We may not know very much about the shooter or his motives yet ... but we do know enough to say that this is definitely a hate crime ... caused by a crazed Tea Party backed gun nut!
Posted on 08/06/2012 6:03:54 AM PDT by Zakeet
The suspect in a shooting that left six people dead at a Sikh temple in suburban Milwaukee on Sunday has been identified as Wade Michael Page, who served in the U.S. Army for about six years.
According to sources in the U.S. Army, Page enlisted in April 1992 and given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He served at Fort Bliss, Texas, in the psychological operations unit in 1994, and was last stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, attached to the psychological operations unit. The details of his discharge were not immediately clear.
Wade was killed outside the temple in a shootout with police officers after the rampage that left terrified congregants hiding in closets and others texting friends outside for help.
Officials had previously described the suspect as a heavy-set, 40-year-old Caucasian with numerous tattoos.
Sources tell CBS News some unspecified evidence suggests race or ethnicity may have played a role in the violence, but no links to extremist groups have been confirmed.
Local police called the attack an act of domestic terrorism, but other sources tell CBS News correspondent Bob Orr it may be more accurate to refer to "an investigation into a possible hate crime."
Neither the local nor the federal sources provided further details or suggested a possible motive, including whether the suspect specifically targeted the Sikh temple.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
We may not know very much about the shooter or his motives yet ... but we do know enough to say that this is definitely a hate crime ... caused by a crazed Tea Party backed gun nut!
Oh good. This morning Fox News said he was still active duty. I see he was discharged with a less than Honorable. Fox News misreported. I was sad that it could have been an active duty. I am very glad he wasn’t. With the Less than Honorable Discharge, this is going to end up better than we think. Chances of him being a Republican or Tea Party are slim to none now.
Perhaps he was just Sikh of it all.
US news media: sometimes ya gotta wait till all the facts are in, & sometimes ya just gotta jump in with both feet.
My diagnosis: C-R-A-Z-Y.
Sikh Temple shooter identified
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Unnamed sources with unspecified evidence about an uncertain role in the violence.
This is what passes for "news" at ABCNNBCBS these days.
How about "He was a frickin' lunatic." Who care what his motivation was?
Unless he was right-wing, Tea party, Climate-change-denying, Romney-voting, or something else the MSM can make some hay over.....
Christallnacht.. Believe in it
Tom Metzger (white supremacist) is/was the leader of a group called "White Aryan Resistance" (WAR).
Years ago some "skinheads" murdered a black man. A civil trial brought against Metzger by the SPLC obtained a multi-million dollar decision against Metzger. IIRC the skinheads were not members of Metzger's group, never attended meetings, but were said to be influenced by the group's public statements and telephone-based messages.
IMO the Obama/Holder Dept. of Just Us, the MSM, et al will claim that the murderer was influenced by the Tea Party movement but will not say that he was a member; nevertheless the Tea Party will be blamed and legal action will follow. Why not? The Obama/Holder Dept. of Just Us has billions of dollars of taxpayers' money to use to destroy innocent citizens.
BTW these people need to upgrade their religion to have fire arms.
psy ops....hmmmmm.
Left wingers are wetting themselves with glee that not only is the shooter a white Army vet, but that he may have been involved with skinhead supremacist groups.
When did he convert to Islam? Muslim hate Sikhs. (but then, they hate EVERYONE!)
“Sources tell CBS News some unspecified evidence suggests...”
You know...My hip waders are still drying out from the last deluge of bullsh!t in Colorado...
Good to know the government is still using the same BS template...
CBS is so delighted, they are already on a first-name basis with the shooter.
Love gone wrong.
What ever happened to that guy that shot some 13 soldiers at Fort Hood?
The neighbor says, as she understood it, the suspect had lived in the apartment with his girlfriend until their recent break-up. The suspect had then moved into another apartment nearby two weeks ago. She says he had returned to the old apartment and was banging on the door of his old apartment, demanding to be let in. The neighbor also said she believed the suspect had a 9-11 tattoo.
The Left finally has their Herschel Grynszpan.
I have read that his girlfriend just left him. It’s a fact that some people kill others when going for suicide by cop while they are angry.
It’s a little odd that about the only thing that has been learned about the guy so far is that he was discharged from the army fourteen years ago. That’s the opening line in this story. Looks like they’d have come across some other facts about him from more recent years.
Sikhs believe in the principle of non-violence.
Interestingly, their interpretation of it requires all Sikhs, or at least all male Sikhs (not sure), to be armed at all times. Though this means carrying a sword or dagger (kirpan), which in today’s world often means a sword or dagger shaped pin.
