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Great news: TSA to unionize
HotAir.com ^ | 8/6/2012 | Dustin Siggins

Posted on 08/06/2012 2:18:49 PM PDT by Crazieman

From The Right Scoop, initially blogged by PJ Media:

As of Thursday, August 2, 2012, the Transportation Security Administration has agreed to unionize. The agency, best known for groping and offending Americans as we attempt to fly from one part of the country to the other, has agreed to allow the American Federation of Government Employees to unionize its workers.

From the Facebook page of the American Federation of Government Employees, the official announcement:

“For 10 long years AFGE has fought hard so that Transportation Security Officers would have collective bargaining rights. We have often looked back and wondered why it was taking so long,” said AFGE National President John Gage. “Today we begin to look forward.”

“This collective bargaining agreement will better the working lives of 45,000 hard-working, dedicated employees, and that’s a fantastic feeling,” AFGE TSA Council 100 President Kim Kraynak-Lambert said. “TSOs come to work every day in the face of intense public and congressional scrutiny and, to the best of their ability, protect this nation from terrorist attacks. Now we can look forward to new rights and new working conditions, and a chance to form a true labor-management partnership. And, contrary to some of the misinformation circulating about TSA, an agreement will not adversely affect security – security related matters were strictly excluded from negotiations. In fact, this agreement will strengthen our ability to carry out TSA’s vital mission of protecting the American people.”

“What this contract will do is provide for increased uniformity on fair treatment and the other issues important to employees across the nation’s airports,” Gage added. “Both parties believe the agreement will also provide much needed schedule flexibility. Improvements in working conditions will also benefit both TSA and the officers by fostering a family-friendly workplace where the employees have greater job satisfaction and feel supported in performing their important security work.”

Of course, the TSA workforce will have to vote on whether or not to ratify the collective bargaining agreement. According to the aforementioned Facebook announcement, that process will be taking place in the coming months. In the meantime, so many jokes can be made about this. Off the top of my head…

1. Fostering a family-friendly workplace. Does that mean no mothers, grandmothers, and children will be groped?

2. Does the TSA’s “important security work” include protection from sexual harassment by federal employees?

3. I’m curious about these “new rights” that TSA employees will get. Will those new rights be given in exchange for giving law-abiding Americans our rights back?

4. “New working conditions,” huh? Given that at least one estimate has said the TSA at one point had failed screening tests 70% of the time, perhaps those new working conditions could include actually finding at least one person who is a potential terrorist threat?

5. From my buddy Nick R. Brown, who is far more clever than I am: “If they strike, do we get to opt out of gropings?”

In all seriousness, the TSA needs significant reform, but this isn’t it. We really don’t need further complications or expense within an agency that continually and unnecessarily violates too many constitutional rights to keep track of. I personally support eliminating its existence entirely, though I admit to not having a cohesive replacement strategy in mind. Last year Ed suggested the TSA continue to look at how Israel conduct its airport security, though a former co-worker with expertise in the airline industry told me that what Israel does would not work for America. Any suggestions in the comments as to how to phase out the TSA and replace it with something better? Or should the TSA stay, and merely be significantly modified?

[Update] A number of comments are talking about the unionization, and asking how it came to be, since the Bush Administration hadn’t allowed unionization. I called James Sherk of The Heritage Foundation to ask him about this, and he explained that the decision to collectively bargain or not has been left up to the Administrator of the TSA. James pointed out that while workers have a right to join a union because of free association, the question always remains as to whether the employer will bargain with that union. Obviously, under Bush, no Administrator was going to do so. Once President Obama got his pick for Administrator through the Senate, however, he instituted collective bargaining in the agency.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afge; biglabor; corruption; democrats; donutwatch; govtabuse; islam; labor; obama; powerghraib; powergrab; tsa; tyranny; union; unionize; unionthugs; wot
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1 posted on 08/06/2012 2:19:02 PM PDT by Crazieman
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To: Crazieman

Makes perfect sense to me. Inferior people always unionize in today’s workforce.

