Posted on 08/06/2012 4:39:21 AM PDT by Zakeet
The man authorities say killed six in a Milwaukee-area Sikh temple before police shot him was a heavily-tattooed, 40-year-old ex-Army soldier, sources told Fox News, but what triggered his rampage remains unclear.
Sources identified the dead suspect as Wade Michael Page, who was at one time attached to the Fort Bragg Army installation in North Carolina. Local authorities have scheduled a 10 a.m. press conference, where more details may emerge about Page and what the FBI is treating as an act of domestic terrorism in the temple, in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek. Six people were killed and four wounded, including a police officer, before the man being identified as Page was shot dead by a police officer.
Satwant Kaleka, president of the temple, was one of those killed. Sources told Fox News he attempted to tackle the suspect as he sprayed gunfire inside the temple.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
But Ft. Hood was “workplace violence”. Right, got it. If it is against the bedrock of this country it is just simple violence, if it is against some sort of Minority, it is terrorism.
The template is now plain to see.
Also heard on Fox (NO idea if this is true) he’s “active-duty” and that his girlfriend is in custody.
Things are becoming very fishy very very fast. Why now? Why from “nuts?” Both had connections with Gumment agencies.
It has been corrected that he is a veteran and was attached to Ft. Bragg at one time. He was not active duty. It is also reported he had lots of supremacist tattoos.
Dang, I was attached to Ft. Bragg on TDY at one time, and that was over 30 years ago.
No, the authorities aer searching for a way to spin the motive of the shooter to fit their agenda. Or how best to lie.
I foresee many Sikhs obtaining CCW (since Wisconsin now allows CCW). If you want to survive....don’t “mess with” Sikhs or Gurkhas.
I was also a dependent at Ft. Bragg and that was 1963/4. So that would make me double trouble.
That is true. They embody the Teddy Roosevelt definition of diplomacy and war.
‘Motive’???....seriously?
and this guy seems to be a total zero in terms of any information out there on the Net. I still think when the Holmes shooting couldn’t be used to for Os purpose that the possibility of false flag events is high
I think onecreason there are now sometimes lengthy delays in releasing names or other info is so Facebook, MySpace, Twitter and other websites can be scrubbed.
That’s really not all that nefarious. It used to be I could do a websearch on a name and gather info before other news people. In some cases hackers ...or possibly co conspirators...could go onto the same websites and post confusing info or delete it before it could be investigated.
Now I imagine social media and IP providers are notified and the webpages isolated and saved for investgztion or evidence.
I think when perpetrators of anything bad aren't Gay Muslim Illegal Immigrant Black Panther OWS Black Bloc Members, silly claims of false flag events will be high.
What exactly makes him a white supremacist? A 9/11 tattoo?
According to sources in the U.S. Army, Page enlisted in April 1992 and given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He served at Fort Bliss, Texas, in the psychological operations unit in 1994, and was last stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, attached to the psychological operations unit. The details of his discharge were not immediately clear.
Many people do not use Facebook, Myspace, or twitter.
Lack of information on this man would be alarming. People do not usually go out and murder wantonly.
Tea Party did it.
Nothing more to see here..... Sarc
Waiting for update from Brian Ross.
Maybe this ex-army guy decided to go GIJOE on the temple, because he kept hearing everyone say, “Hi. I’m Sikh of that Temple right there.”
“since Wisconsin now allows CCW”
You can bet that the gun grabbers want the shooter to be a new CCW holder in order to fit their agenda.
Obama’s Reichstag Fire? Oklahoma City Bombing?
At last!
He fits Janet Napolitano’s profile of the perfect terrorist suspect - white, middle aged, male, gun-owning, veteran
All that awaits to be seen is that he attended a Christian church, had a “Don’t Tread on Me” tattoo, has a Romney bumper sticker, voted for Paul Ryan and Scott Walker in last election, and was id’d at a Tea Party rally
Let the apologies for “America” begin as obama pledges we can “do better”
How long before this is blamed on Paul Ryan (it was in his district, the radical GOP conservatives, and “incendiary rhetoric” about lower taxes and budget cutting??
In 3....2....1...
We know the motive. It’s the same as the motive in the Aurora shooting, in the Ft. Hood shooting, and in most other violent crimes - pure evil. We aren’t going to learn anything helpful by analyzing evil; all we can do is prepare for it, stay armed, and oppose evil whenever it arises.
Pys ops and he was nuts?
Interesting how one mass killing is the act of a deranged lunatic, the other is an act of Domestic Terrorism... just who the hell is in charge of classifying mass murderer’s anyway... is one act of mass murder less terrible than the next. Just what the hell is the definition of a Domestic Terrorist anyway?...
White person.
” Sources say Page was born in November of 1971 and served in the Army from April 1992 through October 1998, out of Milwaukee.
He reportedly served a Hawk missile system repairman, then became a psychological operations specialist.
Kaleka said the 6-foot-tall bald white man - who worshippers said they had never before seen at the temple - seemed like he had a purpose and knew where he was going.”