That way, if somebody attempts to use violence on innocent people, the Sikh can stop him.
Which is a POV on non-violence I can agree with.
Historically, this POV evolved after many decades of the Sikhs trying to implement the more traditional Gandhian version of non-violence despite Muslim persecution.
Sikhs also wear “magic underwear” (Kachhera), much like devout Mormons, and for much the same reason. Doubt anybody is going to be making fun of them for it, though.
At least if a functional kirpan is around.
If that’s the photo Fox News is running with, then I suggest they pull it down. The alleged suspect should be around 40 years old, and wouldn’t have been alive during WWII (that is, if competing info about the Army vet suspect is correct).
I was joking.
Charlie Sykes in Milwaukee will be talking about this incident now:
Listen Live:
http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/122165534.html
Could explain it.
need his voting record..
Left-wingers are desperately hoping for a threefer. In their heads:
Strike 1- He served in the military, even though he had a less than honorable discharge.
Strike 2- He’s white.
Strike 3- He may have been associated with a white supremacist group.
lol colorado and wis. shooters are bot brain majors. hmmm..one an occupy and the other military...Dems have access to both. another hmmm. It’s taking a long time for FBI to manufacture the info about this shooter. As for FOXNEWS , bet someone fed their source wrong info on purpose.
Might not be the same person. Really need to NOT be like the MSM and search for people with the same name, printing the results as gospel.
There is NO way that’s the shooter. Fox News is full of crap. Do they want to get sued, too?
There is NO way that’s the shooter. Fox News is full of crap. Do they want to get sued, too?
Wonder if he was part of OWS- endorsed by the neo-Nazi party.. .
Twitter saying he was in a band called “End Apathy”...lead guitarist. They have a MySpace page but I can’t access it at work.
http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/77/7e4909f4b46e4f6e9345f3771f1b6a5b/l.png
Wonder if the Aurora nut and this current nut are part of the same Occupy group? Wouldn’t that be a kick?
“...If this is the same person.”
I AM better than the media....
Your point is well taken.
Yup. Thanks. That was good.
Honorable; General (under honorable conditions); Under Other than Honorable Conditions (OTH); Bad Conduct (also known as the BCD; and Dishonorable.
The last two discharges come at Court-Martial proceedings. The General and OTH discharges come from administrative means. Such as failures to do your job, DUI cases, being over weight, etc. They also come from some types of misbehavior and having multiple Article 15s under the UCMJ (those are punishments by commanders at company or battalion level which can reduce a soldier in rank, take away pay, restrict movement, extra after hours duties, etc.). Generally soldiers who simply cannot or willnot conform. You also could, used to be, discharged for being a homo.
There have been Sikh winners of the Victoria Cross and other medals of valor.
He certainly looks like something you'd see at OWS...
(Photo: SPLC)
There is also a Wade M. Page who was a Commander in the Navy in 2010 - people need to be careful whom they indict.
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Your Christian concern for the dead and their loved ones is astounding.
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Wish I knew how to play chess.
CIA having trouble with Sikhs in Middle East interfering with their plans to use radical Muslims to control the Middle East and stabilize it for the drug traffic.
You would think a guy in the military would know the difference between Sikhs and Wahabbists, or whatever you want to call them. Then again, experience teaches that some people, even in the military, are dumb as a rock.
He would be an easy mark to push over the edge, and given some guidance as to target. This temple had special visitors from the Middle East. First one shot was the main guest.
I think the rest were shot for effect. Pawns are taken off the board, and the power base changes.
Crazy ? Tin-foil hat ?
Yes. None of the above can be proven. It can be witnessed, though, and you are seeing it happen daily.
Guns and Drugs are two of the most wanted commodities on the planet (Note: I said ‘wanted’. ‘needed’ is another story). The game is to control it so they make money.
Everything happening right now is an attempt to control/monitor drugs and guns, and extract money from the sales and crime. Half of Arizona has already been ceded to the Mexican Druglords. We are being reduced to a populace of tribes who take drugs before we go out and attack another tribe, because they caused the rain to go away.
Demoralization
Destabilization
Chaos
Normalcy
We are in the Chaos stage (Yuri Bezmenov’s labels for the stages of complete takeover of the US by IDEOLOGICAL SUBVERSION)
What ever happened to that guy that shot some 13 soldiers at Fort Hood?
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I heard he grew a beard and nobody knows what to do about it.
Apparently he's been growing a beard. Showed up in court with it and the judge fined him for contempt of court.
Eventually, (maybe after the election ?) they will get around to finishing the pre-trial. When the trial might (if) occur is another story.
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