The day’s of REAL reasons to unionize are mostly all gone.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 2:24:46 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Crazieman
Obama's CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE is taking shape.
3 posted on 08/06/2012 2:30:54 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Crazieman

The democrats finally found a way to politically profit from terrorism.


4 posted on 08/06/2012 2:32:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
The democrats finally found a way to politically profit from terrorism.

Oh, they had those before this...this is just another way for them to politically profit from terrorism.

5 posted on 08/06/2012 2:35:13 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

This is just a bone thrown to Richie Trumka to salve him over not getting Card Check, and to thank him for joining the campaign to help deal with Obama’s “white guy problem”.


6 posted on 08/06/2012 2:37:33 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Crazieman

Can the function of airport screening be privatized? I understand that this has been done in several locations, with good results (less wait time, more efficient use of personnel, and generally better conditions for the screeners), and it also takes away a potential source of greater bureaucratic intercession.

The screening of air passengers should have ALWAYS been the purview and duty of the airlines themselves, as they are the ones whose equipment is under threat, and whose aircrews are at risk. Government employees have no such incentive to take their duties anywhere nearly as seriously.


7 posted on 08/06/2012 2:38:40 PM PDT by alloysteel (Voter suppression is needed now more than ever. Only, whom shall be suppressed?)
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To: Crazieman

Now watch the cost balloon, plus you’ll not be able to fire somebody when they feel-you-up.

Workers should only be able to unionize if they can show widespread mistreatment. This is TSA, a government job, how bad can it be?

...if we thought a “screener with a badge” was bad before, any bets as to when the next “abuse of power” story appears?


8 posted on 08/06/2012 2:40:02 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Crazieman

The government said “Don’t complain, it could be worse.”

Now they are determined to prove it.


9 posted on 08/06/2012 2:40:18 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Crazieman

Awesome, government unions make everything better. /sarc


10 posted on 08/06/2012 2:42:03 PM PDT by mykroar (October race riots bring November martial law. Voting postponed for your safety.)
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To: Crazieman

I’d let them unionize if they’d figure out how to collect their paychecks without xraying or irradiating or groping us. (We’ve stopped flying until these fine folks can do this )


11 posted on 08/06/2012 2:45:23 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: Crazieman
So now a bunch of brainless union goons are gatekeepers for our ability to travel freely. No potential for disaster there.

First strike, they need to become the incarnation of the air traffic controllers under Reagan: unemployed.

12 posted on 08/06/2012 3:05:33 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

Do you REALLY think an ObaRomney would fire govt workers?


13 posted on 08/06/2012 3:14:15 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Crazieman
and America takes another one in the........

14 posted on 08/06/2012 3:20:15 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Crazieman

Since I haven’t flown since Jan. 2005 and plan to never ever fly or step foot on any airport property again for the rest of my life - I don’t care.


15 posted on 08/06/2012 3:37:16 PM PDT by Pilated
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To: Crazieman

Great — the lines will get longer and airfares will rise higher.


16 posted on 08/06/2012 3:47:55 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Crazieman
How many terror attacks have the TSA screeners stopped?

My bet, the answer is like the president, zero.

5.56mm

17 posted on 08/06/2012 3:49:07 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Crazieman

now that they’re free from worry over being fired they can really give us a good groping.

http://thedailypatdown.com/

Many Freepers predicted when it was created, this (and similar ) would be the outcome when Bush authorized creation of DHS.

if the boondoggle fits...intentions don’t matter.outcomes do.

$1 Billion Airport Security Program Yet to Catch a Terrorist

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2748080/posts

T.S.A. Says Airport Security Officers Can Unionize

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2668699/posts


18 posted on 08/06/2012 3:51:48 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Crazieman
TSA is nothing more than a Bush Administration jobs program for the chronically unemployed and McDonalds rejects.

