

Thank you. I didn’t know that.


39 posted on 08/12/2012 8:08:03 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: KevinDavis

Would we tolerate the religions of the Aztecs, Inca, and Mayans?
I don’t think we don’t have to “tolerate” a religion whose “holy” rights include subduing or murdering their neighbors.


40 posted on 08/13/2012 4:12:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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