ABC News
Obama/Holder Dept. of Just Us: “Hot damn! We can say he’s a terrorist white man!”
Friday, December 9th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Obama Administration – Fort Hood shootings ‘Workplace Violence’ By Andrew Zarowny
The Obama administration and some Pentagon officials came under fire during Congressional hearings this week over the Fort Hood shooting in 2009 and it being a case of ′workplace violence′ rather than domestic terrorism. A report released by the House Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday by Rep.
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=9487
I think you’re right. There are many more sources of potential information now that need to be preserved and not contaminated. Especially with regard to potential accomplices or co-conspirators. There is no need to rush, the public curiosity will be satisfied soon enough.
News conference at 10AM.
” Both had connections with Gumment agencies.”
Spelling correction? It is “gubmint”
On a more serious note,
The media and politicians will try to use this situation (or any other) to their own maximum benefit. That is a fact. Which means they will lie. We know this.
Our best way to understand these incidents is to remember the roots of the problem.
Human beings can become frustrated. They will then resort to outlandish behavior. They resort to murder, which does not solve any problems. Not all do this, but human behavior fits a bell curse. There are wackos on both sides.
The root of the problem is the frustration. We all are dealing with it. We are watching our leaders tell us we must paint ourselves green and line up for the chopping block to appease the Gods of the Sky.
The politicians know that the public is unhappy. They know exactly why. So... the public is kept busy being frustrated, and directed to take it out on someone else who ISN’T LIKE THEM. The policy of the current leadership of this country is to DISCRIMINATE between sex, race, gender, skin color, religion, intelligence, income, tax declaration, political party, language, age, and health and use that information to keep the PUBLIC DIVIDED.
Meantime, all the undeveloped land and natural resources are being federalized (absorbed) so that the parasites (political ruling elite) can suck more blood.
While they are busy fighting for a ‘fresh’ hole to stab, the commies and muzzies are planning a mutual ‘government’ of the Western Hemisphere. Probably announce it to us on Dec 21, 2012. I Wonder who our new Western Supreme Ruler is ?
Maybe the shooting wasn't his idea. It may have been pre-programing.
The Fort Hood shooter was a military psychologist.
The Dark Night shooter, a real nut job, says he doesn't remember anything. (He studied neuroscience on government grants)
Strange coincidence. All 3 have connections to psychology departments.
Indeed, an unusual coincidence for homicidal mo-fo's to be nutjobs.
Yes. Seems rather odd...
More on the Sikh Temple shooter
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More on the Sikh Temple shooter
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Another strange coincidence. Not only were all three connected to a psychology department - All three had government funding.
Spooky.
Don’t forget, sometime back, this administration called us vets and active duty military terrorists. Only muslims who destroyed our World Trade Center are not terrorists, or any other muslim who guns down 13 soldiers and wounds 36 others at Ft Hood are NOT terrorists.
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Has anyone heard what kind of firearm/s was used.
Has anyone heard what kind of firearm/s was used?
Conservative Charlie Sykes in Milwaukee will be talking about this incident now:
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See post 21, Also most of us here on FR would be so classified according the Dyke at the head of HS.
Sorry for the loss to the community of, probably some good folks.
I saw somewhere yesterday evening that Michelle Bachmann is reportedly behind this. As “hairy reed” would say, “from a reliable source that I won’t reveal”. Did anybody notice in the article that he “sprayed” bullets? The old fire hose analogy again. And where are jessie and uncle al on this. Why hasn’t uncle obie weighed in yet? No news on the golf course? No doubt we’ll hear from him. Anybody hear what type of weapon he used? Evil assault rifle? Handgun? Shotgun? Just wondering. Brian Ross? Now that’s good.
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Amen brother. I’m literally flabbergasted on how many so-called freepers actually believe this is some wide-ranging conspiracy. This country has nuts. Nuts who want to kill large groups of people. It happens. We have muslim nuts, and we have white nuts. We have black and hispanic nuts too. They come in all flavors. Sometimes, it just is what it is.
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Ban on assault weapons faces big questions
13 hours ago • By Christopher Wills Associated Press
SPRINGFIELD | Gov. Pat Quinn has taken a dramatic and headline-grabbing step in proposing a ban on assault-style weapons after the horrifying massacre of movie fans at a Colorado theater. But his proposal faces plenty of big hurdles as well as questions about whether it would really do much to reduce crime.
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Q: What is Quinn proposing?
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Q: How often are assault weapons used in crimes?
A: Not very. When the national ban was imposed, experts believed assault weapons accounted for between 2 percent and 8 percent of all gun crimes....
Authorities search for motive in deadly shooting at Wisconsin Sikh temple
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The motive was THE GUY WAS FREAKKIN INSANE!
If that is the same guy that did the shooting, then the media is going to have a field day with this, and the gun-grabbers in congress will use his gun-rights support as an excuse to attack the 2nd. The comments at Huffpo are reflective of what most of us would say.
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