AND THEY CAN VOTE!

19 posted on 08/06/2012 4:11:43 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Jyotishi
Great — the lines will get longer and airfares will rise higher.

Not to worry, we have a fast, efficient money making railroad to travel on to get around all the government airport BS.

20 posted on 08/06/2012 4:19:18 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Crazieman; All

This is the nightmare I have been warning about, since the first day TSA was proposed..

What the radical left has lacked in America is a way to SHUT DOWN THE ECONOMY to protest anything and everything.

Give the Unions control of TSA, and they finally, after 100 years, have a way of creating economic chaos in Americam at any time they choose to.

And if you don’t believe that, you are probably naive to still think that government would NEVER allow TSA to Unionize, or that America would never elected a Socialist ex-drug dealer as President.


21 posted on 08/06/2012 5:43:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Crazieman

Actually, there wasn’t too much the TSA could do to become worse. Some people are so gifted when it comes to living down to our expectations.


22 posted on 08/06/2012 5:58:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: Sarajevo

The TSA is just one of a number of reasons why the old canard, “But the nation won’t survive four more years...”, doesn’t hold water with me any longer.

Both parties screw us. Our own bozo handed off a nation almost toes up.

It’s time for a change, not not shuffling..., a real meaningful change of direction back from the brink.

And no, striking down one massive government program only to replace it with your own, IS NOT what I’m talking about.

And kissing the ass of foreign nationals while flipping off your own citizens isn’t either.

It’s time to slice and dice, and it’s time to start saying no to people who demand while not producing.

The producers should be making all the demands.


23 posted on 08/06/2012 6:07:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: EGPWS

24 posted on 08/06/2012 6:07:42 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: tcrlaf

Where’s our Reagan when you need someone to stand up to a union? I’ll bet he had a resolution to the problem of them striking.


25 posted on 08/06/2012 6:09:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: DoughtyOne

This may be step one to unintended consequences.

We may have a TEA Party President someday, and striking TSA workers............

I hope I live to see the day!


26 posted on 08/06/2012 6:19:58 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Same here.

Here’s an instance where Congress could step in and set it up so the TSA cannot strike on national security grounds.

Thank that will happen? No holding MY breath...


27 posted on 08/06/2012 6:29:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: Crazieman

This is old news.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 7:36:28 PM PDT by HollyB
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29 posted on 08/06/2012 8:03:47 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Pilated
Since I haven’t flown since Jan. 2005 and plan to never ever fly or step foot on any airport property again for the rest of my life - I don’t care

Umm you should care a lot. TSA is setting up screenings at train and bus stations also across the country. They are going to eventually be in everyone's face and grabbing your balls literally everywhere you go.

30 posted on 08/06/2012 8:37:30 PM PDT by eak3
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To: DoughtyOne
Amen & agree 100%!

It's time for the soil of liberty (or tree of liberty -- can't remember which one), needs to be watered once again with the blood of patriots & that of tyrants & their minions. And to throw off the old govt and form a new govt as specified in the Declaration of Independence.

31 posted on 08/06/2012 9:27:41 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Crazieman

Great, so now they will need even more useless employees to stand around to watch as lines form and people get Xrayed and groped. To add insult to the taxpayers injury these morons will get more moey and benefits and still won’t get fired for failing to stop any threats.


32 posted on 08/06/2012 10:12:18 PM PDT by matt04
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To: skeeter

>> The democrats finally found a way to politically profit from terrorism.

Well, according to the docudrama, “Path to 9-11”, they didn’t allow the bombing of UBL’s training camps.


33 posted on 08/06/2012 10:15:36 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Crazieman


34 posted on 08/06/2012 10:24:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rcrngroup

I don’t want you to think that I am advocating some sort of violence. That’s not going to work and I would never advocate that unless and until we were attacked and had no choice. Violence is the VERY LAST option.

We just need to march on Washington five to ten million strong, and refuse to leave until we get some action on our grievances.

Face it, our military would mow us down in ten minutes. We don’t have a prayer’s chance to win a military action. All we would do is commit suicide and prove the government right, that the Tea Party was a bunch of militarized haters and kooks.

The government would have drones that could operate from five miles away, and hit you before you could even see it. That’s not a plan.

I just think it’s time to call the Republicans out, and ask them if they ever plan on defending what is right? If not, then lets please leave the party and start a new one, or better yet take the party over politically.


35 posted on 08/06/2012 11:21:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: Crazieman

What, no Beerhall -- putzes?

Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

 

36 posted on 08/07/2012 3:30:00 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: DoughtyOne

[We just need to march on Washington five to ten million strong, and refuse to leave until we get some action on our grievances.]

Who would buy the groceries and empty the portapoties?

Got logistics?

What we need to do — is calmly stay the course and fill the Capital with enough Tea to be able to impeach whatever RAT, RINO, or whatever other tax-o-nomic varmint happens to infest the White Hut.

Impeach, Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

{ Got that, Myth? }


37 posted on 08/07/2012 3:35:51 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: M Kehoe

You are correct.
The tsa has not stopped or prevented any terror attacks.
They are a day late and dollar short.
Whole premise for the tsa is to harrass the flying public and to become unionized. Now they have both.
Bet they go on strike soon just because they can.


38 posted on 08/07/2012 5:10:00 AM PDT by Texas resident (November 6 - Vote Against obama)
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To: Crazieman

Of course not. I said “should,” not “will.”


39 posted on 08/07/2012 5:11:24 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: OldEarlGray

You couple the march on Washington with a general strike.

I know that sounds like a harmful thing to do, but you give that a week or so, and the politicians in D. C. would melt like butter at a picnic on a hot summer day.

We give these guys too much of a free ride.


40 posted on 08/07/2012 8:30:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: DoughtyOne
another leftist money-laundering operation...
41 posted on 08/07/2012 12:49:57 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some use "roads & bridges"...to go to the beach. Others go to their offices, farms, labs & library.)
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To: IronJack

42 posted on 08/07/2012 12:53:01 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some use "roads & bridges"...to go to the beach. Others go to their offices, farms, labs & library.)
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To: matt04

43 posted on 08/07/2012 12:56:24 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "roads & bridges"...go to the beach. Others to their offices, farms, labs & libraries...)
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To: 4Liberty

It seems to me that there should be a way to set up an employee group that could protect employees rights, without the forced donations part of it, and the blatant union thug problems that crop up.

Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, I think any attempt to develop one would be wishful thinking on the order of Jimmy Carter. It just wouldn’t work.

Are they un-American? We’ll they sure aren’t pro capitalist. That’s for sure. Most people would agree they’re un-American.


44 posted on 08/07/2012 1:33:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: Sarajevo
TSA is nothing more than a Bush Administration jobs program for the chronically unemployed and McDonalds rejects.

AND THEY CAN VOTE!


Those FReepers who were saying Bush and the Republicans were creating the tools for the Democrats to use against us weren't kidding.
45 posted on 08/07/2012 3:17:18 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: DoughtyOne
Yes. Too bad they've become corrupt protectionist money-laundering rackets.
46 posted on 08/07/2012 4:39:17 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "roads & bridges"...go to the beach. Others to their offices, farms, labs & libraries...)
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To: af_vet_rr

47 posted on 08/07/2012 4:40:38 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "roads & bridges"...go to the beach. Others to their offices, farms, labs & libraries...)
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To: 4Liberty

What a great little graphic that is. Thanks.


48 posted on 08/07/2012 5:14:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: 4Liberty

I saw that graphic and it stared me to thinking.

It would be interesting to know what percentage of Democrats have government jobs and what percentage of Republicans have government jobs.

I think I’ll see if I can find an answer to that.


49 posted on 08/07/2012 5:18:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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